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rms2
07-26-2015, 10:41 PM
I noticed the poll asking about the preference for a Pan-Slavic subforum, so I thought it might be a good idea to suggest such a forum for the Celtic regions of Bretagne (Brittany), Cornwall, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Or you could have separate subforums for each of them.

Anyway, it won't kill me if you don't do it, but it would be nice. :)

MikeWhalen
07-26-2015, 10:48 PM
sounds good to me

Mike

Krefter
07-26-2015, 10:49 PM
I noticed the poll asking about the preference for a Pan-Slavic subforum, so I thought it might be a good idea to suggest such a forum for the Celtic regions of Bretagne (Brittany), Cornwall, Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. Or you could have separate subforums for each of them.

Anyway, it won't kill me if you don't do it, but it would be nice. :)

What about Gauls, Iberian Celts, and what not? If you're talking about Celts before the Roman empire they should be included. If not shouldn't it just be be called Pan-Insular Celtic subforum or something?

rms2
07-26-2015, 11:10 PM
What about Gauls, Iberian Celts, and what not? If you're talking about Celts before the Roman empire they should be included. If not shouldn't it just be be called Pan-Insular Celtic subforum or something?

I was thinking in terms of regions and nations that are regularly and ordinarily identified as Celtic and/or preserve a Celtic language. Otherwise, it seems to me, one opens a huge can of worms, which would encompass a lot of territory, since many nations have a claim on at least a partial Celtic heritage.

DMXX
07-27-2015, 01:09 AM
Thank you for the suggestion rms2. I personally like the idea.

I'll forward the thought to the team and will get back to our regulars soon.

alan
07-27-2015, 03:20 AM
probably the rule should be that you have geneaological time certain or strongly suspected ancestors who lived in a country where records show a Celtic language was being spoken when an ancestor lived there.

Krefter
07-27-2015, 03:39 AM
probably the rule should be that you have geneaological time certain or strongly suspected ancestors who lived in a country where records show a Celtic language was being spoken when an ancestor lived there.

I'd say people who are from the countries, or are like 100% from those countries.

Jean M
07-27-2015, 04:07 AM
I noticed the poll asking about the preference for a Pan-Slavic subforum, so I thought it might be a good idea to suggest such a forum for the Celtic regions

I thought the idea of the Pan-Slavic forum was for people to post in a Slavic language. I suppose we have some people here who speak Welsh, Breton or Gaelic, but Celtic-speakers today are bilingual in French or English with very few exceptions. Naturally I'm all in favour of promoting the surviving Celtic languages (though I don't speak one myself). But I wonder if that was what you had in mind?

Helgenes50
07-27-2015, 07:48 AM
What is sure, on this forum, if the Celtic-speakers are not bilingual, impossible for them to understand what is written

rms2
07-27-2015, 12:55 PM
I thought the idea of the Pan-Slavic forum was for people to post in a Slavic language. I suppose we have some people here who speak Welsh, Breton or Gaelic, but Celtic-speakers today are bilingual in French or English with very few exceptions. Naturally I'm all in favour of promoting the surviving Celtic languages (though I don't speak one myself). But I wonder if that was what you had in mind?

Honestly, that was not what I had in mind, since I cannot read or speak any of the Celtic languages, apart from a mere smattering. I was thinking more of subforums limited by nation or geographic region but not by genetic subcategory. In other words, in the Wales subforum, the discussion would be about Welsh genetics and all that goes with it, whether that involves y-dna, mtDNA, or autosomal dna, or all three.

Krefter
07-27-2015, 07:14 PM
What is sure, on this forum, if the Celtic-speakers are not bilingual, impossible for them to understand what is written

There are too few for that to be a problem.

MJost
07-27-2015, 07:39 PM
Don't leave out the Isle of Man!

"The Manx (Manx: Ny Manninee) are an ethnic group originating from the Isle of Man in the Irish Sea in northern Europe. They are primarily a Celtic people, though with significant Norse and English influences."

"Manx is a Celtic language spoken on the Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin). It is closely related to the Irish of Ulster and Scottish Gaelic of Galloway and was brought to the Isle of Man by settlers from those areas during the 5th century AD."

MJost

Helgenes50
07-27-2015, 07:54 PM
There are too few for that to be a problem.

I think so, too. Unfortunately !

I don' t know any Celtic-speaker( in Brittany) who is not bilingual, but French-speakers who don't know a second language are legion

rms2
07-28-2015, 01:39 AM
Don't leave out the Isle of Man!

"The Manx (Manx: Ny Manninee) are an ethnic group originating from the Isle of Man in the Irish Sea in northern Europe. They are primarily a Celtic people, though with significant Norse and English influences."

"Manx is a Celtic language spoken on the Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin). It is closely related to the Irish of Ulster and Scottish Gaelic of Galloway and was brought to the Isle of Man by settlers from those areas during the 5th century AD."

MJost

Thanks for the reminder!


https://youtu.be/llP8kJ_XhW8

MJost
07-28-2015, 03:56 AM
5330https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agN05xQM-w

My wife and I were there last summer for five days stayed in Douglas. My lineage, Watterson's, do have a heavy liking to the south side of the Isle and the surname is recorded in the IOM Key records back to 1417 AD.

I believe this line came to the island 1500 years ago as variety 5494-5561-5496-5521-5539-A1A splitting off with the Irish
5494-5561-5496-5521-A1 guys. The A1A has two legs, one Scot and the other Manx.

MJost




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Mullins


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Mann


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Mullen


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Campbell


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Wigand


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Watterson


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Ross


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Watterson


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Curry


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Watterson


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Killey



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Curry


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Cook


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Stewart


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Dewane


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Mitchell


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Mitchell


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Cauley


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Harley


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Appleby


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Byrne

David Mc
07-28-2015, 05:05 AM
5330https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8agN05xQM-w

My wife and I were there last summer for five days stayed in Douglas. My lineage, Watterson's, do have a heavy liking to the south side of the Isle and the surname is recorded in the IOM Key records back to 1417 AD.

I believe this line came to the island 1500 years ago as variety 5494-5561-5496-5521-5539-A1A splitting off with the Irish

My family and I were there last August, too, but only briefly.

BalkanKiwi
07-28-2015, 06:46 AM
I should mention this, which is the description of the International Area:

Forum area for the discussion of genetics and anthropology topics in both English and languages specific to each domain.

I think originally it was the specific language for each section but it looks like its been changed to include English. My interpretation now is anything about each area can be discussed in the native language/s or English.

rms2
08-01-2015, 01:22 AM
What I had in mind really was a place to talk about the genetics and related topics (archaeology, etc.) of the countries or regions that are commonly identified as Celtic, especially, in my case, Wales.