haleaton
08-04-2015, 08:41 PM
According to just checking The Genographic Project 705,343 people have taken the test, currently $199.95 in a Geno 2.0 “Next Generation” version. I don’t know what percentage of these is male.
According to their website, you can still transfer your Geno results to FTDNA for free, which will put you on the Haplotree and be eligible to order the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test with enough information on your Y Haplogroup to make an informed choice to purchase it or not. FTDNA has no subscription fee.
For example, Geno 2.0 told me I am L2 but nothing lower which based our analysis of what is actually in the test would make such a person and ideal candidate to recruit, if they had some interest in learning more about their deep male ancestry and being part of discovering the hidden history of humanity inside our chemistry. I am sure FTDNA knows this and will work with The Genographic Project to develop marketing strategy which should be huge for them.
At one time you could post messages to other matches on The Genographic Project but that seems to have gone away.
23andMe also has a similar number of customers who pay $99 and, at least in my case, was able to tell I am L2. There is no transfer process to FTDNA, so they would have to take at least a FTDNA Y-STR 11 test for $49 (check this), though they don’t make it easy on their webpage to find anything but the $169 dollar 37 STR test. Then you are eligible to take the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test based on an informed decision
Ancestry got out of the Y-DNA business, I understand, but you can transfer you STR results to FTDNA for $19, which I assume put you on the Haplotree and eligible to take the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test. I never test Y at Ancestry so do not know if they predicted Y Haplogroup, but I would guess once your results are transferred FTDNA would then run a Haplogroup prediction. Does anybody know how many Y DNA tests Ancestry performed?
I would guess then that there are at least a few hundred thousand R1b men who potentially have an interest in the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test. The key to making this fun for them is for the deeper testers to provide support on what the data means and then what they might want to do for further testing.
This is apart from rest of humanity who have never tested—which may be a much harder sell based just on learning your Y Haplogroup.
Is there any flaw in this?
For U152 & Subclades, based on a detailed analysis of what is actually in the test, these folks would be excellent candidates for the R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test.
For the other major R1b groups is this also the case?
I created this separate thread in R1b so it can be about getting new testers rather than deeper clade issues and a test that is available now and also not so much about whether Y DNA testing has any merit at all, though we will probably have to go there . . . If you got this far, this post was TL;DR from the get go you should have known ;)
According to their website, you can still transfer your Geno results to FTDNA for free, which will put you on the Haplotree and be eligible to order the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test with enough information on your Y Haplogroup to make an informed choice to purchase it or not. FTDNA has no subscription fee.
For example, Geno 2.0 told me I am L2 but nothing lower which based our analysis of what is actually in the test would make such a person and ideal candidate to recruit, if they had some interest in learning more about their deep male ancestry and being part of discovering the hidden history of humanity inside our chemistry. I am sure FTDNA knows this and will work with The Genographic Project to develop marketing strategy which should be huge for them.
At one time you could post messages to other matches on The Genographic Project but that seems to have gone away.
23andMe also has a similar number of customers who pay $99 and, at least in my case, was able to tell I am L2. There is no transfer process to FTDNA, so they would have to take at least a FTDNA Y-STR 11 test for $49 (check this), though they don’t make it easy on their webpage to find anything but the $169 dollar 37 STR test. Then you are eligible to take the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test based on an informed decision
Ancestry got out of the Y-DNA business, I understand, but you can transfer you STR results to FTDNA for $19, which I assume put you on the Haplotree and eligible to take the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test. I never test Y at Ancestry so do not know if they predicted Y Haplogroup, but I would guess once your results are transferred FTDNA would then run a Haplogroup prediction. Does anybody know how many Y DNA tests Ancestry performed?
I would guess then that there are at least a few hundred thousand R1b men who potentially have an interest in the $79 R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test. The key to making this fun for them is for the deeper testers to provide support on what the data means and then what they might want to do for further testing.
This is apart from rest of humanity who have never tested—which may be a much harder sell based just on learning your Y Haplogroup.
Is there any flaw in this?
For U152 & Subclades, based on a detailed analysis of what is actually in the test, these folks would be excellent candidates for the R1b-M343 Backbone SNP Pack test.
For the other major R1b groups is this also the case?
I created this separate thread in R1b so it can be about getting new testers rather than deeper clade issues and a test that is available now and also not so much about whether Y DNA testing has any merit at all, though we will probably have to go there . . . If you got this far, this post was TL;DR from the get go you should have known ;)