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Scarlet Ibis
12-02-2012, 06:55 PM
The only one I could get to work, without getting an internal server error, is the one when I run my results under the Magnus Ducatus Lituaniae Project World-22 calculator.



Using 1 population approximation:
1 Colville @ 29.149
2 Karakalpak @ 30.193
3 Kazakh @ 30.216
4 Uygur @ 30.461
5 Tatar_Lithuania @ 30.945
6 Kyrgyz @ 33.803
7 Hazara @ 36.662
8 Altaic @ 36.861
9 Bashkir @ 37.400
10 Hakas @ 37.530


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Welsh @ 2.080
2 50% Japanese +50% Norwegian_V @ 2.275
3 50% CEU +50% Japanese @ 2.413
4 50% CEU_V +50% Japanese @ 2.607
5 50% British +50% Japanese @ 2.895
6 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 2.980
7 50% German_V +50% Japanese @ 3.406
8 50% Japanese +50% Swedish @ 3.580
9 50% Austrian +50% Japanese @ 3.826
10 50% Tu +50% Welsh @ 3.939



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian_V +25% Welsh @ 1.649
2 50% Japanese +25% Orcadian +25% Swedish @ 1.938
3 50% Japanese +25% Welsh +25% Welsh @ 2.080
4 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian_V +25% Orcadian @ 2.187
5 50% Japanese +25% Swedish +25% Welsh @ 2.208
6 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian_V +25% Norwegian_V @ 2.275
7 50% Japanese +25% Orcadian +25% Welsh @ 2.324
8 50% Japanese +25% Orcadian +25% Swedish_V @ 2.335
9 50% CEU +25% Japanese +25% Japanese @ 2.413
10 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian_V +25% Swedish @ 2.455


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.568
2 Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V + Welsh @ 1.649
3 German_V + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.765
4 Austrian + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.837
5 British + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish @ 1.859
6 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.867
7 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish @ 1.875
8 CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 1.906
9 Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian + Swedish @ 1.938
10 British + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.939
11 CEU + CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese @ 1.945
12 British + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish_V @ 1.950
13 German-South + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish_V @ 1.984
14 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Welsh @ 2.026
15 German-North + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.068
16 Japanese + Japanese + Welsh + Welsh @ 2.080
17 German + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.080
18 Han-Beijing + Norwegian_V + Welsh + Xibo @ 2.102
19 British + CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese @ 2.103
20 German_V + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.111

Scarlet Ibis
12-02-2012, 07:06 PM
My Father on the Magnus Ducatus World-22:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 CEU_V @ 1.480
2 German_V @ 3.600
3 Austrian @ 4.420
4 Welsh @ 4.501
5 Swedish @ 5.512
6 German-North @ 5.848
7 CEU @ 5.939
8 Norwegian_V @ 6.107
9 Hungarian @ 6.904
10 British @ 6.999


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% CEU_V +50% CEU_V @ 1.480
2 50% CEU +50% German-North @ 2.031
3 50% Austrian +50% Norwegian_V @ 2.053
4 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 2.177
5 50% German-South +50% Swedish_V @ 2.219
6 50% British +50% German @ 2.281
7 50% CEU +50% Slovenian @ 2.322
8 50% Orcadian +50% Slovenian @ 2.334
9 50% German_V +50% Norwegian_V @ 2.404
10 50% CEU_V +50% German_V @ 2.405


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Polish_V +25% Swedish_V @ 0.989
2 50% German-North +25% Provancestralal +25% Swedish_V @ 1.135
3 50% French +25% Polish +25% Swedish_V @ 1.191
4 50% CEU_V +25% German-South +25% Swedish_V @ 1.217
5 50% British +25% Estonian +25% Provancestralal @ 1.220
6 50% British +25% Croatian_V +25% Swedish @ 1.226
7 50% German-North +25% Swedish_V +25% Swiss @ 1.231
8 50% French +25% Swedish_V +25% Ukrainian-East @ 1.265
9 50% CEU +25% Croatian_V +25% Swedish @ 1.290
10 50% French +25% Russian_cossack +25% Swedish_V @ 1.308


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Croatian + French + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 0.907
2 Croatian_V + German-South + Orcadian + Swedish_V @ 0.936
3 French + French + Polish_V + Swedish_V @ 0.989
4 French + Slovenian + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.000
5 German-South + Norwegian_V + Slovenian + Swedish @ 1.080
6 French + Slovenian + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 1.084
7 Norwegian_V + Orcadian + Polish_V + Swiss @ 1.117
8 Orcadian + Serbian + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.123
9 British + CEU + Croatian_V + Swedish @ 1.132
10 German-North + German-North + Provancestralal + Swedish_V @ 1.135
11 Czech + Provancestralal + Swedish + Swedish_V @ 1.137
12 Croatian_V + French + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.143
13 CEU + Estonian + French + French @ 1.149
14 German-North + Swedish + Swedish + Swiss @ 1.155
15 CEU_V + Estonian + French + French @ 1.173
16 Estonian + French + German-South + Orcadian @ 1.176
17 British + CEU_V + Croatian_V + Norwegian_V @ 1.187
18 French + French + Polish + Swedish_V @ 1.191
19 CEU + Croatian_V + Orcadian + Swedish @ 1.193
20 CEU + CEU_V + Croatian_V + Orcadian @ 1.211

Scarlet Ibis
12-02-2012, 07:16 PM
My Mother on MDLP World-22

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Japanese @ 2.367
2 Tu @ 7.716
3 Naxi @ 9.953
4 Yizu @ 12.642
5 Han-Beijing @ 13.233
6 Indian-East @ 14.790
7 Xibo @ 16.667
8 Indian_East @ 18.006
9 Han @ 18.320
10 Tujia @ 21.623


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Japanese @ 2.367
2 50% Daur +50% She @ 3.042
3 50% Han-Beijing +50% Xibo @ 3.137
4 50% Daur +50% Miaozu @ 3.147
5 50% Han +50% Xibo @ 3.578
6 50% Hezhen +50% Miaozu @ 3.797
7 50% Chinese-South +50% Daur @ 3.864
8 50% Chinese-South +50% Hezhen @ 3.972
9 50% Hezhen +50% She @ 3.979
10 50% Japanese +50% Naxi @ 4.136


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% Tujia +25% Xibo @ 1.424
2 50% Japanese +25% Japanese +25% Naxi @ 1.535
3 50% Han-Beijing +25% Hezhen +25% Japanese @ 1.660
4 50% Han-Beijing +25% Japanese +25% Mongola @ 1.789
5 50% Japanese +25% Miaozu +25% Mongola @ 1.898
6 50% Japanese +25% Mongola +25% Tujia @ 2.015
7 50% Japanese +25% Japanese +25% Yizu @ 2.029
8 50% Japanese +25% Mongola +25% She @ 2.083
9 50% Han +25% Hezhen +25% Japanese @ 2.279
10 50% Japanese +25% Japanese +25% Japanese @ 2.367


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Daur + Han + Han-Beijing + Japanese @ 1.051
2 Daur + Han-Beijing + Japanese + Tujia @ 1.063
3 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + Lahu + Tujia @ 1.089
4 East-Siberean + Dai + Lahu + Tujia @ 1.089
5 East-Siberean + Dai + Dai + Tujia @ 1.139
6 East-Siberean + Dai + She + She @ 1.139
7 East-Siberean + Lahu + Lahu + Tujia @ 1.193
8 East-Siberean + Chinese-South + Lahu + Lahu @ 1.214
9 East-Siberean + Lahu + She + She @ 1.225
10 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + Dai + Tujia @ 1.277
11 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + East-South-Asian + Han @ 1.315
12 East-Siberean + Chinese-South + Dai + Lahu @ 1.324
13 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + Miaozu + She @ 1.330
14 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + Dai + Han @ 1.341
15 East-Siberean + Dai + Miaozu + She @ 1.356
16 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + She + She @ 1.379
17 East-Siberean + East-South-Asian + Han + Lahu @ 1.386
18 East-Siberean + Lahu + Miaozu + She @ 1.404
19 Daur + Japanese + Japanese + She @ 1.423
20 Japanese + Japanese + Tujia + Xibo @ 1.424

Scarlet Ibis
12-04-2012, 06:49 AM
Got word that at least the Jtest, and Eutest calculators are now working. I'm only including up to 2 populations, for the sake of brevity.



Jtest

My Dad's:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 DK @ 3.538
2 Orcadian @ 4.447
3 NL @ 4.464
4 NO @ 4.522
5 English @ 4.751
6 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.604
7 Cornish @ 5.725
8 IE @ 5.934
9 West_&_Central_German @ 6.255
10 Scottish @ 6.908


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +50% NO @ 1.490
2 50% Cornish +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 1.941
3 50% English +50% NO @ 2.181
4 50% NO +50% Orcadian @ 2.195
5 50% Orcadian +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.488
6 50% DK +50% Orcadian @ 2.584
7 50% IE +50% NO @ 2.680
8 50% NL +50% NO @ 2.861
9 50% IE +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.933
10 50% Cornish +50% DK @ 3.025




My Mom's:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KR @ 0.000
2 Japanese @ 3.732
3 Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.803
4 Chinese @ 18.100
5 KZ @ 61.194
6 Chukchi @ 86.874
7 Koryak @ 89.001
8 RO @ 90.907
9 Udmurt @ 91.026
10 Serbian @ 91.269


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% KR +50% KR @ 0.000
2 50% Japanese +50% KR @ 2.301
3 50% Japanese +50% Japanese @ 3.732
4 50% Japanese +50% Northern_Han_Chinese @ 4.068
5 50% KR +50% Northern_Han_Chinese @ 5.466
6 50% Chinese +50% Japanese @ 7.208
7 50% Chinese +50% KR @ 8.614
8 50% Northern_Han_Chinese +50% Northern_Han_Chinese @ 11.803
9 50% Chinese +50% Northern_Han_Chinese @ 14.951
10 50% Chinese +50% Chinese @ 18.100



Mine:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KZ @ 32.013
2 AT @ 45.048
3 HU @ 45.058
4 Serbian @ 46.053
5 West_&_Central_German @ 46.117
6 Japanese @ 46.316
7 NL @ 46.416
8 FR @ 46.442
9 RO @ 46.444
10 Cornish @ 46.747


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Scottish @ 4.248
2 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 4.252
3 50% Cornish +50% Japanese @ 4.385
4 50% IE +50% Japanese @ 4.692
5 50% KR +50% Orcadian @ 4.848
6 50% KR +50% Scottish @ 4.850
7 50% DK +50% Japanese @ 4.943
8 50% Cornish +50% KR @ 4.971
9 50% IE +50% KR @ 5.241
10 50% Japanese +50% NL @ 5.292









EUtest

My Dad's:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 DK @ 4.262
2 NO @ 4.323
3 Orcadian @ 4.860
4 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.392
5 NL @ 5.573
6 IE @ 5.644
7 English @ 5.890
8 Cornish @ 6.469
9 Scottish @ 7.068
10 West_&_Central_German @ 7.233


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.119
2 50% NO +50% Orcadian @ 2.427
3 50% IE +50% NO @ 2.475
4 50% Cornish +50% NO @ 2.520
5 50% Cornish +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.547
6 50% Orcadian +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.708
7 50% Scottish +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 2.988
8 50% NO +50% Scottish @ 3.024
9 50% English +50% NO @ 3.322
10 50% DK +50% IE @ 3.390




My Mom's:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KR @ 0.000
2 Japanese @ 3.732
3 North_Han_Chinese @ 11.803
4 Chinese @ 18.362
5 KZ @ 61.253
6 Chukchi @ 86.874
7 Koryak @ 89.001
8 Udmurt @ 91.058
9 RO @ 91.459
10 Komi @ 91.615


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% KR +50% KR @ 0.000
2 50% Japanese +50% KR @ 2.301
3 50% Japanese +50% Japanese @ 3.732
4 50% Japanese +50% North_Han_Chinese @ 4.068
5 50% KR +50% North_Han_Chinese @ 5.466
6 50% Chinese +50% Japanese @ 7.339
7 50% Chinese +50% KR @ 8.746
8 50% North_Han_Chinese +50% North_Han_Chinese @ 11.803
9 50% Chinese +50% North_Han_Chinese @ 15.082
10 50% Chinese +50% Chinese @ 18.362





Mine:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KZ @ 32.155
2 HU @ 45.147
3 AT @ 45.183
4 Serbian @ 46.111
5 West_&_Central_German @ 46.153
6 NL @ 46.494
7 Japanese @ 46.499
8 North_Swedish @ 46.528
9 FR @ 46.640
10 RO @ 46.666


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +50% Japanese @ 4.291
2 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 4.342
3 50% Japanese +50% Scottish @ 4.406
4 50% IE +50% Japanese @ 4.607
5 50% Cornish +50% KR @ 4.882
6 50% KR +50% Orcadian @ 4.921
7 50% KR +50% Scottish @ 4.982
8 50% DK +50% Japanese @ 5.096
9 50% Japanese +50% NL @ 5.125
10 50% IE +50% KR @ 5.160

AJL
12-20-2012, 03:39 AM
There's now an Oracle-X as well.

Scarlet Ibis
12-20-2012, 04:37 AM
There's now an Oracle-X as well.

Yeah, I saw it, but I've been holding off on posting about it, since it's still under development. So far, the results I'm getting are too absurd. The random results remind me of when the Oracle-4 calculators were still under development.

DMXX
12-20-2012, 01:32 PM
My current top 5 Oracle-4 using my MDLP results. I saw fit to use this as the project does not have an Iranian reference sample, giving me an idea of where I'd lie relative to other populations;



1 Brahui + Lebanese + Tatar_Crim + Turk @ 2.794
2 Brahui + Druze + Tatar_Crim + Turk @ 2.826
3 Jew-Uzbekistan + Lebanese + Pashtun + Tatar_Crim @ 2.841
4 Druze + Jew-Uzbekistan + Pashtun + Tatar_Crim @ 2.843
5 Jew_Kurd + Lebanese + Pashtun + Tatar_Crim @ 2.906


We're essentially looking at a mix of 50% West Asian, 25% South-Central Asian and 25% North Caucasian/Steppe Turkish. Will post the Oracle-X once the results are more coherent.

[Edit]: Oracle-4 on Harappa;


1 azerbaijan-jew + iranian + kurd + tajik @ 1.838
2 iranian + iraq-jew + kurd + tajik @ 1.921
3 assyrian + iranian + kurd + tajik @ 1.922
4 balochi + georgia-jew + turk + turk-istanbul @ 1.975
5 azerbaijan-jew + iranian + kurd + tajik @ 1.983


On Eurogenes EUtest;



1 Balochi + Druze + Lezgin + Mandean @ 3.691
2 Brahui + Druze + Lezgin + Mandean @ 3.699
3 Brahui + Druze + IQ + Lezgin @ 3.841
4 Balochi + Druze + IR + TR @ 3.841
5 Balochi + Druze + IQ + Lezgin @ 3.881


On Dodecad K12b;



1 Georgia_Jews + Iranian + Tajiks + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 1.966
2 Georgia_Jews + Iranians + Tajiks + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.007
3 Armenians_15 + Iranians + Tajiks + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.033
4 Azerbaijan_Jews + Iranian + Tajiks + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.141
5 Iranian + Tajiks + Uzbekistan_Jews + Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2.187


Even when Iranians and Kurds are factored there still appears to be a shift towards the east.

AJL
12-20-2012, 05:38 PM
Yeah, I saw it, but I've been holding off on posting about it, since it's still under development. So far, the results I'm getting are too absurd. The random results remind me of when the Oracle-4 calculators were still under development.

Yes, everyone seems a little too Udmurt...

Mine with Oracle-4:

MDLP World-22


1 Estonian + Jew_Kurd + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.721
2 Estonian + Jew-Iran + Sardinian + Swiss @ 1.842
3 Druze + Estonian + Romania + Sardinian @ 1.853
4 Estonian + Jew_Georgia + Romania + Sardinian @ 1.869
5 Estonian + Italian_North + Jew_Kurd + Sardinian @ 1.938


Harappa-World


1 bulgarian + italian + morocco-jew + orcadian @ 1.455
2 french + n-european + sephardic-jew + tuscan @ 1.521
3 bulgarian + n-european + sephardic-jew + spaniard @ 1.542
4 french + iraq-jew + lithuanian + sardinian @ 1.544
5 bulgarian + french + french + morocco-jew @ 1.596


Eurogenes EUtest


1 French_Basque + NO + Samaritan + Serbian @ 1.717
2 DK + French_Basque + Samaritan + Serbian @ 1.734
3 French_Basque + Samaritan + Serbian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 1.847
4 AT + ES + Samaritan + Scottish @ 2.307
5 AT + French_Basque + Samaritan + West_&_Central_German @ 2.374


Eurogenes Jtest


1 AJ + AJ + French_Basque + North_Swedish @ 2.879
2 AJ + AJ + French_Basque + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.387
3 AJ + AJ + FR + Scottish @ 3.544
4 AJ + AJ + French_Basque + NO @ 3.555
5 AJ + AJ + French_Basque + South_Finnish @ 3.567


Dodecad K12b


1 Baleares + Cataluna + Druze + Russian @ 1.176
2 Cataluna + Druze + Galicia + Russian_B @ 1.225
3 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + French + Swedish @ 1.249
4 Cataluna + Druze + Galicia + Russian @ 1.263
5 German + Lebanese + Russian + Sardinian @ 1.276

J Man
12-21-2012, 04:36 AM
The Oracle 4 feature seems to be pretty interesting and actually fairly accurate given what I know of my own ancestry. As far as I know I am around 25% Italian, 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British. Here are my results below on Pct. Calc. Option 2.

MDLP World-22:

1 British + Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian @ 1.597
2 British + British + Finnish-South + Greek_Center @ 1.683
3 Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 1.716
4 CEU + Finnish-South + Greek_Center + Orcadian @ 1.741
5 British + Finnish-South + Greek_East + Orcadian @ 1.743

Eurogenes Jtest:

1 DK + DK + East_Finnish + GR @ 4.464
2 DK + DK + East_Russian + GR @ 4.618
3 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NO @ 4.746
4 DK + DK + GR + North_Russian @ 4.758
5 DK + DK + East_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.797

Eurogenes EUtest:

1 DK + DK + East_Finnish + GR @ 3.990
2 DK + DK + East_Russian + GR @ 4.255
3 DK + East_Finnish + GR + NO @ 4.260
4 DK + DK + East_Russian + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.376
5 DK + DK + GR + North_Russian @ 4.432

Dodecad K12b:

1 Argyll + Dutch + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.618
2 Argyll + Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Russian @ 1.645
3 Argyll + Argyll + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.681
4 Dutch + Orkney + Russian + S_Italian_Sicilian @ 1.748
5 Argyll + Ashkenazy_Jews + Orcadian + Russian @ 1.751

Harappa-World:

1 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.869
2 ashkenazy-jew + finnish + orcadian + utahn-white @ 1.967
3 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + utahn-white @ 1.978
4 lithuanian + morocco-jew + orcadian + russian @ 1.988
5 ashkenazy-jew + british + finnish + orcadian @ 2.046

PureEvil
01-07-2013, 05:45 AM
HarappaWorld:

1 french + french + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.076
2 french + french + n-european + utahn-white @ 2.103
3 basque + belorussian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.107
4 british + british + french + hungarian @ 2.108
5 british + french + romany + utahn-white @ 2.160
6 belorussian + romany + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.165
7 belorussian + romany + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.177
8 basque + british + romany + russian @ 2.178
9 basque + orcadian + romany + russian @ 2.187
10 basque + belorussian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.218
11 basque + romany + russian + utahn-white @ 2.221
12 british + romany + russian + spain-basc @ 2.228
13 basque + romany + russian + utahn-white @ 2.241
14 italian + orcadian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.248
15 basque + belorussian + n-european + romany @ 2.250
16 french + french + n-european + n-european @ 2.261
17 french + utahn-white + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.264
18 italian + n-european + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.271
19 french + orcadian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.274
20 orcadian + romany + russian + spain-basc @ 2.294

MDLP World-22:

1 CEU + German + Romania + Swedish @ 1.604
2 British + German + Romania + Swedish @ 1.633
3 German-North + German_V + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.856
4 British + German_V + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.863
5 British + Gagauz + German + Swedish @ 1.877
6 CEU_V + German + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.888
7 German + German + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 1.890
8 CEU + German_V + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.892
9 German_V + Romania + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.895
10 CEU + German + German-North + Romania @ 1.901
11 CEU + Gagauz + German + Swedish @ 1.904
12 CEU_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish @ 1.912
13 German_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.913
14 German + German_V + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.920
15 German + Orcadian + Romania + Swedish @ 1.925
16 Hungarian + Norwegian_V + Romania + Swedish @ 1.942
17 British + German + German-North + Romania @ 1.943
18 British + German + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.957
19 CEU_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.967
20 CEU + Gagauz + German-North + Swedish @ 1.971

Jtest:

1 English + English + English + English @ 2.093
2 English + English + English + NL @ 2.142
3 DK + English + English + English @ 2.202
4 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.298
5 DK + English + English + NL @ 2.396
6 English + English + NL + NL @ 2.441
7 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.519
8 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 2.637
9 English + English + English + NO @ 2.665
10 Cornish + English + English + English @ 2.679
11 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 2.680
12 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 2.739
13 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 2.751
14 DK + English + NL + NL @ 2.791
15 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 2.799
16 DK + DK + English + FR @ 2.821
17 Cornish + DK + English + NL @ 2.832
18 Cornish + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.853
19 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.885
20 English + English + English + IE @ 2.899

EUtest:
1 English + English + English + English @ 1.839
2 English + English + English + NL @ 1.860
3 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 1.991
4 DK + English + English + English @ 2.050
5 English + English + NL + NL @ 2.155
6 DK + English + English + NL @ 2.231
7 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.317
8 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 2.372
9 Cornish + English + English + English @ 2.488
10 English + English + English + NO @ 2.504
11 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 2.517
12 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 2.524
13 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 2.537
14 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 2.558
15 English + English + English + IE @ 2.597
16 English + English + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 2.599
17 English + English + IE + NL @ 2.601
18 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.606
19 Cornish + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.608
20 DK + English + NL + NL @ 2.619

Dodecad V3:

1 British_Isles + French + Hungarians + Argyll @ 2.420
2 British + French + Hungarians + Argyll @ 2.459
3 French + Hungarians + Irish + Argyll @ 2.464
4 Cornwall + French + Hungarians + Argyll @ 2.478
5 Dutch + French + Argyll + Slovenian @ 2.499
6 Balkans + British + Kent + Orkney @ 2.500
7 Balkans + British_Isles + Kent + Orkney @ 2.521
8 Balkans + British + British_Isles + CEU @ 2.530
9 Balkans + British + British + Orkney @ 2.533
10 Balkans + British + British + Argyll @ 2.533
11 French + Kent + Argyll + Slovenian @ 2.539
12 Balkans + British + Kent + Orcadian @ 2.540
13 Balkans + British_Isles + British_Isles + CEU @ 2.541
14 French + Hungarians + Kent + Argyll @ 2.542
15 Balkans + British + British + CEU @ 2.543
16 Balkans + British + British_Isles + Orkney @ 2.544
17 Balkans + British + British + Orcadian @ 2.545
18 French + Mixed_Germanic + Orkney + Slovenian @ 2.546
19 Balkans + British + British_Isles + Orcadian @ 2.553
20 French + Mixed_Germanic + Argyll + Slovenian @ 2.556

History-of-Things
01-08-2013, 02:10 PM
Mine:

J-Test 4 Ancestors Oracle:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cornish @ 4.766
2 Orcadian @ 6.140
3 IE @ 6.687
4 Scottish @ 6.867
5 NL @ 7.276
6 English @ 7.722
7 West_&_Central_German @ 7.766
8 DK @ 10.413
9 FR @ 10.729
10 NO @ 11.671
78 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% FR +50% Scottish @ 4.707
2 50% Cornish +50% Cornish @ 4.766
3 50% FR +50% Orcadian @ 5.170
4 50% Cornish +50% Orcadian @ 5.183
5 50% Cornish +50% Scottish @ 5.328
6 50% FR +50% IE @ 5.366
7 50% Cornish +50% IE @ 5.414
8 50% AT +50% Scottish @ 5.423
9 50% Cornish +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.652
10 50% Cornish +50% NL @ 5.667
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.185
2 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% UA @ 3.304
3 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.311
4 50% IE +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.562
5 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% HU @ 3.701
6 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% UA @ 3.709
7 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% HU @ 3.730
8 50% English +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.743
9 50% Scottish +25% AT +25% FR @ 3.795
10 50% Cornish +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.797
64119 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 English + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.020
2 French_Basque + Orcadian + PL + Scottish @ 3.171
3 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.185
4 French_Basque + HU + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.247
5 Cornish + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.263
6 French_Basque + Scottish + Scottish + UA @ 3.304
7 French_Basque + IE + PL + Scottish @ 3.308
8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + PL @ 3.311
9 English + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.333
10 English + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.355
11 French_Basque + HU + NO + Scottish @ 3.379
12 French_Basque + NL + PL + Scottish @ 3.406
13 French_Basque + IE + Orcadian + PL @ 3.408
14 AT + French_Basque + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.413
15 English + French_Basque + Scottish + UA @ 3.417
16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Scottish + UA @ 3.441
17 Cornish + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.443
18 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.506
19 Cornish + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.529
20 French_Basque + IE + Scottish + UA @ 3.540

J-Test Oracle X

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Scottish 49.25%
2 French_Basque 16.94%
3 LIT 13.07%
4 Cornish 10.47%
5 FR 4.89%
6 AJ 2.85%
7 GE 1.01%
8 Mozabite_Berber 0.91%
9 North_Italian 0.61%
10 Somali 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Cornish 64.52%
2 LIT 9.46%
3 Scottish 9.11%
4 French_Basque 8.37%
5 ES 3.08%
6 GE 3.07%
7 Orcadian 1.10%
8 Mozabite_Berber 1.08%
9 HU 0.21%
10 AJ 0.00%

AJL
01-08-2013, 05:30 PM
Mine:

Rather similar to my mother's results, though she tends more toward Danish/Iberian mixes for some reason:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cornish @ 6.282
2 English @ 6.386
3 NL @ 6.712
4 West_&_Central_German @ 7.947
5 DK @ 8.349
6 Orcadian @ 8.534
7 IE @ 8.589
8 Scottish @ 10.211
9 FR @ 10.389
10 NO @ 10.956
78 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% DK +50% FR @ 5.095
2 50% FR +50% NO @ 5.674
3 50% Cornish +50% English @ 6.002
4 50% Cornish +50% NL @ 6.046
5 50% English +50% FR @ 6.169
6 50% Cornish +50% Cornish @ 6.282
7 50% FR +50% IE @ 6.303
8 50% FR +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.304
9 50% English +50% NL @ 6.372
10 50% FR +50% Orcadian @ 6.380
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% DK +25% English +25% ES @ 4.704
2 50% DK +25% DK +25% ES @ 4.735
3 50% DK +25% ES +25% IE @ 4.762
4 50% DK +25% Cornish +25% ES @ 4.774
5 50% DK +25% ES +25% NL @ 4.891
6 50% DK +25% ES +25% Orcadian @ 4.929
7 50% DK +25% IE +25% PT @ 4.969
8 50% English +25% DK +25% ES @ 5.002
9 50% DK +25% Cornish +25% PT @ 5.021
10 50% DK +25% DK +25% French_Basque @ 5.060
74442 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 DK + DK + English + ES @ 4.704
2 DK + DK + DK + ES @ 4.735
3 DK + DK + ES + IE @ 4.762
4 Cornish + DK + DK + ES @ 4.774
5 DK + DK + ES + NL @ 4.891
6 DK + DK + ES + Orcadian @ 4.929
7 DK + English + ES + NO @ 4.967
8 DK + DK + IE + PT @ 4.969
9 Cornish + DK + ES + NO @ 4.992
10 DK + English + English + ES @ 5.002
11 Cornish + DK + DK + PT @ 5.021
12 DK + English + ES + IE @ 5.027
13 DK + DK + DK + French_Basque @ 5.060
14 DK + ES + IE + NO @ 5.071
15 DK + DK + French_Basque + West_&_Central_German @ 5.078
16 DK + DK + FR + FR @ 5.095
17 DK + DK + ES + Scottish @ 5.104
18 DK + DK + English + PT @ 5.106
19 DK + DK + French_Basque + NL @ 5.111
20 DK + DK + ES + NO @ 5.111

In her case, the single populations are all more consistent with known ancestry than the three- and four-population splits. Most of the two-population models are pretty good. Again, I'm not sure why Danish keeps coming up, though there are several hints of a Norwegian and/or Swedish connection, and her uncommon blood type O303 does peak in Denmark.

Veridicus
01-09-2013, 04:24 AM
Does anyone know how to contact the Admin for GEDmatch? I uploaded my 23andMe data but but lost connection and was unable to get a kit #.

All cleared-up got it!

Scarlet Ibis
01-15-2013, 06:56 AM
MDLP World-22:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Welsh @ 2.201
2 50% Japanese +50% Norwegian_V @ 2.365
3 50% CEU +50% Japanese @ 2.531
4 50% CEU_V +50% Japanese @ 2.707
5 50% British +50% Japanese @ 2.974
6 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 3.033
7 50% German_V +50% Japanese @ 3.450
8 50% Japanese +50% Swedish @ 3.654
9 50% Austrian +50% Japanese @ 3.882
10 50% Tu +50% Welsh @ 4.007
38226 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian_V +25% Welsh @ 1.780
2 50% Japanese +25% CEU_V +25% Norwegian_V @ 1.885
3 50% Japanese +25% German_V +25% Norwegian_V @ 1.970
4 50% Japanese +25% British +25% Swedish @ 1.970
5 50% Japanese +25% CEU +25% Swedish @ 1.996
6 50% Japanese +25% CEU +25% Norwegian_V @ 2.001
7 50% Japanese +25% Austrian +25% Norwegian_V @ 2.062
8 50% Japanese +25% British +25% Norwegian_V @ 2.076
9 50% Japanese +25% CEU_V +25% Orcadian @ 2.088
10 50% Japanese +25% CEU +25% CEU_V @ 2.092
1877348 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V + Welsh @ 1.780
2 CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.885
3 German_V + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 1.970
4 British + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish @ 1.970
5 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish @ 1.996
6 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 2.001
7 Austrian + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 2.062
8 British + Japanese + Japanese + Norwegian_V @ 2.076
9 CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.088
10 CEU + CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese @ 2.092
11 Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.093
12 German-South + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish_V @ 2.120
13 British + Japanese + Japanese + Swedish_V @ 2.132
14 CEU + Japanese + Japanese + Welsh @ 2.180
15 British + CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese @ 2.193
16 Japanese + Japanese + Welsh + Welsh @ 2.201
17 German-North + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.212
18 German_V + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.216
19 CEU_V + Japanese + Japanese + Welsh @ 2.221
20 German + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 2.227


Eurogenes EUTest:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cornish +50% Japanese @ 4.476
2 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 4.517
3 50% IE +50% Japanese @ 4.736
4 50% Japanese +50% Scottish @ 4.745
5 50% Cornish +50% KR @ 5.013
6 50% KR +50% Orcadian @ 5.049
7 50% IE +50% KR @ 5.241
8 50% KR +50% Scottish @ 5.260
9 50% Japanese +50% NL @ 5.280
10 50% DK +50% Japanese @ 5.328
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% South_Finnish @ 2.571
2 50% Japanese +25% East_Finnish +25% French_Basque @ 2.624
3 50% KR +25% East_Finnish +25% French_Basque @ 2.980
4 50% KR +25% French_Basque +25% South_Finnish @ 3.089
5 50% Japanese +25% EE +25% French_Basque @ 3.637
6 50% Japanese +25% Cornish +25% North_Swedish @ 4.067
7 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% North_Swedish @ 4.162
8 50% Japanese +25% North_Swedish +25% Scottish @ 4.232
9 50% KR +25% EE +25% French_Basque @ 4.249
10 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% North_Russian @ 4.293
90086 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese + South_Finnish @ 2.571
2 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese @ 2.624
3 East_Finnish + French_Basque + Japanese + KR @ 2.711
4 French_Basque + Japanese + KR + South_Finnish @ 2.747
5 East_Finnish + French_Basque + KR + KR @ 2.980
6 French_Basque + KR + KR + South_Finnish @ 3.089
7 EE + French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese @ 3.637
8 EE + French_Basque + Japanese + KR @ 3.887
9 Cornish + Japanese + Japanese + North_Swedish @ 4.067
10 French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese + North_Swedish @ 4.162
11 Japanese + Japanese + North_Swedish + Scottish @ 4.232
12 EE + French_Basque + KR + KR @ 4.249
13 Cornish + Japanese + KR + North_Swedish @ 4.253
14 French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese + North_Russian @ 4.293
15 East_Russian + French_Basque + Japanese + Japanese @ 4.340
16 French_Basque + Japanese + KR + North_Swedish @ 4.349
17 French_Basque + Japanese + KR + North_Russian @ 4.373
18 IE + Japanese + Japanese + North_Swedish @ 4.392
19 Cornish + Japanese + Japanese + Orcadian @ 4.402
20 Japanese + KR + North_Swedish + Scottish @ 4.412


Dodecad V3:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Japanese @ 2.491
2 50% CEU +50% Japanese @ 2.862
3 50% German +50% Korean @ 3.048
4 50% Japanese +50% Orcadian @ 3.158
5 50% Japanese +50% Argyll @ 3.203
6 50% Japanese +50% Orkney @ 3.285
7 50% CEU +50% Korean @ 3.485
8 50% German +50% Japanese @ 3.519
9 50% Japanese +50% N._European @ 3.534
10 50% Korean +50% Argyll @ 3.684
25878 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% CEU +25% German @ 2.046
2 50% German +25% Hezhen +25% JPT @ 2.101
3 50% Japanese +25% German +25% Orcadian @ 2.154
4 50% German +25% Han +25% Hezhen @ 2.212
5 50% Japanese +25% German +25% Orkney @ 2.233
6 50% German +25% CHB +25% Hezhen @ 2.304
7 50% German +25% Daur +25% JPT @ 2.305
8 50% Japanese +25% British_Isles +25% Hungarians @ 2.315
9 50% German +25% CHS +25% Oroqen @ 2.324
10 50% German +25% Lahu +25% Oroqen @ 2.335
711333 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 CEU + German + Lahu + Oroqen @ 1.660
2 CEU + German + Hezhen + JPT @ 1.688
3 CEU + German + Han + Hezhen @ 1.745
4 German + Lahu + Orcadian + Oroqen @ 1.792
5 CEU + Dai + German + Oroqen @ 1.793
6 CEU + Daur + German + JPT @ 1.795
7 CEU + German + Hezhen + Yizu @ 1.806
8 German + Hezhen + JPT + Orcadian @ 1.818
9 CEU + Chinese + German + Hezhen @ 1.866
10 German + Lahu + Orkney + Oroqen @ 1.868
11 German + Han + Hezhen + Orcadian @ 1.869
12 CEU + German + Hezhen + Naxi @ 1.882
13 German + Hezhen + JPT + Orkney @ 1.892
14 CEU + German + Hezhen + Tujia @ 1.893
15 CEU + Chinese + Daur + German @ 1.893
16 CEU + German + Hezhen + She @ 1.894
17 Daur + German + JPT + Orcadian @ 1.908
18 CEU + CHS + German + Oroqen @ 1.910
19 Dai + German + Orcadian + Oroqen @ 1.917
20 CEU + Daur + German + Yizu @ 1.918


HarappaWorld:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% japanese +50% utahn-white @ 2.813
2 50% japanese +50% n-european @ 2.923
3 50% japanese +50% utahn-white @ 2.963
4 50% british +50% japanese @ 3.284
5 50% japanese +50% orcadian @ 4.228
6 50% tu +50% utahn-white @ 4.772
7 50% naxi +50% utahn-white @ 4.903
8 50% n-european +50% tu @ 4.974
9 50% tu +50% utahn-white @ 4.984
10 50% british +50% tu @ 4.992
61425 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% utahn-white +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.439
2 50% utahn-white +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.453
3 50% n-european +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.659
4 50% n-european +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.676
5 50% utahn-white +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.688
6 50% utahn-white +25% chinese-beijing +25% xibo @ 2.700
7 50% utahn-white +25% han-nchina +25% xibo @ 2.700
8 50% japanese +25% russian +25% spain-basc @ 2.701
9 50% japanese +25% n-european +25% utahn-white @ 2.713
10 50% japanese +25% russian +25% spain-basc @ 2.722
1268948 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 chinese-beijing + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.008
2 chinese-beijing + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.014
3 basque + chinese-beijing + russian + xibo @ 2.221
4 basque + chinese-beijing + russian + xibo @ 2.222
5 chinese-beijing + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.267
6 chinese-beijing + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.299
7 chinese-beijing + n-european + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.374
8 chinese-beijing + n-european + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.391
9 chinese-beijing + mordovian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.423
10 chinese-beijing + mordovian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.426
11 british + chinese-beijing + n-european + xibo @ 2.430
12 chinese-beijing + utahn-white + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.439
13 british + chinese-beijing + n-european + xibo @ 2.445
14 chinese-beijing + utahn-white + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.453
15 chinese-beijing + utahn-white + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.489
16 han-nchina + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.500
17 chinese-beijing + utahn-white + utahn-white + xibo @ 2.502
18 han-nchina + russian + spain-basc + xibo @ 2.536
19 basque + chinese-beijing + russian + xibo @ 2.565
20 chinese-beijing + mongola + russian + spain-basc @ 2.566

Scarlet Ibis
01-15-2013, 07:23 AM
Mine:

J-Test 4 Ancestors Oracle:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Cornish @ 4.766
2 Orcadian @ 6.140
3 IE @ 6.687
4 Scottish @ 6.867
5 NL @ 7.276
6 English @ 7.722
7 West_&_Central_German @ 7.766
8 DK @ 10.413
9 FR @ 10.729
10 NO @ 11.671
78 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% FR +50% Scottish @ 4.707
2 50% Cornish +50% Cornish @ 4.766
3 50% FR +50% Orcadian @ 5.170
4 50% Cornish +50% Orcadian @ 5.183
5 50% Cornish +50% Scottish @ 5.328
6 50% FR +50% IE @ 5.366
7 50% Cornish +50% IE @ 5.414
8 50% AT +50% Scottish @ 5.423
9 50% Cornish +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.652
10 50% Cornish +50% NL @ 5.667
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.185
2 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% UA @ 3.304
3 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.311
4 50% IE +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.562
5 50% Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% HU @ 3.701
6 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% UA @ 3.709
7 50% Orcadian +25% French_Basque +25% HU @ 3.730
8 50% English +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.743
9 50% Scottish +25% AT +25% FR @ 3.795
10 50% Cornish +25% French_Basque +25% PL @ 3.797
64119 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 English + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.020
2 French_Basque + Orcadian + PL + Scottish @ 3.171
3 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + Scottish @ 3.185
4 French_Basque + HU + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.247
5 Cornish + French_Basque + PL + Scottish @ 3.263
6 French_Basque + Scottish + Scottish + UA @ 3.304
7 French_Basque + IE + PL + Scottish @ 3.308
8 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + PL @ 3.311
9 English + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.333
10 English + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.355
11 French_Basque + HU + NO + Scottish @ 3.379
12 French_Basque + NL + PL + Scottish @ 3.406
13 French_Basque + IE + Orcadian + PL @ 3.408
14 AT + French_Basque + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.413
15 English + French_Basque + Scottish + UA @ 3.417
16 French_Basque + Orcadian + Scottish + UA @ 3.441
17 Cornish + French_Basque + Orcadian + PL @ 3.443
18 French_Basque + PL + Scottish + West_&_Central_German @ 3.506
19 Cornish + French_Basque + IE + PL @ 3.529
20 French_Basque + IE + Scottish + UA @ 3.540

J-Test Oracle X

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Scottish 49.25%
2 French_Basque 16.94%
3 LIT 13.07%
4 Cornish 10.47%
5 FR 4.89%
6 AJ 2.85%
7 GE 1.01%
8 Mozabite_Berber 0.91%
9 North_Italian 0.61%
10 Somali 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Cornish 64.52%
2 LIT 9.46%
3 Scottish 9.11%
4 French_Basque 8.37%
5 ES 3.08%
6 GE 3.07%
7 Orcadian 1.10%
8 Mozabite_Berber 1.08%
9 HU 0.21%
10 AJ 0.00%


What is all of your known ancestry if you don't mind my asking? Just UK?

History-of-Things
01-16-2013, 04:04 PM
What is all of your known ancestry if you don't mind my asking? Just UK?

The best estimate using surnames circa 1800 (all of which, one might add, are in the United States at the time, and including speculative surnames based upon most likely candidate now identified for a missing second great-grandfather): 80% British Isles, 5% French, 15% German. This involves some guesswork, and given their contexts at the time, involves me filing "Beard" "Summers" and "Woolery" as altered German surnames, and assigning Humbert as potentially French (could be Belgian?). If these were to turn out to be British, then that would obviously change the percentages. A few generations further back there are Dutch and possibly Scandinavian surnames in the mix as well. BTW, what does the abbreviation LIT stand for above?

Scarlet Ibis
01-17-2013, 01:48 AM
The best estimate using surnames circa 1800 (all of which, one might add, are in the United States at the time, and including speculative surnames based upon most likely candidate now identified for a missing second great-grandfather): 80% British Isles, 5% French, 15% German. This involves some guesswork, and given their contexts at the time, involves me filing "Beard" "Summers" and "Woolery" as altered German surnames, and assigning Humbert as potentially French (could be Belgian?). If these were to turn out to be British, then that would obviously change the percentages. A few generations further back there are Dutch and possibly Scandinavian surnames in the mix as well. BTW, what does the abbreviation LIT stand for above?

I could be mistaken, but I'm almost certain Polako's calculator is using the abbreviation "LIT" for Lithuania.

I see it shows up in your top 3 in the Oracle-X. I'm actually not sure what to make of Oracle-X...the last time I ran it on myself and my parents, it wasn't accurate. That was back when it was still new, though, and when they still working more kinks out of it. I think I'll try it again, and make a thread about the Oracle-X calculator.

Hanna
02-19-2013, 05:26 PM
My top 5 with Oracle-4

Oracle-4 Harappa:

1 armenian + georgian + turk-aydin + turkish @ 2.410
2 abhkasian + armenian + turkish + turk-kayseri @ 2.427
3 abhkasian + armenian + turk-kayseri + turk-kayseri @ 2.537
4 armenian + georgian + turkish + turk-kayseri @ 2.541
5 azerbaijan-jew + georgian + turkish + turk-istanbul @ 2.556

Oracle-4 MDLP:

1 Cypriot + Cirkassian + Turk + Kurd @ 1.011
2 Tatar_Crim + Turk + Georgian_Laz + Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.051
3 Ossetian + Turk + Kurd + Sephardim @ 1.070
4 Ossetian + Turk + Jew-Uzbekistan + Greek_Cretan @ 1.157
5 Ossetian + Turk + Jew_Italia + Kurd @ 1.159


Oracle-4 EUtest:

1 Armenian + GE + TR + TR @ 2.610
2 GE + TR + TR + TR @ 2.803
3 Assyrian + GE + TR + TR @ 3.394
4 Assyrian + GE + GE + GR @ 3.988
5 Armenian + GE + GR + TR @ 4.215

Oracle-4 Jtest:

1 Armenian + GE + TR + TR @ 1.946
2 GE + TR + TR + TR @ 2.853
3 Assyrian + GE + TR + TR @ 3.223
4 Assyrian + GE + GE + GR @ 4.198
5 Armenian + Armenian + GE + TR @ 4.353

Oracle-4 Dodecad K12b:

1 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Nogais @ 3.126
2 Armenian + Cypriots + Georgians + Turkmens @ 3.142
3 Abhkasians + Armenian + Cypriots + Turkmens @ 3.179
4 Armenians + Armenians + Turks + Turks @ 3.189
5 Armenians + Armenians_15 + Turks + Turks @ 3.194

Hanna
02-19-2013, 05:34 PM
My maternal top 5 with Oracle-4:

Oracle-4 Harappa:

1 armenian + armenian + armenian + kurd @ 2.238
2 armenian + armenian + armenian + kurd @ 2.260
3 armenian + armenian + armenian + kurd @ 2.296
4 armenian + armenian + armenian + kurd @ 2.360
5 armenian + armenian + armenian + kurd @ 2.451

Oracle-4 MDLP:

1 Kurd + Greek_Cretan + Georgian_Imereti + Armenian @ 1.567
2 Kurd + Sephardim + Georgian_Laz + Georgian_Imereti @ 1.658
3 Kurd + Jew_Morocco + Georgian_Imereti + Georgian_Imereti @ 1.708
4 Jew_Algeria + Kurd + Georgian_Laz + Georgian_Imereti @ 1.752
5 Jew_Kurd + Greek_Cretan + Georgian_Laz + Georgian_Imereti @ 1.771

Oracle-4 EUtest:

1 Armenian + GE + GE + Mandean @ 4.524
2 Armenian + Assyrian + GE + GE @ 4.695
3 Assyrian + Assyrian + GE + GE @ 4.845
4 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + GE @ 5.022
5 Assyrian + GE + GE + Mandean @ 5.102

Oracle-4 Jtest:

1 Assyrian + Assyrian + GE + GE @ 4.955
2 Armenian + GE + GE + Mandean @ 4.967
3 Armenian + Assyrian + GE + GE @ 5.027
4 Assyrian + GE + GE + Mandean @ 5.295
5 GE + GE + GE + Samaritan @ 5.335

Oracle-4 Dodecad k12B:

1 Armenian + Armenians + Armenians + Iranians @ 1.926
2 Armenians + Armenians + Armenians_15 + Iranians @ 2.011
3 Armenians + Armenians + Armenians_15 + Kurd @ 2.092
4 Armenian + Armenians + Armenians_15 + Kurd @ 2.107
5 Armenian + Armenians + Armenians + Kurd @ 2.125

PureEvil
02-20-2013, 03:40 AM
Oracle 4-HarappaWorld:
1 french + french + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.076
2 french + french + n-european + utahn-white @ 2.103
3 basque + belorussian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.107
4 british + british + french + hungarian @ 2.108
5 british + french + romany + utahn-white @ 2.160
6 belorussian + romany + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.165
7 belorussian + romany + spain-basc + utahn-white @ 2.177
8 basque + british + romany + russian @ 2.178
9 basque + orcadian + romany + russian @ 2.187
10 basque + belorussian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.218
11 basque + romany + russian + utahn-white @ 2.221
12 british + romany + russian + spain-basc @ 2.228
13 basque + romany + russian + utahn-white @ 2.241
14 italian + orcadian + orcadian + utahn-white @ 2.248
15 basque + belorussian + n-european + romany @ 2.250
16 french + french + n-european + n-european @ 2.261
17 french + utahn-white + utahn-white + utahn-white @ 2.264
18 italian + n-european + orcadian + orcadian @ 2.271
19 french + orcadian + romany + utahn-white @ 2.274
20 orcadian + romany + russian + spain-basc @ 2.294

Oracle 4-MDLP World 22:
1 CEU + German + Romania + Swedish @ 1.604
2 British + German + Romania + Swedish @ 1.633
3 German-North + German_V + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.856
4 British + German_V + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.863
5 British + Gagauz + German + Swedish @ 1.877
6 CEU_V + German + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.888
7 German + German + Kosovar + Swedish_V @ 1.890
8 CEU + German_V + Kosovar + Russian_North @ 1.892
9 German_V + Romania + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.895
10 CEU + German + German-North + Romania @ 1.901
11 CEU + Gagauz + German + Swedish @ 1.904
12 CEU_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish @ 1.912
13 German_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.913
14 German + German_V + Norwegian_V + Romania @ 1.920
15 German + Orcadian + Romania + Swedish @ 1.925
16 Hungarian + Norwegian_V + Romania + Swedish @ 1.942
17 British + German + German-North + Romania @ 1.943
18 British + German + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.957
19 CEU_V + German_V + Romania + Swedish_V @ 1.967
20 CEU + Gagauz + German-North + Swedish @ 1.971

Oracle 4-EUtest:
1 English + English + English + English @ 1.839
2 English + English + English + NL @ 1.860
3 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 1.991
4 DK + English + English + English @ 2.050
5 English + English + NL + NL @ 2.155
6 DK + English + English + NL @ 2.231
7 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.317
8 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 2.372
9 Cornish + English + English + English @ 2.488
10 English + English + English + NO @ 2.504
11 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 2.517
12 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 2.524
13 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 2.537
14 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 2.558
15 English + English + English + IE @ 2.597
16 English + English + IE + West_&_Central_German @ 2.599
17 English + English + IE + NL @ 2.601
18 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.606
19 Cornish + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.608
20 DK + English + NL + NL @ 2.619

Oracle 4-Jtest:
1 English + English + English + English @ 2.093
2 English + English + English + NL @ 2.142
3 DK + English + English + English @ 2.202
4 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.298
5 DK + English + English + NL @ 2.396
6 English + English + NL + NL @ 2.441
7 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.519
8 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 2.637
9 English + English + English + NO @ 2.665
10 Cornish + English + English + English @ 2.679
11 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 2.680
12 English + English + English + Orcadian @ 2.739
13 Cornish + English + English + NL @ 2.751
14 DK + English + NL + NL @ 2.791
15 English + English + NL + Orcadian @ 2.799
16 DK + DK + English + FR @ 2.821
17 Cornish + DK + English + NL @ 2.832
18 Cornish + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 2.853
19 English + English + Orcadian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.885
20 English + English + English + IE @ 2.899

Oracle 4-Dodecad K12b:
1 Andalucia + Argyll + Cornwall + Russian_B @ 1.814
2 Andalucia + Argyll + Belorussian + Cornwall @ 1.857
3 Andalucia + Argyll + CEU30 + Mixed_Slav @ 1.881
4 Andalucia + Argyll + Argyll + Mixed_Slav @ 1.895
5 Andalucia + Argyll + English + Mixed_Slav @ 1.896
6 Andalucia + Argyll + Argyll + Ukranians @ 1.907
7 Andalucia + Cornwall + Irish + Russian_B @ 1.912
8 Andalucia + Argyll + Cornwall + Mixed_Slav @ 1.912
9 Andalucia + Argyll + Kent + Mixed_Slav @ 1.923
10 Andalucia + Cornwall + Orcadian + Russian_B @ 1.925
11 Andalucia + Argyll + Orcadian + Ukranians @ 1.938
12 Andalucia + Argyll + Cornwall + Russian @ 1.942
13 Andalucia + Argyll + British + Russian_B @ 1.946
14 Andalucia + Argyll + Orkney + Ukranians @ 1.948
15 Andalucia + Argyll + Irish + Ukranians @ 1.959
16 Andalucia + Argyll + Irish + Mixed_Slav @ 1.964
17 Andalucia + Argyll + British + Mixed_Slav @ 1.984
18 Andalucia + CEU30 + Cornwall + Russian @ 1.990
19 Andalucia + Argyll + Mixed_Slav + Orcadian @ 1.993
20 Andalucia + Cornwall + English + Russian @ 2.004

geebee
02-20-2013, 05:34 AM
The best estimate using surnames circa 1800 (all of which, one might add, are in the United States at the time, and including speculative surnames based upon most likely candidate now identified for a missing second great-grandfather): 80% British Isles, 5% French, 15% German. This involves some guesswork, and given their contexts at the time, involves me filing "Beard" "Summers" and "Woolery" as altered German surnames, and assigning Humbert as potentially French (could be Belgian?). If these were to turn out to be British, then that would obviously change the percentages. A few generations further back there are Dutch and possibly Scandinavian surnames in the mix as well. BTW, what does the abbreviation LIT stand for above?

I can definitely relate to this. Even looking at only my parental surnames -- Bookhammer and Weaver -- can be misleading. Well, it wouldn't be too difficult to guess that "Bookhammer" is an Americanization. It seems to consist of two ordinary English words, but ones that make no sense in combination. Even just a little research led me to the German form "Buchhammer" -- which still exists -- and I've seen records showing both this earlier form and transitional ones among my ancestors. The immigrant ancestor arrived with "Buchhammer", with different versions showing up even during his lifetime. I've counted at least a dozen variations. Today the main forms are simply Bookhammer and Bookhamer. (An uncle calls the one-m variety, "the dumb ones", but I've found that even in Germany you can find both "Buchhammer" and "Buchhamer". However, the spelling with two m's is many times more common (something like 50-1).)

"Weaver", on the other hand, looks like a fairly common British name. And it has been in that form since my 3rd great grandfather's time, which actually goes back to before 1800. But my mother always said it was originally Weber, and I've confirmed that via documents.

In addition to these two names, I have surnames from 1800 and slightly earlier that could be either British or German. And at any rate, it appears to have been about this time -- and sometimes earlier -- that my British and German ancestors began intermarrying. As a result, though my father ended up with a German name (albeit in an Americanized version), that was essentially luck. As far as I can tell, he's actually about half-and-half German and British (mainly Scots-Irish, I think). In fact, his father was actually even more British than German, but his mother was probably more German than British and so restored the balance. However, this depends on her "Fry" ancestors having been German. If they were British, it would change the equation.

(Because my mother was also about half German, so am I. Her father was predominantly German, with a small amount of Swiss, Dutch, and British; her mother was half Spanish, a quarter Alsatian, and the remainder French, Swiss, Irish, and Native American. But here, too, it's based mostly on surnames, except for the Native American. And even in that ancestor's case, the records mostly just say "une Indienne".)

Here's what my father gets in Jtest 4-Ancestors Oracle:

Kit Number: M093622

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 28.38
2 ATLANTIC 24.23
3 WEST_MED 12.14
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 11.95
5 EAST_EURO 8.09
6 ASHKENAZI 5.38
7 EAST_MED 5.30
8 WEST_ASIAN 4.52


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 English @ 4.981
2 NL @ 5.322
3 West_&_Central_German @ 5.459
4 Cornish @ 6.829
5 Orcadian @ 8.667
6 DK @ 9.014
7 FR @ 9.365
8 IE @ 9.560
9 Scottish @ 10.564
10 NO @ 11.224
78 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% English +50% FR @ 4.467
2 50% English +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.649
3 50% DK +50% FR @ 4.650
4 50% FR +50% NL @ 4.876
5 50% English +50% NL @ 4.925
6 50% FR +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.968
7 50% English +50% English @ 4.981
8 50% FR +50% NO @ 5.005
9 50% FR +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.157
10 50% NL +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.274
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English +25% FR +25% West_&_Central_German @ 3.502
2 50% English +25% NO +25% Tuscan @ 3.578
3 50% English +25% English +25% North_Italian @ 3.606
4 50% English +25% DK +25% North_Italian @ 3.616
5 50% English +25% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% Tuscan @ 3.644
6 50% English +25% English +25% FR @ 3.648
7 50% English +25% FR +25% NL @ 3.680
8 50% English +25% DK +25% Tuscan @ 3.719
9 50% English +25% NO +25% North_Italian @ 3.726
10 50% West_&_Central_German +25% English +25% FR @ 3.751
74155 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 English + English + FR + West_&_Central_German @ 3.502
2 English + English + NO + Tuscan @ 3.578
3 English + English + English + North_Italian @ 3.606
4 DK + English + English + North_Italian @ 3.616
5 English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.644
6 English + English + English + FR @ 3.648
7 English + English + FR + NL @ 3.680
8 DK + English + English + Tuscan @ 3.719
9 English + English + NO + North_Italian @ 3.726
10 English + FR + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.751
11 English + FR + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 3.767
12 English + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.795
13 English + NO + Scottish + Tuscan @ 3.796
14 English + Scottish + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.824
15 DK + English + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 3.842
16 English + English + North_Italian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.844
17 English + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.854
18 English + FR + NL + NL @ 3.865
19 DK + English + Scottish + Tuscan @ 3.887
20 English + English + English + Tuscan @ 3.898

189849 iterations.

Now here are my own results:

Kit Number: 116853

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.46
2 ATLANTIC 23.43
3 EAST_EURO 12.36
4 WEST_MED 11.37
5 SOUTH_BALTIC 10.08
6 WEST_ASIAN 6.44
7 EAST_MED 3.91
8 ASHKENAZI 3.02
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 2.07
10 EAST_ASIAN 1.87


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_&_Central_German @ 5.977
2 NL @ 6.117
3 English @ 7.315
4 Cornish @ 7.779
5 Orcadian @ 8.531
6 IE @ 8.748
7 DK @ 8.851
8 NO @ 10.483
9 Scottish @ 10.640
10 FR @ 11.328
78 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% NL +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.943
2 50% West_&_Central_German +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.977
3 50% FR +50% NO @ 6.109
4 50% NL +50% NL @ 6.117
5 50% Cornish +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.209
6 50% English +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.239
7 50% IE +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.353
8 50% DK +50% FR @ 6.362
9 50% FR +50% North_Swedish @ 6.384
10 50% FR +50% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 6.404
3081 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% IE +25% North_Swedish +25% Tuscan @ 4.302
2 50% NO +25% IE +25% Tuscan @ 4.372
3 50% IE +25% NO +25% Tuscan @ 4.588
4 50% NO +25% Orcadian +25% Tuscan @ 4.631
5 50% Orcadian +25% North_Swedish +25% Tuscan @ 4.656
6 50% NO +25% Scottish +25% Tuscan @ 4.658
7 50% IE +25% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% Tuscan @ 4.693
8 50% DK +25% IE +25% Tuscan @ 4.787
9 50% Orcadian +25% NO +25% Tuscan @ 4.830
10 50% South_&_Central_Swedish +25% IE +25% Tuscan @ 4.872
83975 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 IE + IE + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.302
2 IE + NO + NO + Tuscan @ 4.372
3 IE + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.459
4 DK + IE + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.500
5 DK + IE + NO + Tuscan @ 4.502
6 IE + NO + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.562
7 IE + IE + NO + Tuscan @ 4.588
8 IE + NO + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.602
9 NO + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.631
10 IE + North_Swedish + Scottish + Tuscan @ 4.654
11 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.656
12 NO + NO + Scottish + Tuscan @ 4.658
13 English + IE + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.661
14 DK + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.670
15 IE + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.688
16 IE + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.693
17 DK + NO + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.735
18 IE + NL + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.761
19 DK + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 4.780
20 DK + DK + IE + Tuscan @ 4.787

251449 iterations.

(I'd imagine the 1.87% "East Asian" is mostly the calculator's attempt to deal with the Native American -- which generally shows at about that level or higher.)