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Vadim Verenich
08-13-2015, 07:25 AM
The rationale (reason) behind this crowdfunding initiative is to reimburse my personal expenses spent on the imputation/phasing (https://github.com/molgenis/molgenis-imputation)of reference sample from the publically available datasets. The final objective was to map Reich's Lab dataset (genotyped on Affymetrix platform) against the reference panel 1000 Genomes, to increase the number of markers in all publically available dataset at least by 25% - and what is more important - to make them available in the final version of Oracle.

I believe that outcome of this project will be advantageous to the genetic genealogy community.

Since the amount of expenditures is now fixed (I spent 300-350 euros on this project), the upper limit of all donations will be set to 350 euros, after reaching this goal the calculator will be made fully available.

Besides the included results from the calculator/Oracle, there will be additional perks to motivate the contributors:
1) additional 2-admix Oracle and 4-admix Oracle runs with only ancient samples included
2) worldwide scale PCA-plot showing the relative position of a contributor to the world populations
3) PCA-plot, showing the relative position of a contributor to the set of publically available genomes
4) 2-3 more perks to be included later




You can find more details about beta-version of this calculator in the thread below

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?5065-MDLP-K13-Ultimate-beta-calculator

ZephyrousMandaru
08-13-2015, 07:34 AM
Where would you like us to donate Vadim?

Vadim Verenich
08-13-2015, 10:12 AM
Please donate to PayPal [email protected]

ZephyrousMandaru
08-13-2015, 04:01 PM
Alright, I'll be able to donate next Thursday. Vadim, would it be alright with you if I announced your calculator in a Facebook group I'm in that has 3,227 members?

Vadim Verenich
08-13-2015, 04:25 PM
Yes, sure

Ignis90
08-13-2015, 07:55 PM
Just sent you ~20$ (slighly less) for my pred-Italian/Italian-like friend and myself.

randwulf
08-14-2015, 03:40 AM
sent $20 US.

Vadim Verenich
08-14-2015, 05:17 AM
Thanks,

€43.22 EUR of 350 EUR collected - 12% of the final goal reached

DMXX
08-14-2015, 10:02 AM
Donating $20 shortly. Looking forward to seeing the calculator published!

Sgt
08-14-2015, 06:24 PM
Sent $25.00 {U.S.}

dp
08-14-2015, 09:19 PM
Sent $25.00 {U.S.}
Welcome to Anthrogenica.
dp

Vadim Verenich
08-18-2015, 09:47 AM
45% of the required goal has been reached

Vadim Verenich
08-18-2015, 10:08 AM
Way to go

ZephyrousMandaru
08-18-2015, 11:41 AM
Can't wait, I'll be donating in a couple days.

J Man
08-18-2015, 01:42 PM
I will be donating $25.00 very soon myself.

crossover
08-18-2015, 03:17 PM
is this money needed just to program this or for other costs such as testing people for sample populations.

Ignis90
08-18-2015, 07:11 PM
is this money needed just to program this or for other costs such as testing people for sample populations.

Just to reimburse what he has already spent in this work.

J Man
08-20-2015, 12:27 AM
Just sent in $25.00.

lifeisdandy
08-21-2015, 02:01 PM
any updates?

MatAust21
08-22-2015, 12:56 AM
I just sent 20 Euros.

I also sent you an email a couple of days ago with some questions, so please take a look at it when you have time.

Thank you.

Vadim Verenich
08-23-2015, 05:09 PM
I just sent 20 Euros.

I also sent you an email a couple of days ago with some questions, so please take a look at it when you have time.

Thank you.

Thank you. Please send me a new e-mail, I can't see your name in my mail box.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-23-2015, 05:46 PM
I'll probably donate you $20 later on today or tomorrow, how much of the goal has been reached so far?

MatAust21
08-23-2015, 06:49 PM
Thank you. Please send me a new e-mail, I can't see your name in my mail box.

I sent a new e-mail a few minutes ago.

The subject is named "Crowdfunding MatAust21". It is addressed to "[email protected]".

The questions in the previous e-mail were not very important, don't worry.

If you don't receive this second e-mail I just sent, or if the donation hasn't been received properly, Please send me a PM (I can't send one to you yet because, as a new member, I don't have enough posts) so I can give you a different e-mail for contact.

Thank you, and I apologize for any troubles.

ZephyrousMandaru
08-25-2015, 02:01 AM
Vadim, do you want us to send the money as Euros or USD?

Vadim Verenich
08-25-2015, 06:27 AM
Vadim, do you want us to send the money as Euros or USD?

Hi,

It doesn't really matter

ZephyrousMandaru
08-25-2015, 07:09 AM
I just sent a donation, how much of your goal has been reached so far? Is it almost fully funded?

anglesqueville
08-25-2015, 07:44 AM
Just sent you $25.

lifeisdandy
08-27-2015, 01:43 PM
Is the calculator paid for yet?

Vadim Verenich
08-28-2015, 05:13 AM
I'll probably donate you $20 later on today or tomorrow, how much of the goal has been reached so far?

Circa 58%

ZephyrousMandaru
08-28-2015, 05:37 AM
Circa 58%

Thanks, just 42% more and we'll be there.

lifeisdandy
08-28-2015, 07:57 PM
I tried to donate but it didnt work for some reason....

can't_lurk_no_mo'
08-30-2015, 08:56 PM
Will the MDLP K13 calculator be available at GEDmatch once the money is raised?

Vadim Verenich
09-02-2015, 08:24 AM
Will the MDLP K13 calculator be available at GEDmatch once the money is raised?

Yes, it will

lifeisdandy
09-02-2015, 12:37 PM
Yes, it will

Where are we at now in terms of funding?

Vadim Verenich
09-03-2015, 07:58 AM
Where are we at now in terms of funding?

We are at 60% of the desired goal

Scarlet Ibis
09-05-2015, 02:25 AM
Will donate next Friday

ZephyrousMandaru
09-09-2015, 11:16 PM
Any update on the funding goal?

lifeisdandy
09-11-2015, 03:07 PM
any updates?

ZephyrousMandaru
09-15-2015, 09:19 AM
I just sent you $20, I hope this calculator is funded soon.

Vadim Verenich
09-15-2015, 09:50 AM
Thank you
The goal has been almost reached - 10% left

ZephyrousMandaru
09-15-2015, 09:58 AM
That's great news, we're so close and we've been waiting over a month for this. Come on guys, we can fund this last 10% and have this calculator today.

John Doe
09-15-2015, 10:12 AM
To just send 20$ under "crowdfunding"? Also, once this test is released, will it still be for money or will it become free for all?

ZephyrousMandaru
09-15-2015, 10:18 AM
I am pretty sure it'll be free for all, Vadim has mentioned that it'll be on GED Match. But I'm hoping he'll release the DIY version with the Oracle as well.

khanabadoshi
09-15-2015, 10:39 AM
Sent a lil' sum'n sum'n.

DMXX
09-15-2015, 10:44 AM
10% left means $30-35. Khana's donation would reduce this.

Given how close we are Vadim, it would be useful to inform us specifically how much more you are expecting (just so surplus donations aren't sent accidentally by any members here). I'm sure someone would come by and get you to 100% if that's done.

ZephyrousMandaru
09-15-2015, 10:53 AM
My guess is that he probably has less than 10 Euros left before it's fully funded.

anglesqueville
09-15-2015, 01:31 PM
Many people are waiting for the next starwars' episode. Here we are waiting for new calculators (biting our nails).

khanabadoshi
09-15-2015, 02:44 PM
10% left means $30-35. Khana's donation would reduce this.

Given how close we are Vadim, it would be useful to inform us specifically how much more you are expecting (just so surplus donations aren't sent accidentally by any members here). I'm sure someone would come by and get you to 100% if that's done.

I am pretty sure I surplussed this ish. Much like Biggie Smalls does to a kiddy pool.

EDIT: For clarity: Don't send more money until he clarifies if he is still short. I sent 10% and then some. I shoulda paid attention in math class. In any case, Vladim, enjoy a steak on me if it comes to that.

Ignis90
09-15-2015, 03:30 PM
More than 1/12 of a year waiting for this moment.


I am pretty sure I surplussed this ish. Much like Biggie Smalls does to a kiddy pool.

You ballin' dawg!

lifeisdandy
09-15-2015, 03:34 PM
would like word of when the calculator is on gedmatch please

MatAust21
09-15-2015, 05:19 PM
I just donated 5 more Euros, adding to a total of now 30.

MatAust21
09-15-2015, 05:21 PM
If everyone that already donated could give some 3-5 more bucks, we would probably have it paid for today.

firemonkey
09-15-2015, 09:50 PM
Sent another 35. Hope that pushes it over the target.

ZephyrousMandaru
09-16-2015, 01:24 AM
If my math isn't horribly off, 10% of 350 Euros is around 38 Euros. So we're probably beyond the 10%.

DMXX
09-16-2015, 01:28 AM
Thanks to firemonkey, khana and MatAust21's timely additions, we've certainly reached the target. Looking forward to this!

Arbogan
09-16-2015, 07:41 AM
I'll be donating 10 euroes to top it off.

ZephyrousMandaru
09-16-2015, 07:44 AM
It's greatly appreciate, but I think it's already topped off.

Sangarius
09-16-2015, 07:54 AM
It's greatly appreciate, but I think it's already topped off.

I think it should be close to 400€ now. It's now up to Vadim to release the calculator.

basmaci
09-16-2015, 08:28 AM
i will to, but i'm not familiar with paypal things :behindsofa: , sangarius could me help on PM guess

Arbogan
09-16-2015, 08:51 AM
I still want access to personalized results.

Ignis90
09-16-2015, 09:13 AM
I still want access to personalized results.

Fair enough.

firemonkey
09-16-2015, 11:28 AM
Now the target has been met I wonder how long till the calculator is available on Gedmatch. I would have thought it would have been loaded to Gedmatch by now presuming lack of funding was the only thing holding things up.

ZephyrousMandaru
09-16-2015, 11:36 AM
I'm thinking Vadim hasn't prepared the DIY calculator files yet, and that the preliminary sample runs were run using ADMIXTURE and whatever dataset he had available. He could be in the process of preparing the calculator files now for both the DIY and GED Match version, or maybe he's busy.

anglesqueville
09-16-2015, 12:41 PM
Don't worry. Tomorrow I'm obliged to leave my home and my dear computer for a week, and I'm ready to bet that the new MDLP will get available precisely during that week.

lifeisdandy
09-16-2015, 12:58 PM
I was hoping I would wake up this morning like it was christmas day and find the calculator ready under the gedmatch christmas tree.... :( santa didn't come yet

basmaci
09-16-2015, 01:22 PM
$10 :typing:

DMXX
09-16-2015, 01:30 PM
Given the remaining 10% has, based on the member responses here, already been achieved and surpassed, I will be closing this thread very shortly as crowdfunding has been successful.

To all members who are unfamiliar with the other posts:

The target has likely been reached!

As such, any contributions towards Vadim won't be going to the calculator's release itself. If a burning desire to contribute remains, that is independent of the calculator.

I'll be asking Vadim to open a new thread in the Open-Source Projects (http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?138-Open-Source-Projects)section for MDLP K13 Ultimate when he is ready to do so.

Looking forward to seeing the outcome.