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J Man
08-21-2015, 02:08 AM
I have always found the Vainakhs (Chechens and Ingush) to be a very interesting group of people. They are natives of the Caucasus and linguistically they belong to the Northeast Caucasian or Nakho-Dagestanian language family. They also have a very strong clan system that has helped to preserve their culture over the years as they faced invasions and warred with numerous foreign groups with the Russians being the most recent. Another reason that I am interested in the Vainakhs is because the have the highest percentage of Y-DNA haplogroup J2a among them of any group in the entire world. Pretty much all of the J2a among the Vainakhs is part of the J2a1b-M67 subclade. The Ingush have the most J2a of any group in the world at around 88% overall. Next come the Chechens at around 55% J2a overall. Other Y-DNA haplogroups such as J1, and L3 make up most of the rest of Vainakh Y-DNA. Within the Caucasus genes and language tend to correlate quite strongly with each other and this is mainly due to isolation (mountainous terrain), and genetic drift.

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Vainakh/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/chechen-noahcho/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Ingush/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/nakhdna/default.aspx?section=yresults

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_the_Caucasus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355373/

J Man
08-21-2015, 10:14 AM
Some links about the Vainakhs and related peoples.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakh_peoples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingush_people

J Man
09-08-2015, 11:01 PM
Some neat and interesting sounding Ingush and Chechen songs/dances. Zikr is practised by many Sufi Muslim peoples but each group seems to have a unique sounds to them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTNSU54l4Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0W9asRWsww


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpoKV5A_Uw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6fJJVCHwOw

freitas howe
10-02-2015, 12:43 AM
Great information J man, according to numerous hg predictors 98% J2a1b. In the J-m172 project I am in the J2a1b-m67 group made up of a small group of men from the Caucasus. At ftdna my hg was unknown at first then they finally grouped me.

Viktor Reznov
10-20-2015, 01:17 PM
How recently did J2a1b and J2a1b1 originate btw? I assume it was not among the semites of the time.
J2a brotherhood :beerchug:

J Man
10-27-2015, 12:04 PM
How recently did J2a1b and J2a1b1 originate btw? I assume it was not among the semites of the time.
J2a brotherhood :beerchug:

Both J2a1b and J2a1b1 originated way before the Semites existed as a language/cultural grouping.