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jutland
12-19-2015, 04:18 AM
Went from z225 to R-Y16018 and not sure where this haplogroup comes from. This if off DF27 found with the FTDNA snp pack. Folks positive are from Ireland, Spain and even a German so far.
Any help/info would be appreciated.

jutland
12-24-2015, 03:08 AM
Still no replies suggest this is a small group at this point?

razyn
12-24-2015, 02:07 PM
Well, that, and it's a season during which routines don't include a lot of computer time.

Nobody with Y16018 has uploaded his NextGen sequenced results to the Big Tree, yet. Two YFull customers have done so; I believe they are also members of group Ia3 in the FTDNA project. The mutation is at 21612424, T to C. The Puerto Rican sample HG00742 is on Alex's tree, and YFull says he has that mutation; but the one guy Alex has grouped with HG00742 doesn't have this (or any other SNP below the Z225 level) identified, so it might be that all they share is the lack of an identified subclade.

If some Plunkett, Staiert or Serna were to download his BigY .vcf file and send it (still zipped) to the DF27 Yahoo group, to me, or to Alex Williamson -- probably Y16018 would get on the Big Tree pretty soon, and we’d have more basis for talking about its similarity with (or difference from) other branches of Z225.

jutland
12-24-2015, 11:40 PM
Thanks Rayzn,
Im wondering what I should do? My original sample was from nat geo, sent to FTDNA then did the d27 pack and have this result.
Mayby I will do the 67 or 111y? Im almost certain this is a group is from northern Spain area from which it spread as its seen in the UK and
Puerto Rico by way of Spaniard migration. All these places have something in common and thats Spain. Im first gen from
Europe and know the history well enough is another reason why I say this. Its all very interesting and I would like to confirm
so any input on the matter or suggestions on what I should do would be appreciated.

thetick
12-25-2015, 03:55 AM
Just so you know R-Y16018 is predicted by Yfull to be 4900 years old. This is long before Spain or Spanish people so it's very likely R-Y16018 will have memeber across most of Europe.
http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y16018

jutland
12-25-2015, 04:31 PM
Thanks the tick, your correct and I guess I should say the Atlantic area of N Spain, and UK as the z225/9 and now R16018 seem to be the same group again except for the
S Americans who had been invaded by Europe suggest this. Also, I have zero admixture from S America or Mid east, seems to be all European so this I think must be the area of N Spain.
Paternal side is from Spain but seems confusing to get more clarity for the origin. Amazing how others have specifics and even my maternal DNA H1a3a was very easy but the paternal has
become a quest that never ends.
What would be the best way to find the origin? Should I do the big Y and get a specialist to help, should I do the Y111 at FTDNA?
Thanks again to all.

northkerry
12-25-2015, 05:44 PM
Should I do the big Y and get a specialist to help, should I do the Y111 at FTDNA?

Take the FTDNA Big Y test and send your .BAM file to Yfull.com. They will gave you 400 YSTRs and all your novel SNPs.

thetick
12-27-2015, 11:24 PM
Should I do the big Y and get a specialist to help, should I do the Y111 at FTDNA?

Take the FTDNA Big Y test and send your .BAM file to Yfull.com. They will gave you 400 YSTRs and all your novel SNPs.

And don't forget to send your result to Alex from the Big Tree http://ytree.net/Instructions.html

Mikewww
12-29-2015, 11:51 PM
Should I do the big Y and get a specialist to help, should I do the Y111 at FTDNA?
I support receiving a BAM interpretation from FGC or YFull or both.

I think it is still important to get the 111 STRs from FTDNA as you don't get the same 111 STRs from BAM interpretations and they are not measured the same way. If you are interested in genetic genealogy then having 111 STRs registered in FTDNA's matching database is important. Everybody gets measured on the same things, the same way and accessibility via the matching and project web systems covers a large, large number of people.

kafky
02-19-2020, 01:09 AM
I am Y16018! But no other children block seam to be related with me. My oldest known Y line ancestor is from Portugal (Viseu district), Tomé Fernandes born in 21.12.1654 son of Domingos Ramos and Maria Fernandes Ramalha.

kafky
03-08-2020, 08:07 PM
I have it... On 21,612,424 position the C. Portuguese origin with Y traced back until 1624...

Exploring further, I also have positive mutations: DF27/S250 > ZZ12 > ZZ39 > Z229 > Y16019 > Y16018 > FT13273 > BY36400