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Tjada
01-04-2016, 10:37 PM
Hi,

I've tested my DNA at 23andme and my paternal haplogroup is C2* (a subgroup of C2).
But what is C2* exactly? Is it C-M38?
I'm originaly from the Moluccan Islands, (eastern part of Indonesia).

Greets Tjada

lgmayka
01-05-2016, 12:56 AM
C2 is indeed C-M38, according to 23andMe's Ancestry Tools > Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper. YFull doesn't have a single example of C-M38 (http://yfull.com/tree/C-M38/). You clearly need to order a full-Y test. :)

Tjada
01-05-2016, 10:52 AM
Thanks for your respons Igmayka!
It was a bit confusing for me, all those subgroups etc, C2-C2*-CM38-CM38*-CM208 etc
My Ancestry Composition:

23andme:
65.9% Southeast Asian
30.5% Oceanian

DNA.LAND:
55.25% Southeast Asian
42.97% Native Oceanian

GEDMATCH MDLP K13 ULTIMATE
53.53% East Asian
41.18% Oceanian

Just trying to figure out the connection between my Y-dna and my Ancestry Compostions :))

shazou
04-29-2016, 02:59 AM
FTDNA gave me Y-dna haplogroup "C-M216".



"C-M216", an SNP that is now regarded as synonymous with C-M130 – xM8, M38, M217, M210, M356) have been found in 3.9% (3/77) of a sample of the general population of Kathmandu, Nepal.[19] Other examples of C-M216 have been reported among Mongol and Turkic peoples, including the: Jalairs, Tatars, Kazakhs, Crimean Tatars, Merkits, Jochids and Uzbeks

Megalophias
04-29-2016, 03:32 AM
23andme gave me Y-dna haplogroup "C" and that's it; no C3 or C2 etc, just C. So I'm guessing that my Y-dna originates from India and is Australoid related, but I'm not completely sure.
Are you Filipino? There is a fair bit of C* from the Philippines - possibly it's C1b1a2 or C1b1b, which is quite common in Indonesia. Indian C is typically C5 (C1b1a1). C is very ancient and diverse in Island Southeast Asia, so it's unlikely to be Indian, unless you mean like 50 000 years ago, or you have Indian ancestry yourself.

shazou
04-29-2016, 03:58 AM
Are you Filipino? There is a fair bit of C* from the Philippines - possibly it's C1b1a2 or C1b1b, which is quite common in Indonesia. Indian C is typically C5 (C1b1a1). C is very ancient and diverse in Island Southeast Asia, so it's unlikely to be Indian, unless you mean like 50 000 years ago, or you have Indian ancestry yourself.
FTDNA gave me Y-dna haplogroup "C-M216". 23andme just gave me "C".

Yes I'm Filipino..I get 7.31% S_Indian on the puntDNAL K15 calculator. I know that pretty much all Filipinos get a fair amount of S_Indian on Gedmatch which I believe is an ancient admixture component since ISEA was heavily influenced by India in ancient times both culturally and genetically, plus Philippine negritos do carry a Dravidian genetic admixture component.

My puntDNAL K15 breakdown:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Asian 81.58
2 S_Indian 7.31
3 Oceanian 3.87
4 Caucasian 1.57
5 NE_European 1.48
6 Mediterranean 1.39
7 Amerindian 1.16
8 W_African 0.47
9 Beringian 0.45
10 Horn_Of_Africa 0.3
11 Wht_Nile_River 0.22
12 S_African 0.2

I found this on Wikipedia concerning C-M216:


"C-M216", an SNP that is now regarded as synonymous with C-M130 xM8, M38, M217, M210, M356) have been found in 3.9% (3/77) of a sample of the general population of Kathmandu, Nepal.[19] Other examples of C-M216 have been reported among Mongol and Turkic peoples, including the: Jalairs, Tatars, Kazakhs, Crimean Tatars, Merkits, Jochids and Uzbeks


Would I need to test for additional SNPs on FTDNA to find out more about my exact Y-dna haplogroup? I was thinking about doing the NatGeo test just for the haplogroup information alone.

Tjada
12-22-2016, 01:11 PM
Hi all,

My paternal haplogroup is C1b2a-M38 (the former C2 only found in East-Indonesia, Melanesia and Polynesia). I notice that wegene is using the updated isogg haplotree.
But I'm still "stuck" at C1b2a and no further sublcades.

How is that possible?

http://i68.tinypic.com/2ywhlrc.png

http://i64.tinypic.com/2mq98n6.png

lgmayka
12-23-2016, 04:04 AM
My paternal haplogroup is C1b2a-M38 (the former C2 only found in East-Indonesia, Melanesia and Polynesia). I notice that wegene is using the updated isogg haplotree.
But I'm still "stuck" at C1b2a and no further sublcades.
Have you taken the Big Y test? YFull's C-M38 haplotree (https://yfull.com/tree/C-M38/) has only 3 academic samples from Papua New Guinea--no Big Y customers at all.

Tjada
12-24-2016, 12:58 PM
Have you taken the Big Y test? YFull's C-M38 haplotree (https://yfull.com/tree/C-M38/) has only 3 academic samples from Papua New Guinea--no Big Y customers at all.

Not yet, I'm hoping to do a Big Y in the near future :)