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MikeWhalen
01-24-2016, 02:44 PM
My neice asked me a testing question, and I figured I'd better ask you guys as I am not really familiar with this test/company

First, is AncestrybyDNA the same as AncestryDNA? I've learned to be cautious when the words are not the exact same

second, is this a good deal and what is it they are testing? mtdna? autosomal?
https://www.groupon.com/deals/ancestrybydna-ca-kingston?p=5&utm_source=newsletter_im&utm_medium=email&division=kingston&user=29bef7815214705cdc32e2208388ff6e11f34ea9dc8f7 165d8fd49067adf22ca&date=20160124&uu=73095330-b9ce-11e4-930e-002590980910&s=body&c=image&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=bdeb8b63-95c1-4e24-be96-09222df327bc_0_20160124_treatment1

http://ancestrybydna.com/dna-origins/

My niece is adopted. She has good contact and history of her mothers side, but is unsure which of several candidates is the father and that is the side she is most interested in. The moms side is French Canadian, not sure what else, the rumored best candidate on fathers side is a Canadian Native Indian, one of the other candidates might be native too
She is particularly interested in getting a test (but to be honest, as cheap as possible, unless I help her, which I would) that helps with her fathers side and/or explores any Native heritage
There is no possibility of getting a male from any of the possible father contenders to test, she does have a 2 yr old son, would it be of any use for him to get tested too...autosomal comparisons and such

BUT-I dont have much experience in working with the autosomal stuff and from my limited experiance, you have to work pretty hard yourself to tease out info-most, at least when I was dealing with the stuff was not packaged in a very friendly way and so was not much use...we need a user friendly type company

This deal is time limited, so I have to advise her shortly. It seems like its might be a good 'intro' kind of test, but I dont know if they give you the raw data so that you can manipulate it yourself
Is it a reputable company?
Given what my niece wants it for, (figure out unknown fathers ethnicity/heritige, but some interest in her moms too), is there any other test out there that will do a better job for similar price
Please do not recommend the the $500+ type tests...none of them are in the cards

Thanks for any help guys

Mike

gotten
01-24-2016, 02:54 PM
http://isogg.org/wiki/AncestrybyDNA

Sounds like a very limited test.

Poor reviews on Yelp: http://www.yelp.com/biz/ancestrybydna-fairfield

Gerlyons
01-24-2016, 03:22 PM
The article is from June 2014 but it might be helpful http://dna-explained.com/2014/06/19/10-things-to-do-with-your-dnaprint-renamed-ancestrybydna-test/

MikeWhalen
01-24-2016, 05:14 PM
that's good feedback guys, thanks very much!

anyone know what might be a good company for her needs?

thanks again!!

Mike

gotten
01-24-2016, 05:37 PM
I think AncestryDNA (http://dna.ancestry.com/) is the best match to her needs. They have excellent breakdown of autosomal DNA into geographical regions. Furthermore she can upload the raw data to gedmatch.com to also compare against a large part of the FTDNA database. It's also possible to transfer the data to FTDNA for a small fee. That way she can fish in two complete ponds.

Gerlyons
01-25-2016, 08:48 PM
You and your niece might want to review the information at http://dnaadoption.com/ for some insight on adoptions and DNA testing. They have information on current state laws and what information is available for adoptees as well as information about the different testing companies.

MikeWhalen
11-05-2016, 04:32 PM
bump

so I did not get this for my niece when I originally asked back in Jan. 2016,...some big item broke at their house and I got them a new one instead

so, she is still interested, what test out there now is the best for a female to take...she is interested in figuring out as an adoptee, who her fathers was and ethnicity would go a long way to helping with that...she is also interested in the ancient historical stuff, like what haplogroup she is, she knows her bio mom well (who is french canadian)

so ancestries 129 $can test was what got recommended the first time I asked this question...does it give the mtdna haplogroup?
https://www.ancestry.ca/dna/

any other good options...that are pretty cheap?

how about ftdna's family finder at 79 $US it will not give the haplogroup but would be good for the ethnicity and I could get her the 79 # mtdna test another time
https://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx

I have not kept up with all the new testing companies as I have a zillion of my own previous tests and only get something that is quite unique noow a days,

any advice is welcome, this will be her xmas present...unless the dishwasher dies or some damn thing

Mike

MissMelinda
11-10-2016, 04:04 AM
bump

so I did not get this for my niece when I originally asked back in Jan. 2016,...some big item broke at their house and I got them a new one instead

so, she is still interested, what test out there now is the best for a female to take...she is interested in figuring out as an adoptee, who her fathers was and ethnicity would go a long way to helping with that...she is also interested in the ancient historical stuff, like what haplogroup she is, she knows her bio mom well (who is french canadian)

so ancestries 129 $can test was what got recommended the first time I asked this question...does it give the mtdna haplogroup?
https://www.ancestry.ca/dna/

any other good options...that are pretty cheap?

how about ftdna's family finder at 79 $US it will not give the haplogroup but would be good for the ethnicity and I could get her the 79 # mtdna test another time
https://www.familytreedna.com/family-finder-compare.aspx

I have not kept up with all the new testing companies as I have a zillion of my own previous tests and only get something that is quite unique noow a days,

any advice is welcome, this will be her xmas present...unless the dishwasher dies or some damn thing

Mike


Hi Mike,

Groupon is offering the full AncestryDNA test at $69 right now. Great deal!

Hoping this helps!
Melinda

MissMelinda
11-10-2016, 02:48 PM
Hi Mike,

Groupon is offering the full AncestryDNA test at $69 right now. Great deal!

Hoping this helps!
Melinda



Hello Again,

In answer to the query regarding mtDNA, they are no longer offering this at Ancestry.com but here's what they say about the test offering mentioned in the groupon:

The AncestryDNA test uses microarray-based autosomal DNA testing, which surveys a person's entire genome at over 700,000 locations, all with a simple saliva sample. Additionally, the new online interface integrates state-of-the art tools for you to utilize your DNA results for family history research.

So - autosomal testing only, no mtDNA or Y-DNA testing is not available at this point. People who had test done in the past using these types with Ancestry.com are urged to move their test information off the Ancestry site to other gene banks and join projects.

I don't know if this would help your niece or no. Other gene testing sites offer the tests, but may be owned by Ancestry and shortly shut down. To add another wrench to the situation. Here is the list of Ancestry owned sites:

MyFamily
MyCanvas
Genealogy.com
Mundia
Ancestry.com

Other sites are charging a small fee to upload Ancestry materials, trees and tests.

MikeWhalen
11-10-2016, 03:39 PM
Thanks MissMelinda, that is usefull info

I think I will go the FTdna route...it gives me more testing options over time

thanks again

Mike

sktibo
11-13-2016, 11:18 AM
Ancestrybydna is arguably a scam that uses a similar name to AncestryDNA in order to get people to buy it on Groupon thinking it's a deal. My SO ordered two kits thinking it was Ancestry's, and had to fight hard to get our money back... Which she did do successfully. Even if you look at it from a perspective which takes it seriously, it's results are not correct.. it has only four categories, and they are very broad.. Europe, Americas, South Asia, and Africa IIRC. It gave me 100% Europe, which is incorrect, (every other test has successfully identified my native American component) and it gave my SO's mother a large South Asian percentage.. when she is actually a person of entirely European lineage.

The test I would recommend for your niece would be Ancestry DNA ... Not so much for the ethnicity prediction but because it has a very detailed relative finder system, showing family trees of people who your DNA matches with. 23andme would be good too.. the ethnicity prediction for any kit so far seems questionable but the relative finders on these things appear very solid, so i would base my choice on that if I were her.