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Angoliga
02-13-2016, 07:48 PM
I'd like to share and discuss results from other Africans, more particularly central East-Africans. Feel free to mention any interesting findings you noticed from your results.

Please also state your ethnicity and nationality along with your results from puntDNAL K8 African only:


My Parents nationality is Ugandan - Father is a Central-Sudanic speaker, Mother comes from a much smaller Eastern-Sudanic ethnicity rooted in the horn (hence the L3x2b mtDNA). It looks like they've completed assimilated among the Central-Sudanic speakers -- her results are almost identical to my father's -- minus the Western Semitic and S-HG.

Me:

puntDNAL K8 African only Oracle results:

puntDNAL K8b Oracle

Kit F410936

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Nilo_Saharan 46.03
2 W_Benue_Congo 24.3
3 E_Benue_Congo 13.51
4 Ubangian_Congo 9.71
5 Omotic 4.73
6 Eastern_HG 1.72

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chad_Bulala 14.09
2 Alur 16.69
3 South_Sudanese 25.52
4 Souh_Sudan_Anuak 25.95
5 Cameroon_Mada 28.33


Father's results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Nilo_Saharan 43.5
2 W_Benue_Congo 24.59
3 E_Benue_Congo 11.79
4 Omotic 6.97
5 Ubangian_Congo 6.84
6 Western_Semitic 4.52
7 Eastern_HG 1.79

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chad_Bulala 11.04
2 Alur 18.91
3 South_Sudanese 26.01
4 Cameroon_Mada 26.49
5 Souh_Sudan_Anuak 27.43


Mother:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Nilo_Saharan 46.12
2 W_Benue_Congo 23.13
3 E_Benue_Congo 13.73
4 Ubangian_Congo 10.1
5 Omotic 5.01
6 Southern_HG 1.15
7 Eastern_HG 0.51
8 Western_Semitic 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chad_Bulala 14.84
2 Alur 16.43
3 South_Sudanese 25.55
4 Souh_Sudan_Anuak 25.79
5 Cameroon_Mada 29.14

The Bulala from Chad also happen to be Nilo-Saharan speakers of the same branch; Central-Sudanic. This branch stretches in a belt from Lake Chad to Lake Albert in Uganda, these results imply that our genetic pool has more or less remained intact over the centuries. I'm still not sure on the dating of migration from West to East -- I wonder if it was due to the drying of Lake Chad and the surrounding Sahara.

I found the Congo clusters, W_Benue\E_Benue\Ubangian, to be very helpful in more specifically pinpointing similarities within the Oracle ethnic groups. Shout-out to the creator of puntDNAL!

drobbah
02-13-2016, 09:52 PM
1 Western_Semitic 42.88
2 Nilo_Saharan 29.63
3 Omotic 10.79
4 E_Benue_Congo 10.77
5 Ubangian_Congo 2.59
6 Southern_HG 2.19
7 Eastern_HG 1.14



# Population (source) Distance
1 Somali 6.01
2 Ethiopian_Oromo 9
3 Ethiopian_Afar 9.99
4 Ethiopian_Amhara 12.7
5 Ethiopian_Tygray 14.69
6 Ethiopian_Wolayta 25.51
7 Kenyan_Maasai 26.84

Lank
02-14-2016, 09:44 AM
Tigrinya Eritrean:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Western_Semitic 54.07
2 Nilo_Saharan 25.14
3 Omotic 9.24
4 E_Benue_Congo 8.85
5 Eastern_HG 2.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ethiopian_Afar 8.68
2 Ethiopian_Tygray 9.66
3 Ethiopian_Amhara 11.61
4 Somali 14.18
5 Ethiopian_Oromo 14.87
6 Algerian 32.62
7 Ethiopian_Wolayta 34.16
8 Mozabite 34.63
9 Libyan 34.94
10 S_Moroccan 35.06
11 Tunisian 37.2
12 N_Moroccan 37.67
13 Kenyan_Maasai 38.41
14 Egyptian 41.94
15 Nigeria_Fulani 46.8
16 Tanzania_Sandawe 52.25
17 DRC_Hema 54.11
18 Chad_Bulala 62.07
19 Ethiopian_AriCultivator 63.73
20 Alur 65.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.6% Somali + 24.4% Egyptian @ 4.4
2 72% Somali + 28% Libyan @ 4.49
3 54.1% Algerian + 45.9% Kenyan_Maasai @ 4.62
4 73.6% Somali + 26.4% N_Moroccan @ 4.66
5 70.7% Somali + 29.3% Algerian @ 4.71
6 50.8% Tunisian + 49.2% Kenyan_Maasai @ 4.73
7 52.4% Libyan + 47.6% Kenyan_Maasai @ 4.95
8 72.1% Somali + 27.9% Mozabite @ 5.01
9 73.5% Somali + 26.5% Tunisian @ 5.02
10 50.5% N_Moroccan + 49.5% Kenyan_Maasai @ 5.24
11 52.2% Kenyan_Maasai + 47.8% Egyptian @ 5.85
12 52.7% Mozabite + 47.3% Kenyan_Maasai @ 5.87
13 87.1% Ethiopian_Afar + 12.9% Egyptian @ 6.12
14 84.9% Ethiopian_Afar + 15.1% Libyan @ 6.17
15 86% Ethiopian_Afar + 14% N_Moroccan @ 6.25
16 84.3% Ethiopian_Afar + 15.7% Algerian @ 6.29
17 85.2% Ethiopian_Afar + 14.8% Mozabite @ 6.35
18 67.6% Algerian + 32.4% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 6.36
19 86.2% Ethiopian_Afar + 13.8% Tunisian @ 6.42
20 85.8% Ethiopian_Afar + 14.2% S_Moroccan @ 6.56

Angoliga
02-14-2016, 10:42 PM
Pardon my ignorance - Could anyone bring me up to speed on where\when horners inherited their Nilo-Saharan ancestry - Lank & drobbah, would you say your amount of Nilo-Saharan ancestry is consistent with other horners?

Is it generally believed to have been from the inter-mixture of Nilotic and Cushitic peoples in the Nile valley following the dry phase of the Sahara and development of Nile states ? That might explain some notable frequencies of the predominantly Nilotic A paternal haplogroup within the horn:

Haplogroup A frequencies
Africa
Study population Freq.
(in %)

Ethiopian Jews 41
Nara (Eritrea) 20 ...*the Nara are Nilo-Saharan speakers, so no surprise here
Amhara (Ethiopia) ~16
Oromo (Ethiopia) 10
South Semitic (Ethiopia) 10

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_A_(Y-DNA)

If these questions have already been discussed at length in another thread, please mention them here

Deftextra
02-15-2016, 12:06 PM
I have some none African ancestry in the genealogical time-frame from West&South Asia, so this calculator is not so accurate for me I guess (but still interesting).
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Western_Semitic 52.98
2 Omotic 12.8
3 Nilo_Saharan 12.35
4 E_Benue_Congo 8.15
5 W_Benue_Congo 7.89
6 Eastern_HG 3.03
7 Ubangian_Congo 2.76
8 Southern_HG 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ethiopian_Tygray 12.01
2 Ethiopian_Afar 14.76
3 Ethiopian_Amhara 15.08
4 Ethiopian_Oromo 18.97
5 Somali 21.53
6 S_Moroccan 28.85
7 Algerian 29.76
8 Mozabite 30.58
9 Libyan 31.66
10 Ethiopian_Wolayta 33.24
11 Tunisian 34.12
12 N_Moroccan 34.95
13 Nigeria_Fulani 38.75
14 Egyptian 39.71
15 Kenyan_Maasai 46.28
16 Tanzania_Sandawe 48.76
17 DRC_Hema 53.05
18 Ethiopian_AriCultivator 60.5
19 Chad_Bulala 62.85
20 Kenyan_Bantu 64.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% S_Moroccan + 46.3% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 6.21
2 61.5% Ethiopian_Oromo + 38.5% S_Moroccan @ 7.34
3 68.1% Ethiopian_Amhara + 31.9% S_Moroccan @ 7.58
4 75.4% Ethiopian_Tygray + 24.6% S_Moroccan @ 7.9
5 69.1% Ethiopian_Afar + 30.9% S_Moroccan @ 8
6 81.5% Ethiopian_Tygray + 18.5% Nigeria_Fulani @ 8.41
7 52.3% Mozabite + 47.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 8.6
8 63.5% Ethiopian_Oromo + 36.5% Mozabite @ 8.65
9 51.3% Libyan + 48.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 9.11
10 64.6% Ethiopian_Oromo + 35.4% Libyan @ 9.13
11 58.5% Somali + 41.5% S_Moroccan @ 9.37
12 63.3% Ethiopian_Oromo + 36.7% Algerian @ 9.65
13 80.5% Ethiopian_Tygray + 19.5% Mozabite @ 9.73
14 71.7% Ethiopian_Amhara + 28.3% Mozabite @ 9.82
15 72.4% Ethiopian_Afar + 27.6% Mozabite @ 9.83
16 66.8% Ethiopian_Oromo + 33.2% Tunisian @ 9.84
17 67.5% Ethiopian_Oromo + 32.5% N_Moroccan @ 9.96
18 92.4% Ethiopian_Tygray + 7.6% Ghana_Brong @ 9.99
19 92.5% Ethiopian_Tygray + 7.5% Nigeria_Yoruba @ 10.04
20 82% Ethiopian_Tygray + 18% Libyan @ 10.04

Lank
02-15-2016, 05:26 PM
Pardon my ignorance - Could anyone bring me up to speed on where\when horners inherited their Nilo-Saharan ancestry - Lank & drobbah, would you say your amount of Nilo-Saharan ancestry is consistent with other horners?

Is it generally believed to have been from the inter-mixture of Nilotic and Cushitic peoples in the Nile valley following the dry phase of the Sahara and development of Nile states ? That might explain some notable frequencies of the predominantly Nilotic A paternal haplogroup within the horn:

Haplogroup A frequencies
Africa
Study population Freq.
(in %)

Ethiopian Jews 41
Nara (Eritrea) 20 ...*the Nara are Nilo-Saharan speakers, so no surprise here
Amhara (Ethiopia) ~16
Oromo (Ethiopia) 10
South Semitic (Ethiopia) 10

Nilo-Saharan ancestry in this calculator is the best available proxy for the African ancestry of Cushitic people. It should be understood as "Nilo-Saharan-related" ancestry. It is unknown whether some of the African ancestors of Proto-Cushites spoke Nilo-Saharan, or if it was some other group that was related to Nilo-Saharans (some of the uniparental markers are old enough to support the latter scenario).

Once Cushites/"Horners" form their own ADMIXTURE component, nearly all of the "Nilo-Saharan" tends to disappear. The lack of recent Nilo-Saharan is supported by the observation that Y-DNA B is usually lacking in the Horn, but is fairly common in Nilo-Saharan speakers (~20% in the South Sudanese). Proto-Cushites are commonly believed to have migrated through North Sudan, where A-M13 but not B has been reported in ancient DNA.


@Deftextra: That's a fairly high Omotic score. Dunno if it may be skewed by your Asian ancestry, though.

puntDNALKing
02-16-2016, 07:32 PM
Hello all. I have received a lot of questions regarding the component names, since they are based on language, so I have decided to rename the components with proper geographical locations in order minimize confusion; I also expanded the oracle by including more populations from South Africa and West Africa. The total populations in the new K8 that will be released soon is 64. Here is a link to the spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_t61_foQgrJWEUtdlJaOUJqMWs/view?usp=sharing).

Angoliga
03-21-2016, 11:21 PM
Hello all. I have received a lot of questions regarding the component names, since they are based on language, so I have decided to rename the components with proper geographical locations in order minimize confusion; I also expanded the oracle by including more populations from South Africa and West Africa. The total populations in the new K8 that will be released soon is 64. Here is a link to the spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_t61_foQgrJWEUtdlJaOUJqMWs/view?usp=sharing).

Amazing work on the latest upgrade!

In regards to the African only model, do you you foresee additional clusters being added in the near future?
Similarly to the NK breakdown of bantu speakers (E Benue/W Benue/Ubangian), it would be interesting to see additional ancestral clusters for Nilo-Saharan and Afro-Asiatic speakers. Would the inclusion of Chadic and Central-Sudanic throw the calculator out of whack? I found mention of these clusters in a publication done by Tishkoff and others: "The Genetic Structure and History of Africans and African Americans" (2009) (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2947357/).

My knowledge regarding these calculators is humble at best but Western Semitic seems too broad a cluster for Afro-Asiatic speakers; their breakdown would be most interesting.

Of course with my ancestry being primarily from the Central-Sudanic branch of NS speakers, I'm extremely curious to see associations with other oracle populations in the Sahel and surrounding regions.



*... just realized my threads would've been better suited on the Autosomal (auDNA) forum :doh:

SWAHILLI_PRINCE16
06-28-2016, 11:05 PM
puntDNAL K8 African only Oracle results:

Interesting I've always thought my Western Semetic genes to have come from my Swahili side but this says its more from my Kikuyu maybe cushitic side inferring to the mixed population results.

puntDNAL K8b Oracle

Kit M707191

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Benue_Congo 36.08
2 W_Benue_Congo 35.4
3 Nilo_Saharan 10.28
4 Western_Semitic 6.66
5 Ubangian_Congo 6.02
6 Omotic 3.35
7 Eastern_HG 1.23
8 Southern_HG 0.97

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kenyan_Bantu 6
2 Cameroon_Fang 15.73
3 DRC_Kongo 16.06
4 SA_Pedi 16.79
5 SA_Nguni 17.74
6 Cameroon_Bamoun 18.36
7 Chad_Kaba 21.02
8 Kenyan_Luhya 21.24
9 Cameroon_Mada 22.95
10 Nigeria_Hausa 24.48
11 DRC_Hema 24.6
12 SA_Bantu 25.57
13 Mali_Mandinka 26.33
14 SA_Sotho/Tswana 26.53
15 SA_Xhosa 28.17
16 Alur 28.94
17 Nigeria_Igbo 31.73
18 Chad_Bulala 35.9
19 Nigeria_Yoruba 36.17
20 Nigeria_Fulani 36.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.8% DRC_Kongo + 39.2% DRC_Hema @ 3.34
2 57.5% Cameroon_Bamoun + 42.5% DRC_Hema @ 3.63
3 88.5% Kenyan_Bantu + 11.5% Nigeria_Fulani @ 3.7
4 78.4% Cameroon_Fang + 21.6% Kenyan_Maasai @ 3.9
5 94.8% Kenyan_Bantu + 5.2% S_Moroccan @ 4.18
6 50.1% Nigeria_Hausa + 49.9% DRC_Hema @ 4.46
7 95.6% Kenyan_Bantu + 4.4% Mozabite @ 4.5
8 95.7% Kenyan_Bantu + 4.3% Libyan @ 4.53
9 95.9% Kenyan_Bantu + 4.1% Tunisian @ 4.54
10 96.1% Kenyan_Bantu + 3.9% Egyptian @ 4.54
11 95.9% Kenyan_Bantu + 4.1% N_Moroccan @ 4.56
12 95.8% Kenyan_Bantu + 4.2% Algerian @ 4.65
13 59.8% DRC_Hema + 40.2% Nigeria_Yoruba @ 4.88
14 83.5% Kenyan_Bantu + 16.5% DRC_Kongo @ 5.2
15 90.5% Kenyan_Bantu + 9.5% Mali_Mandinka @ 5.36
16 56.6% DRC_Hema + 43.4% Nigeria_Igbo @ 5.37
17 92.1% Kenyan_Bantu + 7.9% Nigeria_Igbo @ 5.37
18 96.2% Kenyan_Bantu + 3.8% Ethiopian_Tygray @ 5.4
19 93.6% Kenyan_Bantu + 6.4% Ghana_Brong @ 5.4
20 51.8% DRC_Hema + 48.2% Mali_Mandinka @ 5.43

Tsakhur
10-14-2016, 07:00 PM
Hmm I would like to see how Copts, Bedouins, Saudi Arabians and Yemenite Jews will score in Puntdnal K8 even though they are mostly non-African genetically. From what I know Copts have substantial African ancestry from 7~9-15% with average around 10~12% (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8241-Post-ANE-K6-Results&p=178697&viewfull=1#post178697)with their African is an East African Nilo-Saharan/Nilotic type that peaks in Dinkas, Shilluks, Nuers, Muris, Suris, etc. Unlike other MENAs, they lack the West-Central African component.

The Copt's African ancestry is similar to those of Arabian populations like Bedouins, Saudi Arabians, Yemenite Jews and some Yemeni Muslims who can range from (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8241-Post-ANE-K6-Results&p=179024&viewfull=1#post179024)around 2~3 to 15% African (http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8241-Post-ANE-K6-Results&p=179026&viewfull=1#post179026)(some Arabians is said to have around 15% East African Nilote)with most average around 6~10% SSA (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kd9Q9vFrL1Cra9ayqMYVFKXrUdnThmQJVMtjczLhoTs/edit#gid=74932529) (based on the spreadsheets in K8) also of only East African Nilotic/Nilo-Saharan component.

Rwaka
06-18-2019, 12:41 PM
Tutsi from Rwanda

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Benue_Congo 26.08
2 Nilo_Saharan 23.68
3 Western_Semitic 20.78
4 W_Benue_Congo 12.68
5 Omotic 8.46
6 Eastern_HG 4.25
7 Southern_HG 2.65
8 Ubangian_Congo 1.43


Finished reading population data. 48 populations found.
8 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 DRC_Hema @ 20.490513
2 Tanzania_Sandawe @ 27.699347
3 Alur @ 29.033058
4 Kenyan_Bantu @ 32.209332
5 Kenyan_Maasai @ 32.578537
6 Somali @ 33.424686
7 Ethiopian_Oromo @ 33.811584
8 Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 34.227894
9 Chad_Bulala @ 35.227085
10 Ethiopian_Afar @ 37.181648
11 Kenyan_Luhya @ 37.215775
12 Cameroon_Mada @ 38.784069
13 Ethiopian_Amhara @ 38.866535
14 Nigeria_Fulani @ 39.665508
15 Ethiopian_Tygray @ 40.412773
16 SA_Nguni @ 42.004105
17 SA_Pedi @ 42.260975
18 SA_Xhosa @ 42.325775
19 SA_Bantu @ 43.206264
20 SA_Sotho/Tswana @ 44.290813

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ethiopian_Oromo +50% Kenyan_Luhya @ 5.615086


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ethiopian_Oromo +25% Kenyan_Bantu +25% Kenyan_Luhya @ 5.142712


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ethiopian_Afar + Chad_Bulala + DRC_Hema + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 3.329687
2 Chad_Bulala + DRC_Hema + Tanzania_Sandawe + Somali @ 3.401724
3 Ethiopian_Gumuz + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya + Mozabite @ 3.430821
4 Chad_Bulala + Ethiopian_Oromo + DRC_Hema + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 3.567400
5 Ethiopian_Tygray + Kenyan_Bantu + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Maasai @ 3.616987
6 Ethiopian_Gumuz + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya + N_Moroccan @ 3.626024
7 Ethiopian_Gumuz + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya + Tunisian @ 3.727101
8 Ethiopian_Gumuz + Libyan + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya @ 3.734345
9 Ethiopian_Amhara + Kenyan_Bantu + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Maasai @ 3.802122
10 Algerian + Ethiopian_Gumuz + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya @ 3.810855
11 Souh_Sudan_Anuak + Kenyan_Luhya + S_Moroccan + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 3.920839
12 Egyptian + Ethiopian_Gumuz + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Luhya @ 4.013537
13 Chad_Bulala + Ethiopian_Amhara + DRC_Hema + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 4.023827
14 Kenyan_Bantu + Kenyan_Luhya + Somali + Somali @ 4.140469
15 Chad_Bulala + Ethiopian_Tygray + DRC_Hema + Tanzania_Sandawe @ 4.170093
16 Ethiopian_Oromo + DRC_Hema + Kenyan_Maasai + SA_Pedi @ 4.218752
17 Ethiopian_Afar + Kenyan_Bantu + Kenyan_Luhya + Kenyan_Maasai @ 4.294745
18 Cameroon_Fang + Kenyan_Maasai + Tanzania_Sandawe + Somali @ 4.303418
19 Ethiopian_Amhara + Cameroon_Fang + DRC_Hema + Kenyan_Maasai @ 4.321100
20 Ethiopian_Amhara + DRC_Hema + Kenyan_Maasai + SA_Pedi @ 4.324623

Espoir
06-22-2019, 07:40 AM
Banyamulenge from Congo.

My brother
1 Nilo_Saharan 32.85
2 Western_Semitic 23.78
3 E_Benue_Congo 18.70
4 Omotic 9.41
5 W_Benue_Congo 5.67
6 Southern_HG 4.21
7 Ubangian_Congo 3.52
8 Eastern_HG 1.85


Finished reading population data. 48 populations found.
8 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kenyan_Maasai @ 19.661770
2 Somali @ 24.189014
3 Ethiopian_Oromo @ 25.955456
4 Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 27.621225
5 Ethiopian_Afar @ 30.269876
6 DRC_Hema @ 31.804939
7 Ethiopian_Amhara @ 32.046204
8 Alur @ 32.487366
9 Ethiopian_Tygray @ 34.575268
10 Tanzania_Sandawe @ 35.393353
11 Chad_Bulala @ 35.932510
12 Kenyan_Bantu @ 44.632790
13 Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 44.667698
14 Cameroon_Mada @ 46.326893
15 Nigeria_Fulani @ 47.437347
16 South_Sudanese @ 48.602661
17 Souh_Sudan_Anuak @ 49.016792
18 Kenyan_Luhya @ 49.230827
19 Ethiopian_AriCultivator @ 50.311993
20 SA_Xhosa @ 52.928062

Myself

# Population Percent
1 Nilo_Saharan 26.60
2 Western_Semitic 23.98
3 E_Benue_Congo 19.14
4 Omotic 10.83
5 W_Benue_Congo 9.62
6 Ubangian_Congo 6.19
7 Eastern_HG 3.54


Finished reading population data. 48 populations found.
8 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Somali @ 26.029877
2 Ethiopian_Oromo @ 26.464191
3 Kenyan_Maasai @ 27.440029
4 Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 27.541241
5 DRC_Hema @ 29.048946
6 Ethiopian_Afar @ 30.496830
7 Alur @ 31.833185
8 Ethiopian_Amhara @ 31.854805
9 Tanzania_Sandawe @ 32.311386
10 Ethiopian_Tygray @ 34.026291
11 Chad_Bulala @ 36.008091
12 Kenyan_Bantu @ 40.073902
13 Nigeria_Fulani @ 41.506237
14 Cameroon_Mada @ 42.893784
15 Kenyan_Luhya @ 46.073368
16 Ethiopian_AriCultivator @ 48.769756
17 SA_Nguni @ 49.574631
18 Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 49.780010
19 SA_Xhosa @ 50.150814
20 SA_Pedi @ 50.335690


I got a question! @NiloSaharan, Whatís up with this Eastern Benue Congo? Did you figure it out? Is it standing for eastern Bantu?

I see Horners have it too! @Lank u know what it is?

Also, how is it possible that I cluster closer to horners than Kenyan pastoralists?! I donít get it. Anyone know which Masai is being used?!

Angoliga
06-22-2019, 01:47 PM
I got a question! @NiloSaharan, Whatís up with this Eastern Benue Congo? Did you figure it out? Is it standing for eastern Bantu?

I see Horners have it too! @Lank u know what it is?

Also, how is it possible that I cluster closer to horners than Kenyan pastoralists?! I donít get it. Anyone know which Masai is being used?!

Good question, try reaching out to the creator "PuntdnalKing" -- though he hasn't been that active on the forum these days.

Here's a cut-out of the calc's spreadsheet with E Benue Congo filtered highest to lowest:

https://i.imgur.com/MbJDKh7.png

I wouldn't take it too literal -- I think it was modeled out of East/South-African Bantu pops, the non-neglible affinity in horners is probably mistaken East-African alleles in these groups : EHG, AEA, Omotic, Cushitic-like

It's your higher Omotic combined with Nilo_Saharan/Western_Semitic that's probably making you a slightly better fit for horners than the Masai.

mpatsibihugu89
07-29-2019, 09:52 PM
Good question, try reaching out to the creator "PuntdnalKing" -- though he hasn't been that active on the forum these days.

Here's a cut-out of the calc's spreadsheet with E Benue Congo filtered highest to lowest:

https://i.imgur.com/MbJDKh7.png

I wouldn't take it too literal -- I think it was modeled out of East/South-African Bantu pops, the non-neglible affinity in horners is probably mistaken East-African alleles in these groups : EHG, AEA, Omotic, Cushitic-like

It's your higher Omotic combined with Nilo_Saharan/Western_Semitic that's probably making you a slightly better fit for horners than the Masai.

that Eastern benue probably has some west eurasian+nilosaharan all included in the eastern bantu cluster.