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XooR
02-15-2016, 01:08 AM
The Kurgan hypothesis is dead

https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/the-kurgan-hypothesis-is-dead/

Generalissimo
02-15-2016, 02:27 AM
Yes, as dead as a Dodo.

But please keep in mind that the Dodo will, at some point, be brought back to life from museum skins. So there's always that.

ffoucart
02-15-2016, 07:02 AM
Is it a joke?

The autosomal data show a clear input from the Yamna (or a similar population). The question about R1a or R1b is more complexe but can be explained with a substructure in the Yamna themselves.

About Y dna, at least one R1b L23 has been found:
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3680-Yamna-Yamnaya-Y-DNA/page22

Megalophias
02-15-2016, 03:56 PM
Genetiker believes that the Yamnaya component is in fact a Gravettian component, while WHG (with hg I) is an Aurignacian component. Hence descendants of the Epigravettian in Eastern Europe (carrying R1a) and certain post-Gravettian hunter-gatherers in Western Europe (carrying R1b) are related. Needless to say most people think he is out to lunch.