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Barellalee
02-24-2016, 04:45 AM
I'm Posting this as a follow up from another Post. On my Maternal Side, there is R1b L23, from Avellino Province, Italy, with Medieval roots in the Salerno Province. Obviously further Testing would be needed, but I'm aware the money is on that they are one of the Z2103 or Z2105 Subclades. What is the current knowledge on these Branches, specifically the origins of their presence in South Italy?

Joe B
02-26-2016, 07:19 PM
R1b-Z2103 has become a rather broad subject. Many subclades have been found. There is also the possiblity of him being R1b-PF7562 (L23+, L150-, Z2103-, L51-) Please have your relative join the R1b-M269 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (aka ht35 Project) if he has not already.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/background
http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?147-R1b-Z2103-Z2105
http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?51-R1b-Early-Subclades

Barellalee
03-01-2016, 08:12 AM
R1b-Z2103 has become a rather broad subject. Many subclades have been found. There is also the possiblity of him being R1b-PF7562 (L23+, L150-, Z2103-, L51-) Please have your relative join the R1b-M269 (P312- U106-) DNA Project (aka ht35 Project) if he has not already.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ht-3-5new/about/background
http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?147-R1b-Z2103-Z2105
http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?51-R1b-Early-Subclades

Thanks, I agree it is an interesting and complex subject. Many have told me it is due to Greek Colonization, but as we see it too widespread to be due only just to that. From Tuscany, to Umbria, to Abruzzo.