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Kurd
03-28-2016, 03:52 AM
I had previously analyzed Kurd-Baloch similarity using formal stats. The results had shown the them to be a near clade using qpAdm. The analysis however was performed using the HGDP Baloch samples as a group. Therefore, the results reflected the average of the HGDP Baloch samples.

Since the historical accounts of the Baloch migrations from NW Iran had named certain Baloch tribes as having Kurd ancestry, I figured if I broke down the HGDP Baloch group up, and analyzed each Baloch sample separately against a Kurd sample, I should theoretically be able to identify the individual Baloch samples most likely associated with tribes having Kurd ancestry.

The work paid off, since I was able to identify quite a few samples that had great fits when modeled as exclusively Kurd, or Kurd + S Asian. The choices I made available to qpAdm were Pathans, since they neighbor Baloch areas in Pakistan, and Pulliyar and Ho, since other analysis had shown Indian admixture in Baloch.

To my surprise, some Baloch samples had great fits as 100% Kurd C2 (an Iraqi Kurd sample), something I have never seen before using qpAdm. Forthcoming analysis will include other Kurd samples, such as Turkish Kurds. Hopefully, this will convince some members who are still skeptical about the Kurd-Baloch connection. I realize there will still be a few who don't believe in qpAdm or dstats. I am hoping to convince those when I do the IBS comparison later, one HGDP Baloch sample at a time.

Here are the qpAdm results. I am also posting the actual qpAdm output for a couple of the samples, so that you get an idea of the rt pops used. I can provide the raw output of the remainder upon request. Dstats, and comparison with other Kurds to follow over the next couple of weeks

The table is sorted with the best fits on top. Again for those not familiar, the lower the chisq value, and the higher the tail prob, the better the fit




HGDP Modeling of Baloch using QpAdm


No
Balochi Sample
Kurd C2
Pathan
Ho
Pulliyar
Chisq
Tail Probability


1
Balochi 17- HGDP00092
86.40%
0.00%
0.00%
13.60%
0.112
99.00%


2
Balochi 14- HGDP00086
96.50%
0.00%
3.50%
0.00%
0.24
97.10%


3
Balochi 20- HGDP00098
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.436
98.00%


4
Balochi 3- HGDP00056
63.60%
0.00%
10.70%
25.80%
0.58
75.00%


5
Balochi 6- HGDP00064
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.599
96.30%


6
Balochi 18- HGDP00094
51.70%
48.30%
0.00%
0.00%
0.602
89.60%


7
Balochi 10- HGDP00074
80.10%
0.00%
0.00%
19.90%
0.618
89.20%


8
Balochi 13- HGDP00082
86.70%
0.00%
13.30%
0.00%
0.792
85.10%


9
Balochi 12- HGDP00080
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
1.106
89.30%


10
Balochi-9- HGDP00072
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
1.345
85.30%


11
Balochi 7- HGDP00066
98.20%
0.00%
0.00%
1.80%
1.675
64.20%


12
Balochi 19- HGDP00096
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
1.772
77.80%


13
Balochi 15- HGDP00088
100.00%
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
1.934
74.80%

Kurd
03-28-2016, 03:56 AM
In the interest of transparency I am posting a couple of raw qpAdm outputs. Others are available upon request.

left pops:
Balochi6
.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Ho
Palliyar

right pops:
MbutiPygmy
Ami
Papuan
Karitiana
Ulchi

0 Balochi6 1
1 .Kurd_C2 1
2 Pathan 19
3 Ho 5
4 Palliyar 5
5 MbutiPygmy 10
6 Ami 10
7 Papuan 14
8 Karitiana 12
9 Ulchi 25
jackknife block size: 0.050
snps: 530595 indivs: 102
number of blocks for block jackknife: 711
dof (jackknife): 620.343
numsnps used: 46016
codimension 1
f4info:
f4rank: 3 dof: 1 chisq: 0.302 tail: 0.582909453 dofdiff: 3 chisqdiff: -0.302 taildiff: 1
B:
scale 1.000 1.000 1.000
Ami 1.176 0.389 -1.358
Papuan 1.056 -1.400 0.812
Karitiana 0.602 1.365 1.222
Ulchi 1.067 0.165 0.069
A:
scale 187.258 2639.553 5667.125
.Kurd_C2 0.018 -0.368 -0.028
Pathan 0.421 0.876 1.753
Ho 1.658 0.748 -0.619
Palliyar 1.036 -1.593 0.737


full rank 1
f4info:
f4rank: 4 dof: 0 chisq: 0.000 tail: 1 dofdiff: 1 chisqdiff: 0.302 taildiff: 0.582909453
B:
scale 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
Ami 1.171 0.402 -1.420 0.672
Papuan 1.053 -1.383 0.771 0.620
Karitiana 0.599 1.380 1.171 0.605
Ulchi 1.077 0.149 0.139 -1.673
A:
scale 188.603 2643.165 5964.767 21253.834
.Kurd_C2 0.001 -0.350 -0.304 -1.946
Pathan 0.415 0.894 1.688 -0.424
Ho 1.661 0.762 -0.814 -0.009
Palliyar 1.035 -1.581 0.629 0.186


best coefficients: 0.993 0.098 0.057 -0.149
ssres:
-0.000098217 -0.000197249 -0.000153836 0.000056998
-0.715045820 -1.436030502 -1.119970537 0.414960082

Jackknife mean: 0.791785670 0.316863119 -0.013426223 -0.095222567
std. errors: 0.634 0.700 0.319 0.391

error covariance (* 1000000)
402480 -431069 150145 -121556
-431069 489804 -139612 80877
150145 -139612 101491 -112024
-121556 80877 -112024 152703


fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
0000 0 1 0.302 0 0.993 0.098 0.057 -0.149 infeasible
0001 1 2 0.465 0 0.900 0.147 -0.047 0.000 infeasible
0010 1 2 0.338 0 0.913 0.171 0.000 -0.084 infeasible
0100 1 2 0.321 0 1.079 -0.000 0.085 -0.164 infeasible
1000 1 2 4.955 0 -0.000 1.147 -0.333 0.186 infeasible
0011 2 3 0.574 0 1.053 -0.053 0.000 -0.000 infeasible
0101 2 3 0.513 0 1.021 0.000 -0.021 0.000 infeasible
0110 2 3 0.434 0 1.043 0.000 0.000 -0.043 infeasible
1001 2 3 5.466 0 -0.000 1.228 -0.228 -0.000 infeasible
1010 2 3 9.185 0 -0.000 1.318 0.000 -0.318 infeasible
1100 2 3 34.392 0 -0.000 0.000 -1.643 2.643 infeasible
0111 3 4 0.599 0.963221 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
1011 3 4 18.369 0.00104529 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000
1101 3 4 296.027 0 0.000 0.000 1.000 -0.000
1110 3 4 127.569 1.28862e-26 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000
best pat: 0000 0 - -
best pat: 0001 0 chi(nested): 0.164 p-value for nested model: 0.685859
best pat: 0011 0 chi(nested): 0.109 p-value for nested model: 0.741339
best pat: 0111 0.963221 chi(nested): 0.024 p-value for nested model: 0.875692

Kurd
03-28-2016, 04:02 AM
left pops:
Balochi20
.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Ho
Palliyar

right pops:
MbutiPygmy
Ami
Papuan
Karitiana
Ulchi

0 Balochi20 1
1 .Kurd_C2 1
2 Pathan 19
3 Ho 5
4 Palliyar 5
5 MbutiPygmy 10
6 Ami 10
7 Papuan 14
8 Karitiana 12
9 Ulchi 25
jackknife block size: 0.050
snps: 530595 indivs: 102
number of blocks for block jackknife: 711
dof (jackknife): 620.079
numsnps used: 46012
codimension 1
f4info:
f4rank: 3 dof: 1 chisq: 0.194 tail: 0.65935894 dofdiff: 3 chisqdiff: -0.194 taildiff: 1
B:
scale 1.000 1.000 1.000
Ami 1.194 0.311 -1.297
Papuan 1.037 -1.342 0.934
Karitiana 0.626 1.441 1.181
Ulchi 1.053 0.156 -0.227
A:
scale 197.029 2664.597 6270.375
.Kurd_C2 -0.057 0.014 -0.687
Pathan 0.376 1.171 1.431
Ho 1.676 0.691 -1.001
Palliyar 1.022 -1.466 0.692


full rank 1
f4info:
f4rank: 4 dof: 0 chisq: 0.000 tail: 1 dofdiff: 1 chisqdiff: 0.194 taildiff: 0.65935894
B:
scale 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
Ami 1.199 0.303 -1.231 -0.978
Papuan 1.039 -1.353 0.975 -0.373
Karitiana 0.628 1.435 1.206 -0.305
Ulchi 1.044 0.136 -0.282 1.677
A:
scale 196.663 2673.072 6157.084 27920.088
.Kurd_C2 -0.052 -0.049 -0.465 -1.944
Pathan 0.378 1.141 1.546 -0.409
Ho 1.676 0.659 -0.858 0.143
Palliyar 1.023 -1.504 0.811 -0.184


best coefficients: 0.751 0.221 -0.106 0.134
ssres:
0.000033314 0.000099363 0.000036899 -0.000087581
0.470963790 1.404683097 0.521641478 -1.238123045

Jackknife mean: 0.615627191 0.357652536 -0.161482922 0.188203195
std. errors: 0.570 0.622 0.289 0.360

error covariance (* 1000000)
324766 -343569 123857 -105054
-343569 387150 -113398 69818
123857 -113398 83596 -94055
-105054 69818 -94055 129291


fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
0000 0 1 0.194 0 0.751 0.221 -0.106 0.134 infeasible
0001 1 2 0.325 0 0.865 0.143 -0.008 0.000 infeasible
0010 1 2 0.320 0.852284 0.911 0.074 0.000 0.015
0100 1 2 0.309 0 0.947 -0.000 -0.043 0.096 infeasible
1000 1 2 2.772 0 -0.000 1.019 -0.406 0.387 infeasible
0011 2 3 0.328 0.954639 0.889 0.111 0.000 -0.000
0101 2 3 0.374 0.945583 0.982 0.000 0.018 0.000
0110 2 3 0.339 0.95249 0.967 0.000 0.000 0.033
1001 2 3 4.786 0 0.000 1.183 -0.183 -0.000 infeasible
1010 2 3 8.242 0 0.000 1.219 -0.000 -0.219 infeasible
1100 2 3 29.239 0 -0.000 0.000 -1.541 2.541 infeasible
0111 3 4 0.436 0.979399 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
1011 3 4 12.476 0.014139 0.000 1.000 0.000 0.000
1101 3 4 260.716 0 0.000 0.000 1.000 -0.000
1110 3 4 118.855 9.38033e-25 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000
best pat: 0000 0 - -
best pat: 0010 0.852284 chi(nested): 0.125 p-value for nested model: 0.723283
best pat: 0011 0.954639 chi(nested): 0.009 p-value for nested model: 0.926395
best pat: 0111 0.979399 chi(nested): 0.108 p-value for nested model: 0.742335

Kurd
03-28-2016, 05:28 AM
Dstats for Balochi sample HGDP00098 confirm the above, showing that Kurd C2 shares the longest drift path (highest similarity)with Balochi compared to all the listed W/SC/S Asian populations. The table is sorted with the most similar populations to Balochi (after Kurd C2) on top.



L1
L2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Pathan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0103
-2.062
104365


GujaratiA
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0108
-2.019
104365


GujaratiB
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0117
-2.136
104365


Armenian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0124
-2.402
104365


Sindhi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.013
-2.658
104365


Tajik_Pomiri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0131
-2.576
104365


Turkish
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.014
-2.585
104365


Pashtun_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.014
-2.592
98770


Tajik
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0153
-2.952
98839


GujaratiC
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0155
-2.809
104365


Iranian_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0155
-2.932
104365


Iranian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0164
-3.16
104365


Azeri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0164
-2.928
60882


Iraqi_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0178
-3.287
104365


Makrani
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0179
-3.619
104365


Druze
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0185
-3.683
104365


GujaratiD
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0199
-3.726
104365


Tajik_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0205
-3.861
98770


Saudi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0354
-6.696
104365


Syrian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.037
-7.237
104365


Jordanian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0376
-7.388
104365


Palliyar
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0427
-5.555
40878


Paniyas
.Kurd_C2
Balochi20-HGDP00098
Gorilla
-0.0468
-5.745
40878

Kurd
03-28-2016, 05:36 AM
The comparison of Balochi HGDP00064 shows the same as above, with Kurd C2 sharing the longest total drift path with Balochi, yet again confirmation of the qpAdm results above. Sorted with most similar to HGDP00064 (after Kurd C2) on top.



L1
L2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Armenian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0062
-1.242
104354


Iranian_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0081
-1.62
104354


Pathan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0107
-2.216
104354


Iraqi_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0112
-2.197
104354


Turkish
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0114
-2.151
104354


Tajik_Pomiri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0116
-2.33
104354


Iranian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0123
-2.423
104354


Makrani
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0125
-2.588
104354


Azeri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0135
-2.441
60875


Sindhi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0137
-2.872
104354


Pashtun_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0141
-2.644
98754


GujaratiA
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0147
-2.833
104354


GujaratiB
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0149
-2.794
104354


Druze
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0159
-3.23
104354


Tajik
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0165
-3.287
98823


GujaratiC
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0195
-3.698
104354


Tajik_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0216
-4.1
98754


GujaratiD
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0255
-4.946
104354


Saudi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0288
-5.463
104354


Syrian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0313
-6.018
104354


Jordanian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0321
-6.474
104354


Palliyar
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0495
-6.607
40869


Paniyas
.Kurd_C2
Balochi6-HGDP00064
Gorilla
-0.0525
-6.69
40869

Kurd
03-28-2016, 05:47 AM
Dstat comparison with Balochi sample HGDP00086 also confirms the above with Kurd C2 sharing the longest total drift path with Balochi (highest similarity) than all the listed W/SC/S Asian groups. Table sorted with the most similar to Balochi (after Kurd C2) on top.



L1
L2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Armenian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0052
-1.086
104602


Pathan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0058
-1.219
104602


Tajik_Pomiri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0061
-1.255
104602


Pashtun_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0068
-1.323
98990


Makrani
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0068
-1.458
104602


Iranian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.602
104602


Turkish
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.526
104602


GujaratiA
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0082
-1.612
104602


GujaratiB
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0082
-1.6
104602


Sindhi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0087
-1.848
104602


Tajik
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0096
-1.963
99059


Azeri
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0108
-1.98
61007


Iranian_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0112
-2.272
104602


Druze
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.012
-2.509
104602


Iraqi_Jew
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0127
-2.575
104602


Tajik_Afghan
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0153
-3.036
98990


GujaratiC
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0162
-3.166
104602


GujaratiD
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0171
-3.365
104602


Syrian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0299
-6.013
104602


Saudi
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0321
-6.238
104602


Jordanian
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0328
-6.63
104602


Palliyar
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0403
-5.291
40964


Paniyas
.Kurd_C2
Balochi14-HGDP0086
Gorilla
-0.0493
-6.356
40964

Halgurd
03-28-2016, 02:58 PM
Was just wondering what 'Baloch' means? Do you think it may have something to do with some Kurdish tribes, like mine, with the names Balak and Belikan?

Kurd
03-28-2016, 06:22 PM
Was just wondering what 'Baloch' means? Do you think it may have something to do with some Kurdish tribes, like mine, with the names Balak and Belikan?

No one knows for sure, although many believe that it refers to the cock's comb helmets they used to wear in battle.

Kurd
03-28-2016, 06:45 PM
I would like to take a minute to elaborate a little on the term "total shared drift path" that I use in dstats, since some may not be sure what that means. It basically refers to total amount of alleles shared by 2 samples, prior to the 2 samples splitting from each other. So in dstats of the form D(L1, L2, Target, Out), according to Nick Patterson, mutations arising after the split of L1/L2 and the Target are not counted towards the score.

In the dstat table above comparing various groups with Balochi, the Arab groups and Indian groups towards the bottom of the table share the least drift with Balochi. One way that can occur in a simplistic example assuming Arabs, Iranians, Kurds, Baloch, and SC Asians derive from one population, represented by the main trunk of the tree (not a valid assumption), would be Arabs branching off the trunk first. One by one other populations start branching off the further up you go on the trunk of the tree (represented by time), until you get to the top of the tree, where Kurd C2 and Balochi's ancestors split from each other.

In the more realistic scenario of samples deriving from multiple pops, total shared drift would be proportional to the amount of alleles shared by the 2 samples due to them deriving from the same ancestral populations.

The discrepancy between dstats and ADMIXTURE arises, because dstats consider total shared drift path, which considers events and shared ancestry much further back in time, whereas ADMIXTURE is based on clustering based on more recent drift. Companies such as 23andMe and Ancestry which base their results on haplotype sharing convey events that are even more recent than ADMIXTURE.

Kurd
04-04-2016, 02:56 AM
UPDATE:

I will be posting addtional dstat tables by tomorrow comparing individual members against samples Baloch 1 thru Baloch 20. The comparisons are of the form
D(Member, Pathan, Baloch 1-20, Outgroup). I used Pathan in the comparison with various members since they tend to be geographically closest to Baloch as well as share some recent genetic drift with them.

In theory there is no reason for W Asian members to be genetically more similar (share more drift) with Baloch than Pathans, unless of course Baloch have migrated to their present locations from W Asia relatively recently (1000 - 2000 years ago). It is expected that there is recent geneflow between Pathan and Baloch due to geography. The question is whether the ancestral connection between W Asians is so strong to counteract the recent geneflow from Pathan or Punjabi, and thus tilt the Dstat in favor of the W Asians. Actually, Pathans share both W Asian and some recent drift with Baloch, so they will be difficult to top by W Asians.

I am done with the Kurds, but am holding off posting until I run a few non Kurd W Asians. Some interesting patterns here too. Expectedly, there is some variation among the Kurd samples, with some Kurd samples sharing more drift with Baloch than others.

Also, there are 4 new additions to the project, Halgurd (Iraqi Kurd), Ashwin (Indian), Punjabi Pahari (Pakistan), and Krefter.

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:26 AM
The following tables took a couple of days longer than I had anticipated to put together (for those unaware quite bit of time is involved with putting these together).

These comparisons, comparing various members with Pathan against Baloch are based on Dstats, and the results are not necessarily consistent with ADMIXTURE results for the following reasons:

1- Allele frequencies resulting from recent genetic drift drive ADMIXTURE results, whereas,
2- Total shared ancestry (drift) drives Dstat results. For example, if a population with a substantial part of its ancestry from Africa or E Asia migrated to Balochistan 500 years ago, and mixed a little with Baloch, ADMIXTURE may show an elevated "Baloch" component, but Dstats, which reflect the total shared ancestry will pick up on the substantial elevated "old" African or E Asian admixture, and show a reduced D result in the comparison.

The following factors tend to contribute to a higher positive D result, and thus greater similarity with the Pakistani Baloch samples:

1- Elevated ancient and recent shared Caucausus admixture with Baloch prior to Baloch easterly migration from the NW Iran area;
2- More recent admixture with Baloch post easterly migration of the Baloch to their current geographic location in Pakistan.

The following factors tend to contribute to a higher negative D result, and thus less similarity with the Pakistani Baloch samples:

1- Elevated African admixture;
2- Elevated E Asian admixture;
3- Elevated WHG

Each row in the tables is a comparison with an individual HGDP Pakistani Baloch sample. For decoding the sample IDs please refer to my previous posts. Rows shaded green indicate that the member has greater similarity to that specific Baloch sample than Pathan, and rows shaded red indicate that Pathan has greater similarity to that Baloch sample than the member.

I have also come up with a new method to get an idea of "Balochiness" if you will. I have added all the scores from the individual comparisons, and shown them in the last row as total. A total shaded green shows greater similarity to ALL the Baloch samples in general than Pathan. Red shows the opposite.

The bar has intentionally been set high by using Pakistani Pashtun (Pathan) samples, who are Baloch neighbors, against the member in the comparisons. Thus a red row simply indicates less similarity than Pathan to Baloch, and not necessarily low Baloch similarity. Pathans share both substantial ancient and recent admixture with Baloch. Should I have used Punjabi instead of Pathans in the comparisons, then likely more members would have received more "green" rows.

Various Kurd, W/SC/S Asian results will be posted. From the current comparisons, the lowest total genetic similarity with Baloch went to Syrians, and the highest to Kurd SE. Most viewers will be surprised by the lower scores received by Makranis. I believe the reason to be slightly divergent ancient Baloch-Makrani drift histories (Old African into Makrani).

Here are the results, posted somewhat from lowest similarity with Baloch (compared to Pathan-Baloch) to highest similarity with Pakistani Baloch.



SYRIAN - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0252
-10.716
104764


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.021
-8.63
104922


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0298
-13.091
104833


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0271
-11.417
104923


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0197
-8.171
104854


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0202
-8.164
104624


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0245
-9.809
104902


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0263
-11.479
104283


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0272
-11.606
104251


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0229
-9.341
104869


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0226
-9.746
104468


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0231
-9.801
104834


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0259
-11.005
104620


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0236
-9.454
104874


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0243
-10.224
103145


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0315
-12.534
104204


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0258
-10.542
104883


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.025
-11.027
104855


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0287
-12.468
104860


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0263
-11.288
104635


SYRIAN
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.5007
-210.513

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:28 AM
REZA - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0235
-5.027
104008


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0152
-3.267
104166


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0097
-2.072
104079


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0119
-2.592
104166


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0202
-4.427
104098


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0204
-4.314
103874


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0134
-2.796
104145


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0132
-2.854
103532


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0187
-4.083
103499


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0215
-4.516
104114


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.02
-4.331
103721


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0165
-3.502
104079


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0238
-5.039
103867


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0217
-4.536
104118


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0164
-3.319
102408


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0121
-2.595
103458


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0074
-1.556
104126


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0123
-2.566
104098


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.017
-3.839
104106


.Reza1
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0127
-2.613
103880


REZA
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.3276
-69.844

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:29 AM
MAKRANI - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0047
-2.724
104764


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0032
-1.839
104922


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0069
-4.141
104833


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0065
-3.84
104923


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0034
-2.058
104854


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0018
-1.012
104624


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0029
-1.763
104902


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0064
-3.707
104283


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0044
-2.714
104251


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0016
-0.955
104869


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0047
-2.889
104468


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0039
-2.358
104834


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0066
-4.097
104620


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.625
104874


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0048
-2.858
103145


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0087
-5.29
104204


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0061
-3.567
104883


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0064
-3.922
104855


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0076
-4.654
104860


Makrani
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0077
-4.712
104635


MAKRANI
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.0993
-59.725

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:31 AM
JESUS - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0279
-5.402
104241


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0151
-2.896
104398


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0275
-5.616
104310


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0218
-4.282
104399


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0157
-3.081
104330


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0145
-2.762
104106


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0227
-4.409
104379


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0233
-4.73
103761


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0237
-4.593
103731


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0225
-4.358
104346


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0212
-4.215
103949


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0232
-4.57
104310


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0188
-3.774
104098


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.023
-4.493
104351


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0194
-3.905
102628


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0291
-5.691
103685


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0202
-3.928
104361


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0232
-4.621
104332


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0249
-4.94
104336


.Jesus
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0229
-4.514
104115


JESUS
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.4406
-86.78

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:32 AM
KHANA – PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0062
-1.259
104374


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.005
-1.051
104530


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.147
104441


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0056
-1.078
104534


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0015
0.296
104464


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0092
-1.841
104235


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.006
-1.188
104512


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0068
-1.446
103895


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0028
-0.544
103861


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0034
-0.676
104479


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.01
-2.08
104080


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0018
-0.377
104442


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0114
-2.39
104232


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0046
-0.947
104483


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0054
-1.13
102763


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.005
-1.047
103816


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0028
-0.586
104491


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0004
-0.073
104465


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0083
-1.741
104469


.Khana
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0055
-1.147
104245


KHANA
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.0994
-20.452

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:33 AM
DLUFFY - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0004
-0.084
104329


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0054
-1.124
104486


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.006
-1.332
104396


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.003
-0.647
104487


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0018
-0.381
104420


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0119
-2.435
104190


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0032
-0.687
104466


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0006
0.124
103851


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0053
-1.161
103816


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0005
0.098
104432


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0084
-1.825
104032


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0083
-1.714
104398


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0081
-1.732
104187


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0046
-0.975
104438


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0031
-0.655
102713


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0024
-0.497
103773


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.676
104446


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.007
-1.461
104420


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0
0.003
104423


.Dluffy
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0043
-0.909
104199


DLUFFY
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.09
-19.07

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:37 AM
DMXX - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0017
-0.358
100170


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0128
-2.622
100085


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0091
-1.885
100172


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0092
-1.906
100109


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0018
-0.363
99883


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0073
-1.51
100151


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0024
-0.476
99555


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0075
-1.536
99531


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.009
-1.8
100117


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0066
-1.382
99740


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.633
100088


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0066
-1.388
99882


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0048
-0.927
100125


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0054
-1.094
98469


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0141
-2.878
99477


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0048
-0.983
100131


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0116
-2.405
100106


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0093
-1.951
100112


.DMXX
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.616
99900


DMXX
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.1398
-28.713

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:37 AM
NK19191 – PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0092
-1.862
104150


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0074
-1.478
104305


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0065
-1.308
104216


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0071
-1.467
104306


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0024
0.466
104237


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0003
0.055
104012


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0004
0.074
104286


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0108
-2.195
103671


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0064
-1.344
103638


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0001
0.024
104252


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0023
0.448
103856


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0019
0.4
104217


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.004
-0.8
104003


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0018
-0.369
104257


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0008
0.148
102537


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0037
-0.727
103591


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.195
104267


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0058
-1.188
104239


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0069
-1.399
104245


.NK19191
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.003
-0.605
104021


NK19191
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.0654
-13.322

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:39 AM
ARBOGAN - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0008
-0.153
99933


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0022
-0.441
100076


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0043
-0.877
99992


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.003
-0.599
100078


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0024
-0.473
100015


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.001
0.21
99790


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0076
-1.563
100057


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0008
-0.164
99462


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0025
-0.513
99437


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0022
-0.438
100023


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0061
-1.225
99646


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0006
0.122
99993


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0022
-0.471
99788


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0002
0.046
100031


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0075
-1.455
98377


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0039
0.823
99384


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0031
-0.593
100037


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0043
-0.868
100012


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0014
-0.264
100018


.Arbogan
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0061
-1.193
99806


ARBOGAN
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.0508
-10.089

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:39 AM
KURD C1 - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0089
-1.845
104410


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0014
0.288
104566


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0085
-1.848
104479


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0068
-1.377
104567


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.15
104499


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0012
-0.255
104271


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0036
-0.742
104546


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0043
-0.9
103928


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.004
-0.867
103897


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0029
0.583
104513


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0023
0.514
104114


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.212
104479


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0037
-0.783
104266


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0021
-0.433
104519


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0036
0.786
102797


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.002
-0.406
103849


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.208
104527


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0015
-0.316
104500


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0055
-1.12
104506


.Kurd_C1
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0022
-0.458
104281


KURD C1
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.0468
-9.749

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:41 AM
HANNA - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0006
-0.132
104168


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0071
1.501
104324


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0075
-1.599
104237


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0049
-1.03
104327


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.003
0.62
104256


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0003
0.061
104031


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0004
-0.08
104305


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0058
-1.179
103689


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0016
-0.329
103658


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0064
1.362
104272


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0051
1.035
103875


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0027
0.578
104237


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0002
0.034
104024


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0032
-0.688
104276


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0039
0.825
102558


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0032
0.641
103611


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0003
-0.059
104286


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0005
-0.097
104257


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0045
-0.948
104264


.Hanna
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0001
-0.022
104039


HANNA
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0025
0.494

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:41 AM
KURD C4 - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0024
-0.498
104390


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0002
-0.046
104546


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0013
-0.273
104457


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.001
0.203
104548


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0079
1.555
104477


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0016
0.333
104248


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0044
0.877
104527


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0031
0.615
103907


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0033
-0.687
103877


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0005
-0.107
104492


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0037
0.8
104092


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0093
1.885
104457


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0002
-0.034
104245


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.145
104497


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0005
0.091
102773


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0031
-0.653
103833


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0032
-0.644
104507


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0013
-0.259
104480


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0013
0.26
104484


.Kurd_C4
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0019
-0.38
104259


KURD C4
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0147
2.893

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:44 AM
HALGURD (Kurd) – PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0025
-0.507
104362


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.0003
-0.051
104518


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0014
-0.284
104429


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.001
0.202
104520


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0079
1.556
104449


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0016
0.333
104220


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0044
0.874
104499


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0031
0.619
103879


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0033
-0.69
103849


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0005
-0.107
104464


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0037
0.798
104064


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0092
1.882
104429


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0002
-0.032
104217


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.15
104469


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0005
0.096
102745


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0032
-0.667
103805


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0032
-0.646
104479


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.0013
-0.267
104452


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0012
0.258
104456


.Halgurd
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0019
-0.381
104231


HALGURD
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0141
2.836

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:45 AM
MFA (Kurd) - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
0.0027
0.561
103096


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0019
0.413
103247


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
0.0064
1.412
103160


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0079
-1.676
103249


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0008
-0.168
103181


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0062
1.335
102956


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.144
103229


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0037
-0.791
102623


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0019
-0.399
102593


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0038
0.784
103197


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0034
0.742
102803


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0009
-0.192
103162


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0014
0.298
102948


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0082
1.731
103201


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0097
1.997
101500


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0042
-0.925
102538


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.213
103209


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0004
0.079
103183


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.221
103189


.Mfa
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0062
-1.346
102967


MFA
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0158
3.277

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:45 AM
KANDHARI - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0019
-0.407
104373


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0072
1.517
104531


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
0.0012
0.269
104442


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0038
-0.82
104530


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0006
-0.124
104461


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0008
-0.168
104234


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0029
-0.64
104510


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0046
-1.012
103894


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0048
-0.996
103865


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.004
0.829
104476


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0052
1.122
104076


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0038
0.804
104441


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0012
0.256
104234


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0009
0.191
104482


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0023
0.479
102755


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0009
0.193
103814


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0014
0.284
104490


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0022
0.463
104463


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0011
0.224
104468


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.0061
1.317
104246


KANDHARI
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0181
3.781

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:47 AM
MELIF - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
0.0009
0.174
104586


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0053
1.162
104744


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
0.0016
0.35
104655


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.0029
0.612
104745


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0003
-0.062
104677


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0035
0.739
104446


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0015
0.329
104724


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0045
0.989
104106


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
0.0048
1.051
104074


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.004
0.855
104691


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0021
-0.464
104293


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0035
-0.783
104656


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.003
0.657
104443


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0037
0.815
104696


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0037
0.769
102972


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0064
1.39
104027


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0
-0.001
104706


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0012
0.255
104677


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.003
-0.663
104682


.Melif
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0044
-0.919
104458


MELIF
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0337
7.255

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:48 AM
KURD C3 - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.214
104575


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0067
1.392
104733


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.005
-1.077
104644


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0015
-0.321
104734


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0023
0.474
104665


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0036
0.798
104435


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0037
0.753
104713


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0028
0.572
104095


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0017
-0.35
104064


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0058
1.2
104681


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0055
1.192
104281


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0054
1.182
104645


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0007
-0.154
104431


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0011
0.226
104685


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.006
1.278
102957


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0025
0.533
104017


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0029
0.593
104694


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0053
1.126
104666


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0078
1.638
104671


.Kurd_C3
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.0069
1.465
104447


KURD C3
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0584
12.306

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:48 AM
KURD EZIDI - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
0.0026
0.554
103719


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0042
0.889
103873


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.001
-0.201
103784


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.0046
0.967
103875


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0098
2.14
103806


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0058
1.129
103578


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0041
0.875
103854


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0022
-0.456
103239


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
0.0032
0.669
103208


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0087
1.786
103821


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0055
1.153
103428


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0041
0.858
103785


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0057
1.234
103571


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0098
2.103
103829


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0059
1.186
102111


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0001
-0.026
103160


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0026
0.54
103835


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0069
1.441
103810


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0071
1.501
103816


.Kurd_Ezidi
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.003
0.59
103589


KURD EZIDI
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0903
18.932

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:49 AM
KURD C2 - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
0.0069
1.45
104492


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0102
2.079
104650


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0012
-0.251
104561


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.0025
0.521
104651


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0048
0.956
104582


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0107
2.194
104354


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.011
2.203
104631


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.0059
1.201
104017


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
0.002
0.398
103984


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.007
1.451
104597


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.006
1.282
104198


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0091
1.931
104562


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0003
0.072
104348


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0058
1.21
104602


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0108
2.293
102877


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0021
-0.444
103938


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0034
0.714
104611


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0093
1.986
104584


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0049
1.062
104589


.Kurd_C2
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.0103
2.122
104365


KURD C2
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.1176
24.43

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:54 AM
The following tables took a couple of days longer than I had anticipated to put together (for those unaware quite bit of time is involved with putting these together).

These comparisons, comparing various members with Pathan against Baloch are based on Dstats, and the results are not necessarily consistent with ADMIXTURE results for the following reasons:

1- Allele frequencies resulting from recent genetic drift drive ADMIXTURE results, whereas,
2- Total shared ancestry (drift) drives Dstat results. For example, if a population with a substantial part of its ancestry from Africa or E Asia migrated to Balochistan 500 years ago, and mixed a little with Baloch, ADMIXTURE may show an elevated "Baloch" component, but Dstats, which reflect the total shared ancestry will pick up on the substantial elevated "old" African or E Asian admixture, and show a reduced D result in the comparison.

The following factors tend to contribute to a higher positive D result, and thus greater similarity with the Pakistani Baloch samples:

1- Elevated ancient and recent shared Caucausus admixture with Baloch prior to Baloch easterly migration from the NW Iran area;
2- More recent admixture with Baloch post easterly migration of the Baloch to their current geographic location in Pakistan.

The following factors tend to contribute to a higher negative D result, and thus less similarity with the Pakistani Baloch samples:

1- Elevated African admixture;
2- Elevated E Asian admixture;
3- Elevated WHG

Each row in the tables is a comparison with an individual HGDP Pakistani Baloch sample. For decoding the sample IDs please refer to my previous posts. Rows shaded green indicate that the member has greater similarity to that specific Baloch sample than Pathan, and rows shaded red indicate that Pathan has greater similarity to that Baloch sample than the member.

I have also come up with a new method to get an idea of "Balochiness" if you will. I have added all the scores from the individual comparisons, and shown them in the last row as total. A total shaded green shows greater similarity to ALL the Baloch samples in general than Pathan. Red shows the opposite.

The bar has intentionally been set high by using Pakistani Pashtun (Pathan) samples, who are Baloch neighbors, against the member in the comparisons. Thus a red row simply indicates less similarity than Pathan to Baloch, and not necessarily low Baloch similarity. Pathans share both substantial ancient and recent admixture with Baloch. Should I have used Punjabi instead of Pathans in the comparisons, then likely more members would have received more "green" rows.

Various Kurd, W/SC/S Asian results will be posted. From the current comparisons, the lowest total genetic similarity with Baloch went to Syrians, and the highest to Kurd SE. Most viewers will be surprised by the lower scores received by Makranis. I believe the reason to be slightly divergent ancient Baloch-Makrani drift histories (Old African into Makrani).

Here are the results, posted somewhat from lowest similarity with Baloch (compared to Pathan-Baloch) to highest similarity with Pakistani Baloch.



SYRIAN - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0252
-10.716
104764


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
-0.021
-8.63
104922


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
-0.0298
-13.091
104833


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0271
-11.417
104923


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0197
-8.171
104854


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0202
-8.164
104624


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0245
-9.809
104902


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0263
-11.479
104283


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0272
-11.606
104251


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
-0.0229
-9.341
104869


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
-0.0226
-9.746
104468


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
-0.0231
-9.801
104834


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
-0.0259
-11.005
104620


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
-0.0236
-9.454
104874


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
-0.0243
-10.224
103145


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
-0.0315
-12.534
104204


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
-0.0258
-10.542
104883


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
-0.025
-11.027
104855


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
-0.0287
-12.468
104860


Syrian
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
-0.0263
-11.288
104635


SYRIAN
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
-0.5007
-210.513






Reposting the guide to the tables since some may not see it on the previous page. In addition to the W / SC / S Asian members posted, I am looking at running a couple of more this weekend. Also forgot Znertu

Kurd
04-05-2016, 09:58 AM
KURD SE - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
0.0036
0.714
104551


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0197
4.096
104709


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
0.0201
4.197
104621


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
0.0048
0.979
104710


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
0.0212
4.467
104641


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
0.0057
1.149
104413


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
0.0011
0.209
104690


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
0.006
1.23
104071


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
0.0208
4.505
104040


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.0069
1.345
104657


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0271
5.543
104257


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0225
4.56
104621


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.006
1.248
104409


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0247
5.123
104661


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0283
5.822
102935


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0077
1.568
103996


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0058
1.175
104671


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.026
5.28
104643


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0116
2.337
104647


.Kurd_SE
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.0073
1.509
104422


KURD SE
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.2769
57.056

kenji.aryan
04-05-2016, 02:33 PM
Can you include me too bro?

Kurd
04-06-2016, 12:36 AM
Can you include me too bro?

Sure, I ll do it this weekend when I run a few more members

surbakhunWeesste
04-06-2016, 10:03 PM
KANDHARI - PATHAN


Member
Pathan
Balochi
Outgroup
D
Z
SNPs


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi1
Gorilla
-0.0019
-0.407
104373


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi2
Gorilla
0.0072
1.517
104531


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi3
Gorilla
0.0012
0.269
104442


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi4
Gorilla
-0.0038
-0.82
104530


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi5
Gorilla
-0.0006
-0.124
104461


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi6
Gorilla
-0.0008
-0.168
104234


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi7
Gorilla
-0.0029
-0.64
104510


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi8
Gorilla
-0.0046
-1.012
103894


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi9
Gorilla
-0.0048
-0.996
103865


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi10
Gorilla
0.004
0.829
104476


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi11
Gorilla
0.0052
1.122
104076


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi12
Gorilla
0.0038
0.804
104441


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi13
Gorilla
0.0012
0.256
104234


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi14
Gorilla
0.0009
0.191
104482


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi15
Gorilla
0.0023
0.479
102755


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi16
Gorilla
0.0009
0.193
103814


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi17
Gorilla
0.0014
0.284
104490


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi18
Gorilla
0.0022
0.463
104463


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi19
Gorilla
0.0011
0.224
104468


.Kandhari
Pathan
Balochi20
Gorilla
0.0061
1.317
104246


KANDHARI
PATHAN
BALOCHI
TOTAL
0.0181
3.781





Now, all I need to do is master this song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3F7kcLrGvA

Kurd
04-07-2016, 02:42 AM
:lol:

arbaloch
08-16-2017, 10:03 PM
Excellent information