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DillonResearcher
04-01-2016, 07:08 PM
I'm just curious to know if any L2 tested people on here have male line ancestors from Ireland since I fall into this category myself but there seem to be relatively few L2 people with Irish roots.

I've had no luck with my tests so far (SNP testing ruled out the few 12 marker matches) and it would be interesting to know if the Irish L2's cluster around a similar area perhaps?

dp
04-01-2016, 09:46 PM
My maternal grandfather's brother's son tested L2, we dont have close STR matches either.
dp :-)

MitchellSince1893
04-01-2016, 10:05 PM
I'm just curious to know if any L2 tested people on here have male line ancestors from Ireland since I fall into this category myself but there seem to be relatively few L2 people with Irish roots.

I've had no luck with my tests so far (SNP testing ruled out the few 12 marker matches) and it would be interesting to know if the Irish L2's cluster around a similar area perhaps?

All U152 samples only make up 2% of the tested SNPs in the FTDNA projects


http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?5744-Haplogroup-percentages-for-FTDNA-s-Ireland-Y-DNA-Project




If you haven't done so join the U152 project. There are quite a few Ireland L2s there including

129628 PhilipDalton, b.1776, Western Bay, Nl., Canada Ireland R-L2
441766 Patrick Dillon Ireland R-L2
23260 william baird b1690 d.1762,,cumberland co. pa. Ireland R-L2
N47171 Robert Carroll, b. 1734 Ireland and d. 1831 USA Ireland R-L2
272575 John Craig, b. 1761 and d. 1842 Ireland R-L2
251689 Thomas James Vance b 1795 d. 1879 MS Ireland R-L2 and a few other Vances
Quite a few Collins
251689 Thomas James Vance b 1795 d. 1879 MS Ireland R-L2
218458 William Patton, b. 1690 and d. September 5, 1742 Ireland
26749 Moses Wright, 1802 - 1867 Ireland R-L2
H1532 James Boals born ca. 1774 Ireland Ireland R-Z367
225621 John Straghan, c1750, Keady, Northern Ireland Ireland R-L20
96227 Barney Donachy, b 1806,Co Derry, Ireland Ireland R-L20
180227 John Winter(s) b.c. 1765 liv. Co. Limerick, Irelan Ireland R-L20
83078 William Taylor, 1789 - 1844 Ireland R-L20
138123 William BLACK,1868,Omagh,County Tyrone,N.Ireland United Kingdom R-L20
26085 Joshua Bowling b. 1772 VA d. 1840 TN Ireland R-L20
110366 Thomas Henry Barry 1814-1891 Ireland R-Z49 and many other Barrys from the Netherlands originally
228201 John England, b.1730 Ireland? d.1795 N.Carolina Ireland R-L2

This map is from Britain's DNA around 2013

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DillonResearcher
04-01-2016, 11:01 PM
All U152 samples only make up 2% of the tested SNPs in the FTDNA projects


http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?5744-Haplogroup-percentages-for-FTDNA-s-Ireland-Y-DNA-Project



441766 Patrick Dillon Ireland R-L2


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That's me there (or rather my ancestor I should say).

Thanks for attaching the map, is that showing the distribution of L2 of U152?

I'm quite surprised that U152 is only 2% of the Ireland Y-DNA Project, it would be interesting to know why the haplogroup is uncommon in Ireland and if this reason could help any of us stuck at brick walls.

Dubhthach
04-01-2016, 11:16 PM
That's me there (or rather my ancestor I should say).

Thanks for attaching the map, is that showing the distribution of L2 of U152?

I'm quite surprised that U152 is only 2% of the Ireland Y-DNA Project, it would be interesting to know why the haplogroup is uncommon in Ireland and if this reason could help any of us stuck at brick walls.

Well if we look at Busby M269 study which tested for U152 it comes in at 2.17% eg. 10 out of sample size of 460. As Dillon is a surname linked to Cambro-Norman's a U152/L2 result might reflect movement into Ireland post 1169.

DillonResearcher
04-01-2016, 11:25 PM
As Dillon is a surname linked to Cambro-Norman's a U152/L2 result might reflect movement into Ireland post 1169.
Thanks, that's an interesting theory that I'll keep in mind for my paper research. I don't match any of the Dillons in the Dillon surname project, or have any matches with anyone for that matter so I'm always keeping my eyes peeled for any possible clues as to where my Dillons came from. At the moment I'm stuck at the 1800 brick wall with a Patrick Dillon and his brother Luke whose Father (also Patrick) was a farmer somewhere in Ireland.

Is this the Busby study you were referring to? http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/early/2011/08/18/rspb.2011.1044

MitchellSince1893
04-01-2016, 11:44 PM
...is that showing the distribution of L2 of U152?...

It's all U152 types

Ravai
04-02-2016, 11:13 AM
William Patton and Moses Wright, they are in my class, it is likely to have originated in Liguria, Italy.

Regards

nfvee
04-02-2016, 02:15 PM
Kit 129628 is R1b-L2 with Irish ancestry. (Dalton)
Anything of interest there?

DillonResearcher
04-02-2016, 04:19 PM
Kit 129628 is R1b-L2 with Irish ancestry. (Dalton)
Anything of interest there?

Yes, I've noticed that as well. Comparing my DNA markers with his gives us a genetic distance of 31 and only 47 matching markers out of 67 (the highest level he has tested to) which seems to suggest that the similarity of surnames is just a coincidence?