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Dante
04-16-2016, 09:51 AM
I have heard / read that most DNA sites seem to be predominantly "American colonists" for the client base. Particularly the sites that allow you to contact "relatives".

This has sort of turned into a wall because every one of these sites for myself shows not that many relatives.


I am wondering is there any DNA sites that offer the same "perks" - the main one been contact "relatives" - but is more to a European / British client base?

Many thanks in advance.

AJL
04-16-2016, 03:51 PM
I have heard / read that most DNA sites seem to be predominantly "American colonists" for the client base. Particularly the sites that allow you to contact "relatives".

This has sort of turned into a wall because every one of these sites for myself shows not that many relatives.

I am wondering is there any DNA sites that offer the same "perks" - the main one been contact "relatives" - but is more to a European / British client base?

Many thanks in advance.

Unfortunately not that I know of. For ancestral analysis, there's BritainsDNA but they don't have an autosomal database for cousin matching, and I hope they have cleaned up their act since this:

http://cruwys.blogspot.ca/2013/12/setting-record-straight-about-sara.html

MacUalraig
04-16-2016, 04:08 PM
Unfortunately not that I know of. For ancestral analysis, there's BritainsDNA but they don't have an autosomal database for cousin matching, and I hope they have cleaned up their act since this:

http://cruwys.blogspot.ca/2013/12/setting-record-straight-about-sara.html

The 'attack piece' you have cited has no bearing on Chromo2 at all. Or autosomal DNA.

Dante
04-16-2016, 10:10 PM
Unfortunately not that I know of. For ancestral analysis, there's BritainsDNA but they don't have an autosomal database for cousin matching, and I hope they have cleaned up their act since this:

http://cruwys.blogspot.ca/2013/12/setting-record-straight-about-sara.html


"detailed Y-DNA haplogroup assignment" as per the article.

Is the haplogroup assignment actually any different than the Y-DNA assignment one gets from FTDNA or 23&me [which though vague does give you subgroups] or the Geno 2.0 project. Cause except for Full Genomes I've used all the Y DNA testing listed here. Slightly different detail, same haplogroup in all essence, & very limited relatives.
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-DNA_SNP_testing_chart

AJL
04-17-2016, 12:01 AM
The 'attack piece' you have cited has no bearing on Chromo2 at all. Or autosomal DNA.

To be fair to them, it is an old article. But I had a similar experience with their old incarnation, EthnoAncestry (they assigned me to the wrong yDNA group, with a false positive for a downstream SNP). That was even longer ago, though, and I expect they have improved since that time. Anyway, misdiagnosing Y or mtDNA is not relevant to Dante's question because they don't have cousin matching.


"detailed Y-DNA haplogroup assignment" as per the article.

Is the haplogroup assignment actually any different than the Y-DNA assignment one gets from FTDNA or 23&me [which though vague does give you subgroups] or the Geno 2.0 project. Cause except for Full Genomes I've used all the Y DNA testing listed here. Slightly different detail, same haplogroup in all essence, & very limited relatives.
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Y-DNA_SNP_testing_chart

I haven't tested with them because my Y line isn't from anywhere near Britain. If it were I would consider it. You'd be better asking the same question (or perusing) here:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?141-BritainsDNA-Chromo2

DebbieK
04-17-2016, 10:43 AM
If you're looking to find matches with genetic cousins then there is a choice of three testing companies: 23andMe, AncestryDNA and Family Tree DNA. All three companies accept international orders. FTDNA sell their tests worldwide. 23andMe sell their test in 56 countries. AncestryDNA sell their test in 30+ countries. All three companies sell their tests in the UK. For autosomal DNA AncestryDNA probably now have the largest number of people from the UK. They were marketing their test very heavily at Who Do You Think You Are? Live last weekend and selling the kits for 59. This was a big saving on the usual price of 99 plus 20 postage. The AncestryDNA test has only been available in the UK since January 2015 whereas it's been available in the US since 2012. The Amerians also have the advantage of paying a much lower price ($99 versus 99). You do tend to get rather flooded with distant American matches with no easy way to filter them out. 23andMe have quite a few Brits in their database but a lot of people test for health reasons and don't participate in DNA Relatives. FTDNA are the only company that have a Y-DNA matching database for genealogy and they are the company used by virtually all UK-led Y-DNA projects. Until AncestryDNA came on the market FTDNA were the UK company of choice for autosomal DNA testing for cousin-matching purposes. For other European countries then FTDNA is probably the best choice because of all their geographical projects, though most of these were initially based on Y-DNA testing and they don't all accept Family Finder results:

http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Geographical_DNA_projects

wombatofthenorth
07-17-2016, 12:50 AM
You can also test with Geno 2.0 NG and then pay $39 to transfer into the FamilyFinder database (randomly some transfers seem to get stuck due to some obscure bug at FTDNA, I think they then run a new FF behind the scenes, but that takes a long time and you might have to push them a bit into it, I don't think this happens very often, but so far is still a possibility to happen). Geno 2.0 NG gives you a lot better maps and background info regarding ancestry composition than the FamilyFinder test from FTDNA and also gets you your mtDNA and Y-haplogroups (and presents them in a nice walk out of Africa way, a nicer presentation of haplogroups than any of the other sites). For haplo matching or to find unique SNPs or most recent final SNP etc. you need to buy extra tests at FTDNA (the Y ones can be quite a lot of $$$$).

If you just want to get into a matching database for autosomal DNA and care about nothing else at all, FamilyFinder from FTDNA or Ancestry cost the least. Geno 2.0 NG costs a good deal more and 23 even a touch more still.

You should also upload to GEDMATCH.

Saetro
07-17-2016, 08:11 PM
If you just want to get into a matching database for autosomal DNA and care about nothing else at all, FamilyFinder from FTDNA or Ancestry cost the least.
You should also upload to GEDMATCH.
Cheapest version of this is to test at Ancestry, copy your results over to FTDNA for US $39 (last time I looked), and also copy over free to GEDmatch.
Then you are looking in three places at once.