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sciencediver
07-16-2016, 05:14 PM
Some people from my region of origin have been tested positive for this SNP.

Where can I find more info on its distribution, variance, etc?

J Man
07-16-2016, 05:42 PM
Some people from my region of origin have been tested positive for this SNP.

Where can I find more info on its distribution, variance, etc?

Southwest Crete? Are you from Sfakia?

sciencediver
07-16-2016, 06:00 PM
Southwest Crete? Are you from Sfakia?

I grew up in Chania but most of my ancestry (7of my 8 great-grandparents) is traced back to Sfakia region.

J Man
07-16-2016, 06:11 PM
I grew up in Chania but most of my ancestry (7of my 8 great-grandparents) is traced back to Sfakia region.

I see this result in the Greek DNA Project.

136794 GEORGE PSILAKIS born 7/31/1883 Sfakia, Crete Greece J-M319

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Greece/default.aspx?section=yresults

Babylon_74
07-16-2016, 06:13 PM
Some people from my region of origin have been tested positive for this SNP.

Where can I find more info on its distribution, variance, etc?

Heraklion Prefecture and Lasithi Prefecture

10478

M319 seems to be also available Chania and Sfakia

10479

and also in a Levantine cluster

10480

sciencediver
07-16-2016, 06:19 PM
I see this result in the Greek DNA Project.

136794 GEORGE PSILAKIS born 7/31/1883 Sfakia, Crete Greece J-M319

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Greece/default.aspx?section=yresults

There's also another guy from Western Crete who was either predicted or confirmed J-M319.
https://snag.gy/fP6WMm.jpg

I wonder if it exists in other Greek regions as well.

sciencediver
07-16-2016, 06:25 PM
Heraklion Prefecture and Lasithi Prefecture

10478

M319 seems to be also available Chania and Sfakia

10479

and also in a Levantine cluster

10480

so it looks like it's concentrated around the mediterranean ( italy, spain, crete, lebanon)

J Man
07-16-2016, 06:38 PM
There's also another guy from Western Crete who was either predicted or confirmed J-M319.
https://snag.gy/fP6WMm.jpg

I wonder if it exists in other Greek regions as well.

Where exactly in Crete is that man from do you know?

sciencediver
07-16-2016, 06:45 PM
Where exactly in Crete is that man from do you know?



Ι know some people with that surname, it is very common in Kissamos, Northwestern Crete afaik.

J Man
07-16-2016, 08:14 PM
Ι know some people with that surname, it is very common in Kissamos, Northwestern Crete afaik.

Do you know of any other men from Sfakia that belong to Y-DNA haplogroup J2a?

sciencediver
07-16-2016, 09:41 PM
Do you know of any other men from Sfakia that belong to Y-DNA haplogroup J2a?

All these surnames belong to the same M319 subcluster according to ftdna:


Kontes Pologeorgis Gounoutsis Tsykurov Kopakakis Sfinias Necolettos

As far as I know, Pologeorgis and Sfinias are both families from Sfakia.

sciencediver
07-17-2016, 05:43 PM
Worth noting that J2a arrived in the Balkans during the Neolithic, according to Battaglia et al 2008.

J Man
07-17-2016, 06:09 PM
Worth noting that J2a arrived in the Balkans during the Neolithic, according to Battaglia et al 2008.

Some J2 was certainly present in the Balkans during the Neolithic but we do not know yet exactly if it was J2a or J2b.

sciencediver
07-19-2016, 07:50 PM
Some J2 was certainly present in the Balkans during the Neolithic but we do not know yet exactly if it was J2a or J2b.

I think J2 will surprise us one day, it could very well be neolithic(or at least bronze age levantine) in origin and not Caucasian.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PT_7tVw-vFA/VIXwnXn0QNI/AAAAAAAAD3c/UoZn6tQ1zCQ/s1600/Armenia.JPG

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v20/n3/images/ejhg2011192f4.jpg

J Man
07-20-2016, 01:25 AM
I think J2 will surprise us one day, it could very well be neolithic(or at least bronze age levantine) in origin and not Caucasian.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PT_7tVw-vFA/VIXwnXn0QNI/AAAAAAAAD3c/UoZn6tQ1zCQ/s1600/Armenia.JPG

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v20/n3/images/ejhg2011192f4.jpg

It very well could be. Time will tell. Some J2, J2a and now also J2b has been found in Neolithic Near Eastern, Anatolian and European samples.

Amathusian
01-23-2017, 11:48 AM
J2a-M319 is also prevalent in Cyprus and interestingly the Y-STR haplotype diversity among Cypriots is higher than among Cretans.

By the way, does anyone know of any Cretan with autosomal DNA data from FTDNA, 23andme, etc? I am very interested to have a look at their results.

Smilelover
09-01-2017, 08:04 PM
My uncle is also grouped in J-m172 project in and my uncle tribe belongs to Kindah tribe
In yemen and central Arabia