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Passa
08-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Here's my map of Germanic Y-DNA lineages in Germany. My source is mainly the German FTDNA Project. Enjoy.

http://www.anthrogenica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10824&stc=1

Tomenable
08-09-2016, 11:02 AM
Which ones did you count as Germanic in Germany, the same ones as in Italy?

Passa
08-12-2016, 08:11 PM
Which ones did you count as Germanic in Germany, the same ones as in Italy?

I-M253, I-M223, R-U106 and R-Z284.

can't_lurk_no_mo'
08-12-2016, 10:00 PM
I'm guessing more R1b-U106 in Bavaria and more I1 in northern Germany.

rms2
08-12-2016, 10:07 PM
I'm guessing more R1b-U106 in Bavaria and more I1 in northern Germany.

Given that the hotspot for R1b-U106 in Busby et al was Friesland at 42.6%, and its Germany South sample was 19.8%, it seems likely U106 is more frequent in northern than in southern Germany.

Of course, I don't know what the stats for FTDNA's Germany Project are.

Edward J
08-13-2016, 12:55 AM
I think I would have contributed to the light spot on the middle left.

Tomenable
08-13-2016, 02:01 AM
Osnabrück-Bielefeld region has >70% of Germanic Y-DNA, while Wittenberg-Leipzig only <10%.

It seems that Martin Luther, who was born near Leipzig, had a typically Slavic subclade of I2a1.

Artmar
08-13-2016, 09:41 AM
I2-M223 is as Germanic as haplogroup J1&J2 is Arabic and E is Berber. Eupedia.com mindset is still pretty much alive these days.

So the answer is - part of it is but it is a subbranch that matters. Is there a possibility to find certainly Germanic clades within M223? From what I've seen - some of the branches are actually well confined to the Celtic world: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-L1195/ , https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3684/ , whereas it looks Germanic: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-L1425/ . There is even a Norse branch: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y4926/
some branches are heavily mixed: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Z2069/

It wouldn't have changeg a map significantly, though. I'm just curious about a character of I2-M223 in Germany.