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raspberry
08-11-2016, 10:53 AM
Hello, how can I know from wich subclade of haplogroup H (H1,H2,H13,H18 etc.)I am? I have a mt-dna full sequence.

RCO
08-11-2016, 11:23 AM
Hello

You can find your mtDNA H mutations here:
http://www.phylotree.org/tree/R0.htm

raspberry
08-11-2016, 11:30 AM
Hello, thank you for the link but what do I have to do now?
10915
This are my RSRS values
10916
And this are my rCRS values.

RCO
08-11-2016, 11:52 AM
You also should have your FTDNA - CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
You need in the full sequence: HVR1, HVR2, Coding Regions to define your group. If you have all and FTDNA could not classify your haplotype, it means you can have a new mtDNA H type not yet classified

raspberry
08-11-2016, 12:03 PM
10917
I have alredy my mtdna haplogroup classified. What are Coding Regions? Sorry I do not know much about mt-dna

RCO
08-11-2016, 01:32 PM
It looks like you only have or received HVR1, HVR2, you need the Coding Region to be fully classified.
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/mtdna-testing/parts-mitochondrial-dna-mtdna-hvr1-hvr2-coding-region/

vettor
09-01-2016, 07:01 PM
Chasing My mtdna H95 branch, i found this old paper

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1950831/

which states
We identified 9 different haplotypes (H8, H9, H11, H12, H48, H49, H95, H97, and H98) with alleles carrying the T-13910 LP variant and 14 haplotypes (H1, H2, H4, H27, H34, H46, H51, H52, H54, H55, H81, H82, H84, and H87) with alleles carrying the C-13910 LNP variant (table 5).

Further down it states H95 is associated with the Parsi and Saami people
I do have a finnish/swedish H95 connection but the other 80% of H95 are all northern Italians

Any clue/papers/stories if Parsi and Saami are linked

GailT
09-01-2016, 10:31 PM
I think that paper is referring to lactase persistence haplotypes, not mtDNA.

slodok
09-29-2016, 03:20 PM
I have full sequence: HVR1, HVR2, Coding Regions.FT mt dna result say Haplogroup H.On Jameslick :
H
Defining Markers for haplogroup H:
HVR2: 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 15326G
HVR1:
Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 191.1A 238G (309.1C) (315.1C) 5554T 6677G (16519C)
Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:
Matches(6): 263G 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 15326G
Extras(4): 191.1A 238G (309.1C) (315.1C) 5554T 6677G (16519C)

Where is subgroup?

slodok
09-29-2016, 03:32 PM
Maybe someone can help me ? These are family tree mt dna results
Extra Mutations 191.1AA238G309.1C315.1C522.1A522.2CC5554TA6677G
Missing Mutations
HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
A16129G T16187C C16189T T16223C G16230A T16278C C16311T
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
G73A C146T C152T 191.1A C195T A238G A247G 309.1C 315.1C 522.1A 522.2C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
A769G A825t A1018G G2706A A2758G C2885T T3594C G4104A T4312C C5554T A6677G T7028C G7146A T7256C A7521G T8468C T8655C G8701A C9540T G10398A T10664C A10688G C10810T C10873T C10915T A11719G A11914G T12705C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C T14766C

and old system


HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
16519C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
191.1A 238G 263G 309.1C 315.1C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
750G 1438G 4769G 5554T 6677G 8860G 15326G
Revised Cambridge Reference Sequence

HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
16519 T C
HVR2 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
191.1 A
238 A G
263 A G
309.1 C
315.1 C
CR REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
750 A G
1438 A G
4769 A G
5554 C T
6677 A G
8860 A G
15326 A G

MacUalraig
09-29-2016, 03:54 PM
Maybe someone can help me ? These are family tree mt dna results
Extra Mutations 191.1AA238G309.1C315.1C522.1A522.2CC5554TA6677G
Missing Mutations
HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
A16129G T16187C C16189T T16223C G16230A T16278C C16311T
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
G73A C146T C152T 191.1A C195T A238G A247G 309.1C 315.1C 522.1A 522.2C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS
A769G A825t A1018G G2706A A2758G C2885T T3594C G4104A T4312C C5554T A6677G T7028C G7146A T7256C A7521G T8468C T8655C G8701A C9540T G10398A T10664C A10688G C10810T C10873T C10915T A11719G A11914G T12705C G13105A G13276A T13506C T13650C T14766C

and old system


HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
16519C
HVR2 DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
191.1A 238G 263G 309.1C 315.1C
CODING REGION DIFFERENCES FROM rCRS
750G 1438G 4769G 5554T 6677G 8860G 15326G
Revised Cambridge Reference Sequence

HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
16519 T C
HVR2 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
191.1 A
238 A G
263 A G
309.1 C
315.1 C
CR REFERENCE SEQUENCE
Show All Positions
Position CRS Your Result
750 A G
1438 A G
4769 A G
5554 C T
6677 A G
8860 A G
15326 A G

Not sure what you are after but it is best if you haven't done so yet to just navigate the tree yourself to see where you fit in

http://www.phylotree.org/tree/R0.htm

Then you can see the break point between the recognised branches and yourself. The latest tree revision added two sub-branches under my terminal SNP but I was negative for them.

palamede
10-15-2016, 07:34 PM
I have full sequence: HVR1, HVR2, Coding Regions.FT mt dna result say Haplogroup H.On Jameslick :
H
Defining Markers for haplogroup H:
HVR2: 263G
CR: 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 15326G
HVR1:
Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H (plus extra markers):
H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 191.1A 238G (309.1C) (315.1C) 5554T 6677G (16519C)
Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:
Matches(6): 263G 750G 1438G 4769G 8860G 15326G
Extras(4): 191.1A 238G (309.1C) (315.1C) 5554T 6677G (16519C)

Where is subgroup?
The 6 matches put ou on the trunk of the haplogroup H and on none of its known sub-branches.
In thee extras les ( ) are not considered in the phylogenetic tree.
For the 4 very extras, they could defined your future own branch, but it needs other testees with one or several of these mutations to be entered in the phlogenetic tree. Before this future event uou remains H* (asterix telling you are in the haplogroup H but in none of its defined sub-clades.

I guess the definition of the sub-clades of haplogroup H is not complete. it remained to define some very rare sub-groups difficult to do with a certainty.

raspberry
12-26-2016, 12:07 AM
Hello, I uploaded my autosomal file from FTdna to jamesclick Dna to determine my subclade of mtdna H. i know that this site isnt made for Ftdna autosomal files but still I uploaded it and got some results. i wanted to ask if its reliable, the Haplogroup at least is correct. Still it shows many errors after the upload. The best fitting Matches are below. H2 mtdna isnt limited to the Near East so what do you say?
Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:


1) H2a2a1


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1 (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K




2) H2a2a1b


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1b:

HVR2:

CR: 9299G

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1b (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 9299G ⇨ H2a2a1b ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 9299




2) H2a2a1a


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1a:

HVR2:

CR: 15314A

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1a (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 15314A ⇨ H2a2a1a ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 15314




2) H2a2a1d


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1d:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16172C


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1d (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16172C ⇨ H2a2a1d ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16172




2) H2a2a1g


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1g:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16189C


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1g (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16189C ⇨ H2a2a1g ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16189




2) H2a2a1e


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1e:

HVR2:

CR: 8182T

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1e (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 8182T ⇨ H2a2a1e ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 8182




2) H2a2a1h


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1h:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16320T


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1h (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16320T ⇨ H2a2a1h ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16320




2) H2a2a1f


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1f:

HVR2: 93G

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1f (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 93G ⇨ H2a2a1f ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

No-Calls(1): 93G




2) H2a2a


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a:

HVR2: 263G

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

No-Calls(1): 263G




3) H2a2a1c


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1c:

HVR2:

CR: 6632C

HVR1: 16051G


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1c (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 6632C 16051G ⇨ H2a2a1c ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(2): 6632 16051

Magnetic
12-26-2016, 09:36 AM
my mtdna is only H without any subclade . ????

kingjohn
12-26-2016, 01:53 PM
Chasing My mtdna H95 branch, i found this old paper

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1950831/

which states
We identified 9 different haplotypes (H8, H9, H11, H12, H48, H49, H95, H97, and H98) with alleles carrying the T-13910 LP variant and 14 haplotypes (H1, H2, H4, H27, H34, H46, H51, H52, H54, H55, H81, H82, H84, and H87) with alleles carrying the C-13910 LNP variant (table 5).

Further down it states H95 is associated with the Parsi and Saami people
I do have a finnish/swedish H95 connection but the other 80% of H95 are all northern Italians

Any clue/papers/stories if Parsi and Saami are linked

vettor is that you the h95a here{italy}?
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h95_genbank_sequences.htm
regards
Adam

raspberry
12-26-2016, 05:55 PM
Is H2a2a1 a downclade of H2a1? It is a downclade of H2a, I looked it up on the phylotree.

kingjohn
12-26-2016, 06:38 PM
check this :
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h2a2a_genbank_sequences.htm
you got alot of relatives in denmark :)
regards
adam

raspberry
12-26-2016, 06:41 PM
check this :
http://www.ianlogan.co.uk/sequences_by_group/h2a2a_genbank_sequences.htm
you got alot of relatives in denmark :)
regards
adam

Thank you king for the link, indeed I have a Danish match (autosomal, on FTdna) who has also the maternal haplogroup H2a2. So it is not a surprise. But H2a is also the most common of the haplogroup H in the Arabian Peninsula.

kingjohn
12-26-2016, 06:44 PM
but the arabian h2a is probably diffrent from the danish one ????
regards
Adam

kingjohn
12-26-2016, 06:46 PM
you should do mtdna full sequence .....
i know it is expansive but than you can be sure on your mtdna linage ...
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/test-types/upgrade-mitochondrial-dna-full-genomic-sequence-test-will-learn/
regards
adam

raspberry
12-26-2016, 06:51 PM
you should do mtdna full sequence .....
i know it is expansive but than you can be sure on your mtdna linage ...
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/test-types/upgrade-mitochondrial-dna-full-genomic-sequence-test-will-learn/
regards
adam
First I want to make BigY (for what I will also wait a few months, if not years) than I may consider doing mtdna full sequence.

vettor
12-26-2016, 09:04 PM
Hello, I uploaded my autosomal file from FTdna to jamesclick Dna to determine my subclade of mtdna H. i know that this site isnt made for Ftdna autosomal files but still I uploaded it and got some results. i wanted to ask if its reliable, the Haplogroup at least is correct. Still it shows many errors after the upload. The best fitting Matches are below. H2 mtdna isnt limited to the Near East so what do you say?
Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:


1) H2a2a1


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1 (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Good Match! Your results also had extra markers for this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K




2) H2a2a1b


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1b:

HVR2:

CR: 9299G

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1b (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 9299G ⇨ H2a2a1b ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 9299




2) H2a2a1a


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1a:

HVR2:

CR: 15314A

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1a (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 15314A ⇨ H2a2a1a ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 15314




2) H2a2a1d


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1d:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16172C


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1d (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16172C ⇨ H2a2a1d ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16172




2) H2a2a1g


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1g:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16189C


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1g (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16189C ⇨ H2a2a1g ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16189




2) H2a2a1e


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1e:

HVR2:

CR: 8182T

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1e (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 8182T ⇨ H2a2a1e ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 8182




2) H2a2a1h


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1h:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1: 16320T


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1h (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 16320T ⇨ H2a2a1h ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(1): 16320




2) H2a2a1f


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1f:

HVR2: 93G

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1f (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 93G ⇨ H2a2a1f ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

No-Calls(1): 93G




2) H2a2a


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a:

HVR2: 263G

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

No-Calls(1): 263G




3) H2a2a1c


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1c:

HVR2:

CR: 6632C

HVR1: 16051G


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1c (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 6632C 16051G ⇨ H2a2a1c ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K


Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:

Extras(11): 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

Untested(2): 6632 16051

I was h2a2a1 in 2012 ...............but, there where too many abnormalities in my markers ...............so I send data to GENBANK via Ian Logan ........I am confirmed H95a . This marker is also only found when I did NAtGeno 2

There are now 5 of us ( not including family ) ...........4 x Alpine ( 3 x Northern-Italian ans 1 x Austrian ) and 1 x Finnish/Swedish

GailT
12-27-2016, 06:15 AM
I suspect that your results were not uploaded or processed correctly. The list of extras looks like noise. It might be that no results were processed and mthap is defaulting to the rCRS H2a2a1.



Hello, I uploaded my autosomal file from FTdna to jamesclick Dna to determine my subclade of mtdna H. i know that this site isnt made for Ftdna autosomal files but still I uploaded it and got some results. i wanted to ask if its reliable, the Haplogroup at least is correct. Still it shows many errors after the upload. The best fitting Matches are below. H2 mtdna isnt limited to the Near East so what do you say?
Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:


1) H2a2a1


Defining Markers for haplogroup H2a2a1:

HVR2:

CR:

HVR1:


Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H2a2a1 (plus extra markers):

H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 1T 2W 3C 4- 6T 7S 17Y 18U 21X 21.1M 21.2K

GailT
12-27-2016, 06:20 AM
First I want to make BigY (for what I will also wait a few months, if not years) than I may consider doing mtdna full sequence.

The BigY used to include mtDNA full sequences results that were usually very accurate, but FTDNA no longer includes the mtDNA results. If you test the Full Y at FGS, it should include more complete coverage of the Y DNA and also the mtDNA full sequence.

GailT
12-27-2016, 06:22 AM
my mtdna is only H without any subclade . ????

Did you test the full sequence? There are many people in haplogroup H who are not yet in one of named subclades, and there are a few people who tested the full sequence but are H with no extra mutations.

Magnetic
12-27-2016, 07:25 AM
Did you test the full sequence? There are many people in haplogroup H who are not yet in one of named subclades, and there are a few people who tested the full sequence but are H with no extra mutations.

hmm I dont even know what you are saying because I am not knowledged about this :-/ you could also have been writing chinese right now lol

raspberry
12-27-2016, 10:13 AM
The BigY used to include mtDNA full sequences results that were usually very accurate, but FTDNA no longer includes the mtDNA results. If you test the Full Y at FGS, it should include more complete coverage of the Y DNA and also the mtDNA full sequence.

Yes there were also many errors. The price of Full Y at FGS is too much :(

vettor
12-27-2016, 06:22 PM
Did you test the full sequence? There are many people in haplogroup H who are not yet in one of named subclades, and there are a few people who tested the full sequence but are H with no extra mutations.

I am still only H in ftdna ............maybe due to them still using an old tree

But the different H projects of Ftdna that I belong to, do have me as H95a

So , lesson to me is to rely on the fabulous work of the individuals who runs the different projects in Ftdna

vettor
12-27-2016, 06:33 PM
I am currently "hunting" the individuals that NatGeno2 has for H95a

The genbank part .............one is mine

http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h95/h95a/

Judith
12-27-2016, 09:33 PM
In general for both genealogy and tribal history you will find ydna more helpful.
The H haplo group in particular is so widespread that it does not aid finding ancestral origins.
I have never tried uploading autosomal DNA into the mtDNA finder, but it makes complete sense that it will revert to the CRS, just with an occasional difference when there is a random match.

C J Wyatt III
12-28-2016, 01:37 AM
I am currently "hunting" the individuals that NatGeno2 has for H95a

The genbank part .............one is mine

http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l123456/l23456/l2346/l346/l34/l3/n/r/r0/hv/h/h95/h95a/

I see two on the H Project, but they don't look like NatGeno2 Project numbers. I guess neither one of those is yours?

Jack

vettor
12-28-2016, 03:04 AM
I see two on the H Project, but they don't look like NatGeno2 Project numbers. I guess neither one of those is yours?

Jack

The next page in the link is my sister

Hap10032092

my is in the genbank section above the natgeno section

Solothurn
12-28-2016, 03:48 AM
There are probably some discount codes should he decide to take the test :)


you should do mtdna full sequence .....
i know it is expansive but than you can be sure on your mtdna linage ...
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/test-types/upgrade-mitochondrial-dna-full-genomic-sequence-test-will-learn/
regards
adam

raspberry
12-28-2016, 10:38 PM
There are probably some discount codes should he decide to take the test :)

I wont do it because what even will I know more.. If it would only cost 20$(:P) I would say okay but 169$ (the upgrade) is too much and it isnt even really needed. I think I belong to H2a branch of the haplogroup H and this also doesnt help..

vettor
03-17-2018, 03:56 AM
The next page in the link is my sister

Hap10032092

my is in the genbank section above the natgeno section

Just received another H95a match from Kivik Sweden.................so my % of matches are, 80% from Sweden and finland and 20% from north-italy ............no other country

so its either ostrogoths coming to Italy .....or.....some camp followers baggage train of the swedish army in the 30 years wars ( they just had to cross into the alps )

Geborgenheit
04-08-2018, 07:15 AM
I have been assigned the haplogroup H after the full sequence test, no subclade.

When I look at http://www.phylotree.org, I see that one of my extra mutations, T15670C, can be found only in H11a2a2, however, all other mutations associated with H11a2a2 do not correspond to my results. Does it mean anything ?

ianz91
04-30-2018, 08:50 AM
I am H5a4, have yet to meet anyone with H5a let alone H5a4

Eihwaz
04-30-2018, 12:16 PM
I have been assigned the haplogroup H after the full sequence test, no subclade.

When I look at http://www.phylotree.org, I see that one of my extra mutations, T15670C, can be found only in H11a2a2, however, all other mutations associated with H11a2a2 do not correspond to my results. Does it mean anything ?

Sounds like you got a new subclade of H! You should upload your results to genbank.

Geborgenheit
04-30-2018, 06:49 PM
Sounds like you got a new subclade of H! You should upload your results to genbank.

I have already uploaded it there and I know that some of my FMS matches have uploaded their results too. I am not sure if it will lead to getting a new subclade and when.

Eihwaz
04-30-2018, 07:42 PM
I have already uploaded it there and I know that some of my FMS matches have uploaded their results too. I am not sure if it will lead to getting a new subclade and when.

Probably whenever the next phylotree update comes out. I should be getting a new subclade, as well.

Saetro
05-30-2018, 08:28 PM
H & HV haplogroup Project at FTDNA is showing the first stirrings of renewed activity with Rebekah Canada taking on the task of the backlog in assigning sub groups to new members.
Give her some time and space though. Apparently there are 3000 to catch up on.