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Kurd
08-14-2016, 02:19 AM
Here I use Dstats to explore Natufian vs Iran Neolithic shared drift for Kurds and other groups. Think of a see-saw with Natufian sitting on one end and Iran N on the other. Each POP1 sample is located somewhere on the see-saw. If D=0, this means the sample is exactly in the middle of the see-saw, equally distant from both Natufian and Iran N. If D is -ve, then the sample is shifted towards the Iran N side, and the more -ve the D, the more Iran N shifted it is (top of table). Conversly, if D is +ve, then the sample is Natufian shifted, the more +ve the more Natufian shifted (bottom of table).

Some interesting observations:

1- Europeans share a longer drift path with Natufian, than with Iran N;
2- WHG share a longer path with Natufian than Iran N, with Loschbour, La Brana, and Hungarian KO1 sharing a slightly longer drift path with Natufian than Villabruna with Natufian, possibly indicating Natufian - WHG geneflow in the Neolithic;
3-Whereas it is not surprising that CHG is very Iran N shifted, I did not expect AG3 to be up there with Kotias;
4- If L= Shared path length Iran N - shared path length Natufian, then L is greater for AG3 than for MA1 and EHG, indicating geneflow from pops related to AG3 (and not MA1 or EHG) into Iran Neolithic. Whereas David has mentioned that he found a closer relationship between Iranians and AG3, it appears that this is not the case for all Kurds, as some of my Kurds showed an increased affinity for MA1 than AG3 in D( MA1, AG3, Kurds, Chimp).
5- All Kurds are Iran N shifted, with some Kurds being as Iran N shifted as some S Asians are.



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_N_WC1
Chimp
-0.1049
-12.387
91962


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_LN
Chimp
-0.1037
-10.472
88129


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_Hotu
Chimp
-0.0782
-5.135
26498


Natufian
Iran_N1
Kotias
Chimp
-0.0656
-8.098
147608


Natufian
Iran_N1
Satsurbila
Chimp
-0.0632
-6.781
102020


Natufian
Iran_N1
AG3
Chimp
-0.0445
-3.512
44725


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_ChL
Chimp
-0.0433
-5.628
137044


Natufian
Iran_N1
Kennewick
Chimp
-0.0421
-4.193
78268


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Dluffy
Chimp
-0.0416
-5.823
146802


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Sapporo
Chimp
-0.0402
-5.56
145278


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Parasar
Chimp
-0.0399
-5.649
143107


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Varun
Chimp
-0.0395
-5.35
146427


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Khana
Chimp
-0.0394
-5.33
146745


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Bored
Chimp
-0.0391
-5.385
147110


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Bol_Nat
Chimp
-0.0389
-5.30
144938


Natufian
Iran_N1
.McNinja
Chimp
-0.0387
-5.25
146032


Natufian
Iran_N1
Palliyar
Chimp
-0.038
-2.592
24341


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Sein
Chimp
-0.0379
-5.314
146023


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F4
Chimp
-0.0364
-5.12
146876


Natufian
Iran_N1
Kharia
Chimp
-0.0358
-2.511
24341


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Reza1
Chimp
-0.035
-4.75
146314


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F6
Chimp
-0.0341
-4.462
143065


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Melif
Chimp
-0.0339
-4.67
147297


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kaido
Chimp
-0.0326
-4.46
146850


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Zara
Chimp
-0.0323
-4.276
147171


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kenji
Chimp
-0.0312
-4.40
146695


Natufian
Iran_N1
Kalash
Chimp
-0.031
-3.139
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Brahui
Chimp
-0.03
-3.069
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Balochi
Chimp
-0.0276
-2.828
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Tajik
Chimp
-0.0274
-4.684
144740


Natufian
Iran_N1
Makrani
Chimp
-0.0267
-2.747
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
.NK19191
Chimp
-0.0266
-3.78
146643


Natufian
Iran_N1
Clovis
Chimp
-0.0264
-3.179
147476


Natufian
Iran_N1
Onge
Chimp
-0.0249
-1.618
24341


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Iranian567
Chimp
-0.0236
-3.34
146762


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Halgurd
Chimp
-0.0224
-2.987
146771


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F2
Chimp
-0.0224
-3.135
146734


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F8
Chimp
-0.0216
-2.937
146433


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F3
Chimp
-0.0209
-2.801
147220


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F7
Chimp
-0.0195
-2.588
147171


Natufian
Iran_N1
MA1
Chimp
-0.0187
-1.962
107403


Natufian
Iran_N1
EHG
Chimp
-0.0183
-2.372
141580


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_C2
Chimp
-0.018
-2.459
147072


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Mfa
Chimp
-0.018
-2.449
145084

Kurd
08-14-2016, 02:20 AM
Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F5
Chimp
-0.0179
-2.444
147221


Natufian
Iran_N1
Karitiana
Chimp
-0.0178
-1.549
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_F1
Chimp
-0.0159
-2.217
147214


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_C1
Chimp
-0.0158
-2.172
146969


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Hanna
Chimp
-0.0157
-2.21
146595


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iranian_Bandari
Chimp
-0.0146
-1.47
42534


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_C3
Chimp
-0.0145
-2.023
147210


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Znertu
Chimp
-0.0143
-1.924
146749


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Humanist
Chimp
-0.0127
-1.75
146932


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_Shirazi
Chimp
-0.012
-1.226
42534


Natufian
Iran_N1
Andronovo
Chimp
-0.0115
-1.716
147319


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iranian
Chimp
-0.01
-0.998
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Zephyrous
Chimp
-0.0095
-1.28
146676


Natufian
Iran_N1
.Kurd_Ezidi
Chimp
-0.0082
-1.096
145919


Natufian
Iran_N1
Iran_Lori
Chimp
-0.0078
-0.779
42534


Natufian
Iran_N1
Han
Chimp
-0.0072
-0.689
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Australian
Chimp
-0.0021
-0.175
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Papuan
Chimp
-0.0012
-0.104
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Mota
Chimp
-0.0004
-0.046
147614











Natufian
Iran_N1
Yoruba
Chimp
0.0095
0.924
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Lithuanian
Chimp
0.0129
1.285
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
GoyetQ116
Chimp
0.0149
1.646
124036


Natufian
Iran_N1
Switzerland_HG
Chimp
0.0174
2.162
147505


Natufian
Iran_N1
Syrian
Chimp
0.0197
2.021
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Villabruna
Chimp
0.0202
2.43
134083


Natufian
Iran_N1
WHG
Chimp
0.0219
3.162
147635


Natufian
Iran_N1
Spanish
Chimp
0.0231
2.365
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Hungarian_KO1
Chimp
0.0243
2.732
103102


Natufian
Iran_N1
Saudi
Chimp
0.0332
3.328
42734


Natufian
Iran_N1
Anatolia_N
Chimp
0.0337
5.536
147636


Natufian
Iran_N1
Sardinian
Chimp
0.0365
3.666
42734

persian
08-14-2016, 02:58 AM
Amazing info, why do you think that Mota shares more drift with Iran N, Kurd? One would think, for obvious reasons, that Mota would be more Natufian related, but this does not seem to be the case.

Kurd
08-14-2016, 03:12 AM
Amazing info, why do you think that Mota shares more drift with Iran N, Kurd? One would think, for obvious reasons, that Mota would be more Natufian related, but this does not seem to be the case.


Z is -.046 which is very insignificant, essentially meaning that it is Neutral, meaning no geneflow with either Natufian or Iran N, or alternatively, equal geneflow with both (I doubt this). Notice modern Yoruba slightly Natufian tilted, perhaps due to back migration into Africa of pop related to Natufian or Anatolia N.

nee4speed111
08-14-2016, 04:59 AM
Interesting that Sardinians share more drift with Natufians than Saudi's

Kurd
08-14-2016, 10:00 AM
Interesting that Sardinians share more drift with Natufians than Saudi's

SSA and some other near eastern admixture into Saudi is shortening the Saudi - Natufian shared drift path vs Sardinian - Natufian

Dr_McNinja
08-14-2016, 03:58 PM
Could you include myself and Sapporo in this to see if we have higher than usual affinity to Iran_N here like we did in the calculator?

persian
08-14-2016, 05:15 PM
Z is -.046 which is very insignificant, essentially meaning that it is Neutral, meaning no geneflow with either Natufian or Iran N, or alternatively, equal geneflow with both (I doubt this). Notice modern Yoruba slightly Natufian tilted, perhaps due to back migration into Africa of pop related to Natufian or Anatolia N.

Thanks Kurd, I still find it odd that Mota isn't more Natufian shifted due to its proximity to the Sinai and Levant. Oh BTW Kurd, would it be too much trouble to add Iranian Zoroastrians into the list? Thanks in advance

Kurd
08-14-2016, 06:51 PM
Thanks Kurd, I still find it odd that Mota isn't more Natufian shifted due to its proximity to the Sinai and Levant. Oh BTW Kurd, would it be too much trouble to add Iranian Zoroastrians into the list? Thanks in advance

I'll be happy to add them if someone has them

Kurd
08-15-2016, 12:36 PM
Above tables updated with additional members

MonkeyDLuffy
08-15-2016, 06:42 PM
Interesting to see I'm the most Iran H shifted here as well.