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Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:21 PM
As most are aware, the recent papers referencing Neolithic Iranians cited Zoroastrians as harboring the highest ancestry from Neolithic Iranians. I became curious as to what the results would have been if Kurds had been included in the studies, after all the Ganj Dareh sample was recovered from the Kurdistan area.

Here, I did a comparison using dstats of various Iranian, Kurd, and S/SC Asian samples to the Ganj Dareh high coverage sample. The results show that whereas Zoroastrians share more drift with Iran N than other Iranians and SC/S Asians, most of the Kurd samples (and NK19191) share more drift with Iran N than Zoroastrians.

A couple of things to keep in mind:

1- The rankings may slightly change at higher SNPs;
2- Some insignificant Z values will be significant at higher SNPs;
3- Admixture from a clade not common to 2 of the samples in the comparison may depress D. For example, in D ( X, Y, Target, Outgroup), if the target is primarily Crown Eurasian, and if either X or Y has more admixture from SSA or ASI, or E Asian, relative to the other, its total shared drift path with the target will become shorter. In this case however, Zoroastrians and Kurds have very similar admixture profiles, and thus D should not be impacted

Samples sharing more drift with Iran N than Zoroastrians are above the red line (mostly Kurds)



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_LN
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0664
-6.77
43383


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_N_WC1
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0494
-7.06
51925


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_ChL
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0238
-4.59
77551


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_recent
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0078
-1.00
67224


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C2
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0073
-1.23
80096


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F8
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0059
-1.09
79920


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F5
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.004
-0.69
80126


Iran_Zoroastrian
.NK19191
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0034
-0.59
79940


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F3
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0027
-0.44
80125


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F2
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0026
-0.45
79981


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F6
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0025
-0.41
77111


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F4
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0024
-0.39
80009


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F7
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.002
-0.35
80113


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C3
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0018
-0.31
80164


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Mfa
Iran_N
Chimp
-0.0008
-0.14
79125











Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0009
0.47
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Halgurd
Iran_N
Chimp
0.002
0.35
80028


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Jam
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0025
0.45
80079


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Zara
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0028
0.44
80128


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_Fars
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0035
1.62
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
Balochi
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0038
1.58
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_Ezidi
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0048
0.78
79573


Iran_Zoroastrian
Brahui
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0048
2.04
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F1
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0051
0.88
80116


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C1
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0059
1.05
80036


Iran_Zoroastrian
Pathan
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0067
2.85
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
Makrani
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0076
3.16
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Khana
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0092
1.59
80014


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiA
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0095
2.91
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Farid
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0125
2.02
79978


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Iranian567
Iran_N
Chimp
0.015
2.60
79954


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian_Bandari
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0182
7.04
80251


Iran_Zoroastrian
.McNinja
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0215
3.58
79644


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiD
Iran_N
Chimp
0.0221
6.65
80251

vettor
08-24-2016, 06:23 PM
Are Persian Yazd people with their Zoroastrian link the origins of the Yazidi people ?

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:23 PM
A slightly different comparison to verify the above. Samples sorted with most Iran N shared drift on top



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Iran_LN
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.4185
47.40
43416


Iran_N_WC1
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.4002
55.18
51961


Iran_ChL
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3882
66.79
77590


Iran_recent
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3767
49.84
67261


.Kurd_F5
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3742
57.83
80165


.Kurd_C2
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.374
60.19
80135


.Kurd_F8
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3727
60.50
79958


.NK19191
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3723
59.96
79979


.Kurd_F2
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.371
58.83
80020


.Kurd_F6
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3709
54.68
77148


.Kurd_F7
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3709
57.59
80152


.Mfa
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3709
58.68
79163


.Kurd_F4
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3708
59.52
80048


.Kurd_C3
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3707
60.19
80203


.Kurd_F3
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3697
56.53
80164


.Jam
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3695
58.92
80118


Iran_Zoroastrian
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3693
77.91
80251


Iranian
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3687
79.47
80290


.Kurd_Ezidi
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3673
55.04
79611


Balochi
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3668
78.17
80290


.Zara
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3667
56.25
80167


Iran_Fars
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3666
76.63
80251


.Halgurd
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3665
56.22
80067


Brahui
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3664
78.30
80290


.Kurd_C1
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3655
58.40
80074


.Kurd_F1
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3655
59.23
80155


Makrani
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3647
76.12
80290


Pathan
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3646
75.77
80290


.Khana
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3632
57.30
80053


GujaratiA
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3623
73.07
80290


.Farid
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3618
54.98
80017


.Iranian567
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3595
58.21
79993


Iranian_Bandari
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3573
75.07
80290


.McNinja
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3537
55.13
79682


GujaratiD
Mbuti.DG
Iran_N
Chimp
0.3534
68.98
80290

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:26 PM
Are Persian Yazd people with their Zoroastrian link the origins of the Yazidi people ?

Not sure. All I know is that there is a sizeable Zoroastrian community around Yazd. This may be where these samples are from

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:30 PM
Here I compared Zoroastrian shared drift with Onge and Andamanese vs Kurd shared drift with those groups. Apparently, most of the Kurd samples share more drift with Onge and Andamanese than Zoroastrians

Samples above red line share more drift with Andamanese than Zoroastrians share with Andamanese



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiD
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.036
-10.98
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiA
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0266
-8.33
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Jam
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0244
-4.51
43771


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Khana
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.021
-3.67
43742


Iran_Zoroastrian
.McNinja
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.021
-3.52
43602


Iran_Zoroastrian
Pathan
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0207
-9.21
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
Balochi
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0101
-4.46
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C2
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0091
-1.67
43792


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Farid
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0091
-1.55
43714


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Halgurd
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0086
-1.38
43734


Iran_Zoroastrian
Brahui
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0074
-3.40
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F2
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0065
-1.12
43745


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F5
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0053
-0.96
43804


Iran_Zoroastrian
.NK19191
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0045
-0.73
43737


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F1
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0035
-0.62
43792


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C3
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0033
-0.60
43830


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_Fars
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0018
-0.88
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0013
-0.71
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F3
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.001
-0.17
43798


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F7
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0004
-0.08
43800


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_ChL
Andamanese
Chimp
-0.0002
-0.04
40584











Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F8
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0001
0.02
43679


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_Ezidi
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0014
0.24
43580


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Zara
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0019
0.30
43808


Iran_Zoroastrian
Makrani
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0025
1.16
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_recent
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0026
0.30
31273


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_N_WC1
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0029
0.38
27623


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F4
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0037
0.64
43773


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Mfa
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0043
0.80
43307


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F6
Andamanese
Chimp
0.007
1.14
42524


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C1
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0084
1.45
43762


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian_Bandari
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0104
3.99
43877


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_N
Andamanese
Chimp
0.0159
1.92
33902


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Iranian567
Andamanese
Chimp
0.019
3.50
43765

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:32 PM
Samples sorted with most Onge shared drift on top



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


GujaratiD
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3672
67.87
43883


.Jam
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.356
52.80
43777


GujaratiA
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3558
68.08
43883


.Khana
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3538
52.59
43748


Pathan
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3535
70.12
43883


.McNinja
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3515
50.69
43608


.Farid
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3473
50.77
43720


Balochi
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.344
68.06
43883


.NK19191
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3432
49.03
43743


Brahui
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3421
67.56
43883


.Kurd_C2
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3412
50.68
43798


.Kurd_F5
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3403
49.46
43810


.Kurd_F2
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3396
48.33
43751


.Halgurd
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3391
46.00
43740


Iran_Fars
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3378
66.65
43877


Iranian
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3371
66.59
43883


.Kurd_Ezidi
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3368
48.76
43586


Iran_ChL
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3365
48.74
40590


.Kurd_F7
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3356
48.64
43806


Iran_recent
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3356
37.17
31277


.Kurd_F1
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3352
46.88
43798


.Zara
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3351
47.33
43814


Makrani
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3349
65.67
43883


.Kurd_C3
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3347
48.91
43836


.Kurd_F3
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3345
46.77
43804


Iran_Zoroastrian
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3336
63.87
43877


.Mfa
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3329
47.68
43313


.Kurd_F8
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3327
47.09
43684


.Kurd_F4
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3311
48.08
43779


Iran_N_WC1
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3307
38.93
27629


Iranian_Bandari
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3306
64.37
43883


.Kurd_F6
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3297
45.48
42529


Iran_N
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3292
36.99
33908


.Kurd_C1
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.3254
44.40
43768


.Iranian567
Mbuti.DG
Onge
Chimp
0.32
46.54
43771

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:35 PM
Here I test shared drift with EHG. Apparently, Zoroastrians share more drift with EHG than others, except for some Kurd samples, Pathans, and a couple of S Asians

Samples above red line share more drift with EHG than Zoroastrians share with EHG



Iran_Zoroastrian
.Jam
EHG
Chimp
-0.0071
-1.45
96622


Iran_Zoroastrian
Pathan
EHG
Chimp
-0.0051
-2.77
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F5
EHG
Chimp
-0.0049
-0.99
96678


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Mfa
EHG
Chimp
-0.0024
-0.51
95508


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F3
EHG
Chimp
-0.0008
-0.17
96666


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C3
EHG
Chimp
-0.0006
-0.13
96730


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiA
EHG
Chimp
-0.0005
-0.20
96829











Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F2
EHG
Chimp
0.0005
0.09
96517


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F1
EHG
Chimp
0.0018
0.39
96664


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Khana
EHG
Chimp
0.0018
0.37
96542


Iran_Zoroastrian
.NK19191
EHG
Chimp
0.002
0.39
96475


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C2
EHG
Chimp
0.0024
0.49
96649


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_recent
EHG
Chimp
0.0024
0.36
76388


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_Fars
EHG
Chimp
0.0034
1.85
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F6
EHG
Chimp
0.0041
0.81
93402


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Halgurd
EHG
Chimp
0.0044
0.85
96559


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F8
EHG
Chimp
0.0051
1.02
96424


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F4
EHG
Chimp
0.0052
1.00
96562


Iran_Zoroastrian
Balochi
EHG
Chimp
0.0056
2.90
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Zara
EHG
Chimp
0.0057
0.99
96681


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian
EHG
Chimp
0.0059
3.58
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_F7
EHG
Chimp
0.006
1.23
96661


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_Ezidi
EHG
Chimp
0.0074
1.43
96046


Iran_Zoroastrian
.McNinja
EHG
Chimp
0.0075
1.46
96116


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Kurd_C1
EHG
Chimp
0.0086
1.73
96569


Iran_Zoroastrian
Brahui
EHG
Chimp
0.0091
4.78
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
GujaratiD
EHG
Chimp
0.0115
4.16
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
Makrani
EHG
Chimp
0.0143
7.33
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Iranian567
EHG
Chimp
0.0152
2.99
96501


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_LN
EHG
Chimp
0.0171
2.05
48872


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_ChL
EHG
Chimp
0.0173
3.91
92149


Iran_Zoroastrian
.Farid
EHG
Chimp
0.0203
3.88
96496


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iranian_Bandari
EHG
Chimp
0.0236
10.23
96829


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_N_WC1
EHG
Chimp
0.0342
5.91
62644


Iran_Zoroastrian
Iran_N
EHG
Chimp
0.0435
6.23
79636

Kurd
08-24-2016, 06:37 PM
Sorted with samples sharing the most drift with EHG on top. This is another test to confirm the above



POP1
POP2
TARGET
OUT
D
Z
SNPs


.Jam
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3816
70.69
96662


.Kurd_F5
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3797
69.86
96718


Pathan
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3782
93.24
96869


.Mfa
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3774
68.39
95547


.Kurd_C3
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3751
70.31
96770


Iran_recent
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3747
56.10
76426


GujaratiA
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3745
86.44
96869


Iran_Zoroastrian
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3745
92.06
96829


.Kurd_F3
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3741
63.58
96706


.Khana
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3738
71.09
96582


.Kurd_F1
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3737
69.49
96704


.Kurd_F2
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3737
68.79
96557


.NK19191
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3734
66.60
96515


Iran_Fars
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3723
91.47
96829


.Kurd_C2
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3718
68.44
96689


.Zara
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3716
64.40
96721


.Kurd_F6
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3711
66.31
93440


.Kurd_F4
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3708
67.78
96602


Balochi
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3707
91.60
96869


Iranian
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3703
92.26
96869


.Halgurd
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3699
65.10
96599


.Kurd_Ezidi
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3695
66.13
96085


.Kurd_F8
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3695
67.32
96463


.Kurd_C1
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.369
68.51
96608


.Kurd_F7
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3685
66.36
96701


.McNinja
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3682
66.46
96155


Brahui
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3682
90.12
96869


GujaratiD
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3669
85.15
96869


Makrani
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3648
88.26
96869


.Iranian567
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3638
66.10
96541


Iran_ChL
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3623
69.38
92189


.Farid
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.361
63.35
96536


Iranian_Bandari
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3585
85.23
96869


Iran_N_WC1
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3429
55.45
62681


Iran_N
Mbuti.DG
EHG
Chimp
0.3404
48.26
79675

Kurd
08-25-2016, 02:31 AM
Here are the Iran N K6 calculator population average scores for some of the samples included above



Population Average
ASE
IRAN N
NATUFIAN
WHG
NE ASIAN
SSA



Iran Fars
2.23%
49.29%
37.96%
6.31%
3.10%
1.10%



Iran Zoroastrian
0.92%
53.27%
36.82%
7.06%
1.09%
0.85%



Iranian
2.66%
49.45%
38.31%
5.65%
2.61%
1.31%
Iranian=Mazandarani+Lur+Shirazi


Kurd Feyli
1.12%
50.96%
40.40%
4.52%
1.56%
1.44%



Kurd C
3.77%
47.20%
40.41%
4.55%
2.72%
1.35%



Balochi
8.70%
64.02%
17.24%
6.04%
2.93%
1.07%



Brahui
8.27%
64.63%
17.45%
5.56%
2.49%
1.60%



Makrani
7.35%
62.03%
20.20%
5.21%
1.57%
3.65%



GujaratiA
16.39%
59.01%
6.36%
11.50%
6.47%
0.27%



GujaratiD
24.32%
63.28%
0.02%
3.61%
8.37%
0.40%