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Titus Valerius
09-09-2016, 09:09 PM
Hi all, I just got the result from yseq of my friend M. Basso, now I know he's L21+. Mr. Boattini has tested in province of La Spezia 24 people and he found 2 L21s, now there are 3 L21s in my area . You can check their STRs on ysearch

RVXTM Basso Portovenere (La Spezia), Italy 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 10 13 14 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 17 15 17 17 35 37 12 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
3ZNG7 L21SPEZIA2 Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23
E6DAU L21SPEZIA Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 14 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23

Have you any idea about their subclade?

Larth
09-09-2016, 09:17 PM
Have you any idea about their subclade?

As I know Boattini didn't reveal the subclades.

Titus Valerius
09-09-2016, 09:24 PM
I have the paper and he just did reveal that they are L21s.

Larth
09-09-2016, 09:30 PM
I have the paper and he did reveal the subclades. Check it

Thanks, I didn't know, I will check for sure.

vettor
09-10-2016, 12:27 AM
Hi all, I just got the result from yseq of my friend M. Basso, now I know he's L21+. Mr. Boattini has tested in province of La Spezia 24 people and he found 2 L21s, now there are 3 L21s in my area . You can check their STRs on ysearch

RVXTM Basso Portovenere (La Spezia), Italy 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 10 13 14 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 17 15 17 17 35 37 12 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
3ZNG7 L21SPEZIA2 Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23
E6DAU L21SPEZIA Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 14 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23

Have you any idea about their subclade?

Nice town Portovenere with its castle by the sea

Titus Valerius
09-10-2016, 01:12 PM
Sorry Larth, I was wrong, according Boattini paper we just know they are L21 and no further subclade is specified

Titus Valerius
09-10-2016, 01:12 PM
Nice town Portovenere with its castle by the sea

I aggre, Portovenere is a nice place!

Titus Valerius
09-10-2016, 01:18 PM
I noticed that dys 392 of my friend is 14 and I know M222+ people has dys 392=14 as well. But make no mistake I will test my friend for L21 SNP PACK c/o Yseq

jdean
09-10-2016, 02:32 PM
Hi all, I just got the result from yseq of my friend M. Basso, now I know he's L21+. Mr. Boattini has tested in province of La Spezia 24 people and he found 2 L21s, now there are 3 L21s in my area . You can check their STRs on ysearch

RVXTM Basso Portovenere (La Spezia), Italy 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 10 13 14 30 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 17 15 17 17 35 37 12 12 12 11 13 11 11 12 12
3ZNG7 L21SPEZIA2 Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23
E6DAU L21SPEZIA Unknown 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 13 13 14 30 18 15 19 11 17 12 23

Have you any idea about their subclade?

Are you sure these are all in FTDNA order, first 37 for RVXTM make perfect sense but the last 7 don't ?

Titus Valerius
09-10-2016, 03:12 PM
Hi Jdean, at first I have tested my friend at yseq for 37 STRs test, then I thought he could be Z56+ or L21+ so I tested Dys 492, in fact in Z56 the DYS 492=14, but my friend has 12. But Yseq tested more STRs over what I ordered

ADW_1981
09-10-2016, 03:14 PM
I noticed that dys 392 of my friend is 14 and I know M222+ people has dys 392=14 as well. But make no mistake I will test my friend for L21 SNP PACK c/o Yseq

I was going to say RVXTM looks a bit like M222, but I am not an expert on that branch (or any really). Can't say for sure without SNP testing.

MacUalraig
09-10-2016, 03:41 PM
I was going to say RVXTM looks a bit like M222, but I am not an expert on that branch (or any really). Can't say for sure without SNP testing.

It is showing indicators for M222 but the geography is curious so let's see.

jdean
09-10-2016, 07:24 PM
It is showing indicators for M222 but the geography is curious so let's see.

I seriously doubt Titus Valerius is M222 but unfortunately I don't have any suggestions, the closest people I can find haven't done any real SNP testing (one P312+, M222-) and they could be convergence anyway.

Best advice is to order Thomas Krahn's L21 SNP panel test.

Titus Valerius
09-11-2016, 06:32 AM
Hi all, I checked the Boattini paper and I noticed that all L21s are not M222+. R1b1b2a1b5-L21 (xM222)
So I think my friend is not M222 as well. At this point the best thing to do is order Thomas Krahn's L21 SNP panel test.

Titus Valerius
11-02-2016, 10:34 PM
Hi there, I just got the first results from yseq of my friend M. Basso. I have tested him for the super clade (L21) orientation panel. At this moment I know he is DF13+ and DF49-
Updates will follow.