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TigerMW
04-30-2013, 11:30 PM
A recent Deseret News article writes that Ugo Perego of SMGF has determined that Joseph Smith is M222+. Of course, Smith is the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement and was thought to had many children.

Ugo Perego is the director of operations at the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation.

From there, Perego identified a part of Joseph Smith's DNA that had a very rare marker called M222. With this "higher resolution" he found that the same marker was found in Northwest Ireland — with a little bit in Lowland Scotland.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700249298/DNA-shows-Joseph-Smith-was-Irish.html?pg=all

I'm not sure I would call M222 rare, though.

AJL
04-30-2013, 11:51 PM
Interesting.


With this "higher resolution" he found that the same marker was found in Northwest Ireland — with a little bit in Lowland Scotland.

Not just northwestern Irish, though, and I doubt "Lowlands" is the best designation since the map at the M222 Project implies that this is mainly around Glasgow? This area had lots of Irish immigration in the past 250 years or so (such as some of Sean Connery's ancestors). The occurence of M222 in the Hebrides and Western Highlands of Scotland may also speak to the settlement of Dál Riata from Ireland. People from these areas (some of my ancestors included) also settled heavily around Glasgow during the Highland Clearances period, so perhaps this is older Ireland > Scotland migration rather than in the last few centuries.

A number of Irish and Scottish names became "Smith" in English, e.g. McGowan.

David Wilson
12-17-2016, 07:51 PM
Should have posted this months ago when it came to my attention, but a Big Y test of a Joseph Smith descendant puts the lineage at R-M222*. He is not a member of any project that I can spot, but his results show up in the match lists for other Big Y testers who are also M222+.

Dubhthach
12-17-2016, 09:35 PM
Should have posted this months ago when it came to my attention, but a Big Y test of a Joseph Smith descendant puts the lineage at R-M222*. He is not a member of any project that I can spot, but his results show up in the match lists for other Big Y testers who are also M222+.

M222* would be interesting given that vast majority of men doing BigY/SNP bundle fall under DF105 (It's really the DF13 equivalent of M222 land!)

David Wilson
08-31-2017, 03:47 AM
It appears I need to correct the statement about Joseph Smith I made in post no. 3 above. Sometime in the last several months FTDNA must have reconsidered the tested individual's Big Y results, or perhaps there was a targeted SNP test completely apart from his Big Y assessment. At any rate, FTDNA now classifies the descendant of Joseph Smith as R-FGC4087, which is one of the defining SNPs of the second largest branch of M222. This is actually my branch too, but the tested Smith and I have no shared SNPs below FGC4087 (and, we presume, FGC4077 and FGC4078, which are equivalent SNPs).