21-1311 Stuck for now at L21 Terminal ......

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Harris Kit# 211960 Brythonic/Celtic Ancestry

R1b1a2a1a1b4 L238/S182
L21+ DF21+ DF13+ Z246- P66- P314.2- M37- M222- L96- L720- L642- L641- L226- L193- L159.2- L144-.

I can go no further on SNP Testing. I match all of the STR and SNP requirements of Ely Carroll Group; but, do not have a GD of 12 or less. I match 6 of 11 characteristics of the Little Scotts; but do not have the required DYS=9 (mine is 8). Hopefully, Geno 2.0 results will provide guidance on future SNP testing.

Bill

[GoldenHind]

Mr. Harris above is not L238. Rather he is L21>DF21>DF13, as will be seen in looking at his SNP results above. He is understandably confused by an old and out of date chart with the R1b classification for L238. I and a few others tried to explain this to him previously, but obviously we didn't succeed. Perhaps someone else would care to try again.
It is an excellent example of the confusion inherent in the R1b....et ad infinitum classifications, and why they should be abandoned once and forever.