johen
10-08-2016, 06:26 AM
In the japanese website regarding famous person's Hg, Q-M346 is the royal Hg in shang dynasty, when the civilization started in China. I don't know how they found the royal hg to be related with Q. There has been no genetic research paper regarding shang. I heard that some mexican had the Q-M346.
古代中国・殷の末代王である帝辛紂王(在位：BC1075-BC1046)のY染色体は、ハプログループQ1a2(Q-M346)であると推定される(注1)(注2)
http://famousdna.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/Y%E6%9F%93%E8%89%B2%E4%BD%93Q%E7%B3%BB%E7%B5%B1
I think that shang dynasty is related with Indo european and american Indian civilization, especially Mayan. So I think shang people was related to american Indian, staying in Altai with the same recipe(idea or philosophy) from their ancestor as ancient Mayan had.
shang's horse burial similar to shintasha's
http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20080215-chariot%20osu.jpg
1. KC Chang, Harvard University professor of Archeology and Anthropology described shang civilization as China-Maya Continuum. It means two civilizations had the same origin.
Chinese civilization and American civilizations are actually the descendants of the same ancestors, from different locations and times. KC Chang called this entire cultural background "the Mayan-Chinese Culture Continuum.” The geographical scope of this continuum covers the entire Old World and the New World. Their time dates back much further than the origin of Chinese civilization, or the Mayan civilization, and at least as early as the Upper Paleolithic Period.
Based on this point of view, the Paleolithic ancestors, their culture, in particular the level of development of the arts, ideas and ideology, far exceed how we view them from limited archaeological data. As such, we often underestimate the level of their culture.
20,000-30,000 years ago when most of the Indigenous groups passed through the Bering Strait from Asia to the Americas, they brought along a culture with unexpected richness. This extended to the New World and became known as "the Mayan-Chinese culture continuum. Its core element comprised of "sorcery and shaman culture". When viewing the world, they divided it into different levels, and the shaman interchanged between the different levels. They engaged in this communication, some aides and tools: various law , which may include a gourd, alcohol, drugs, a variety of animals and a heaven-earth pole.
20,000 to 30,000 years ago, people journeyed across the Bering Strait to the New World. During this process, they were said to have brought over a variety of cultural background. From this rich basis of culture, similar societies were formed at different places and different times. This included the Bronze Age civilization that occurred two to three thousand years ago in China, the Mayan civilization in Mexico, as well as other similar civilizations.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=sP-...tinuum&f=false
2. Moreover, Old Chinese language was lots of IE borrowings.
http://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp007_old_chinese.pdf
- The Riddle of the White `Mummies' Of Ancient China,
By Dr. Alexander Jacob
It is known that the Chinese borrowed a number of words dealing with wheels and chariots from Indo-European sources. Archeology tells us that the art of making spoked wheels, and thus chariots light enough to be drawn by horses, was developed at the western end of Asia, around the southern Urals, in the third and early second millennia B.C. We do not know for certain that the mummy people used chariots, but given the known facts, it seems likely that they did, and that they transmitted this know-how to the Shan tribe of Chinese. There is no doubt that a sizable chunk of ancient Chinese vocabulary came from Indo-European—not only to do with chariotry, but also in architecture, divination, healing and other matters.
3. artifacts similar to mayan's.
4. lots of pyramids in China.
http://www.ancientpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/chinesepyram1.jpg
Ancient records preserved in an old monastery near the Mongolian border describe the Xian pyramid.
The structure was said to measure 1,000 feet in height which made it the highest pyramid in the world (the Great Pyramid of Egypt is 450 feet in height).
According to the monastic documents the pyramid was already extremely old when the records were made.
In the valleys surrounding the Xian pyramid were dozens of other pyramids, some rising to an elevation almost as great.
Surviving traces of original pigments show that the Xian pyramid was painted with different colours on each on its four flanks.
The east side was bluish grey, with white facing the west, black on the north, and red on the south.
It should be noted that other ancient monuments such as the Maya, Aztecs, and many Indian tribes of North America associated the four cardinal directions with different colours.
In 1994, archaeologists discovered several pyramids near the Wei River, north of Xian. Hausdorf estimates there may be as many 90 to 100 pyramids in China, including the White Pyramid which is the highest of them all. All of them are mostly unheard of in the Western world.
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/mysterious-great-pyramid-of-china-almost-totally-unknown-even-to-most-chinese/
古代中国・殷の末代王である帝辛紂王(在位：BC1075-BC1046)のY染色体は、ハプログループQ1a2(Q-M346)であると推定される(注1)(注2)
http://famousdna.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/Y%E6%9F%93%E8%89%B2%E4%BD%93Q%E7%B3%BB%E7%B5%B1
I think that shang dynasty is related with Indo european and american Indian civilization, especially Mayan. So I think shang people was related to american Indian, staying in Altai with the same recipe(idea or philosophy) from their ancestor as ancient Mayan had.
shang's horse burial similar to shintasha's
http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20080215-chariot%20osu.jpg
1. KC Chang, Harvard University professor of Archeology and Anthropology described shang civilization as China-Maya Continuum. It means two civilizations had the same origin.
Chinese civilization and American civilizations are actually the descendants of the same ancestors, from different locations and times. KC Chang called this entire cultural background "the Mayan-Chinese Culture Continuum.” The geographical scope of this continuum covers the entire Old World and the New World. Their time dates back much further than the origin of Chinese civilization, or the Mayan civilization, and at least as early as the Upper Paleolithic Period.
Based on this point of view, the Paleolithic ancestors, their culture, in particular the level of development of the arts, ideas and ideology, far exceed how we view them from limited archaeological data. As such, we often underestimate the level of their culture.
20,000-30,000 years ago when most of the Indigenous groups passed through the Bering Strait from Asia to the Americas, they brought along a culture with unexpected richness. This extended to the New World and became known as "the Mayan-Chinese culture continuum. Its core element comprised of "sorcery and shaman culture". When viewing the world, they divided it into different levels, and the shaman interchanged between the different levels. They engaged in this communication, some aides and tools: various law , which may include a gourd, alcohol, drugs, a variety of animals and a heaven-earth pole.
20,000 to 30,000 years ago, people journeyed across the Bering Strait to the New World. During this process, they were said to have brought over a variety of cultural background. From this rich basis of culture, similar societies were formed at different places and different times. This included the Bronze Age civilization that occurred two to three thousand years ago in China, the Mayan civilization in Mexico, as well as other similar civilizations.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=sP-...tinuum&f=false
2. Moreover, Old Chinese language was lots of IE borrowings.
http://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp007_old_chinese.pdf
- The Riddle of the White `Mummies' Of Ancient China,
By Dr. Alexander Jacob
It is known that the Chinese borrowed a number of words dealing with wheels and chariots from Indo-European sources. Archeology tells us that the art of making spoked wheels, and thus chariots light enough to be drawn by horses, was developed at the western end of Asia, around the southern Urals, in the third and early second millennia B.C. We do not know for certain that the mummy people used chariots, but given the known facts, it seems likely that they did, and that they transmitted this know-how to the Shan tribe of Chinese. There is no doubt that a sizable chunk of ancient Chinese vocabulary came from Indo-European—not only to do with chariotry, but also in architecture, divination, healing and other matters.
3. artifacts similar to mayan's.
4. lots of pyramids in China.
http://www.ancientpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/chinesepyram1.jpg
Ancient records preserved in an old monastery near the Mongolian border describe the Xian pyramid.
The structure was said to measure 1,000 feet in height which made it the highest pyramid in the world (the Great Pyramid of Egypt is 450 feet in height).
According to the monastic documents the pyramid was already extremely old when the records were made.
In the valleys surrounding the Xian pyramid were dozens of other pyramids, some rising to an elevation almost as great.
Surviving traces of original pigments show that the Xian pyramid was painted with different colours on each on its four flanks.
The east side was bluish grey, with white facing the west, black on the north, and red on the south.
It should be noted that other ancient monuments such as the Maya, Aztecs, and many Indian tribes of North America associated the four cardinal directions with different colours.
In 1994, archaeologists discovered several pyramids near the Wei River, north of Xian. Hausdorf estimates there may be as many 90 to 100 pyramids in China, including the White Pyramid which is the highest of them all. All of them are mostly unheard of in the Western world.
http://www.messagetoeagle.com/mysterious-great-pyramid-of-china-almost-totally-unknown-even-to-most-chinese/