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A Norfolk L-M20
10-31-2016, 11:22 PM
My transported great great great grandfather's tree in Maxey:

https://paulbrooker.posthaven.com/a-new-ancestral-parish-maxey-near-peterborough

JohnHowellsTyrfro
11-01-2016, 05:34 AM
My transported great great great grandfather's tree in Maxey:

https://paulbrooker.posthaven.com/a-new-ancestral-parish-maxey-near-peterborough

That is very interesting. As you know Norfolk nearly all my recent ancestors have been Welsh borders, mainly farming but a couple of female ancestors stand out. One was from Nettleton Lincolnshire and another from Banbury, Oxfordshire, I think she was an Inn-keepers daughter.
I have suspected the connection was made through cattle or livestock droving.
A little something in memory of your transported ancestor. Lovely photos by the way. John


https://youtu.be/kS2vffK_niI

A Norfolk L-M20
11-01-2016, 12:44 PM
That is very interesting. As you know Norfolk nearly all my recent ancestors have been Welsh borders, mainly farming but a couple of female ancestors stand out. One was from Nettleton Lincolnshire and another from Banbury, Oxfordshire, I think she was an Inn-keepers daughter.
I have suspected the connection was made through cattle or livestock droving.
A little something in memory of your transported ancestor. Lovely photos by the way. John


https://youtu.be/kS2vffK_niI

Thanks John. The photos were borrowed under creative common attributions. I rarely have ancestors move around a lot. Usually within ten miles of place of birth, except for a few lines here and there. So it was a bit of a surprise years ago, when I say my great great grandmother in Attleborough, Norfolk, list Eaton, Lincolnshire as her place of birth. It wasn't until this year, with online genealogy, that I was able to crack the story, and I'll have to say it was the excellent archives on Ancestry.com that told it - with great court, prison hulk, transportation, penal colony records - then yesterday, I found her father's place of birth through digitalised archives from Northants C.C that are now on that site. His family were primarily shepherds and drovers in the Maxey area (was County of Northampton, but is now in Cambridgeshire) - and even his crime was the theft of two cattle. From that I can only imagine that his vocation might have brought him into contact with my Norfolk great great great grandmother.

One problem that I encountered with the digitalised indexes however, were frequent mis-transcriptions through misreading the surname Peach. A search of indexes alone could have easily missed them due to some dreadful errors in transcription. I was lucky - but I picked up a lot more of the families by browsing through the filmed online registers and Bishop's Transcripts slide by slide.

JohnHowellsTyrfro
11-01-2016, 01:34 PM
There are some amazing stories in our family histories, well done for discovering yours. John

Dewsloth
11-01-2016, 04:43 PM
That is very interesting. As you know Norfolk nearly all my recent ancestors have been Welsh borders, mainly farming but a couple of female ancestors stand out. One was from Nettleton Lincolnshire and another from Banbury, Oxfordshire, I think she was an Inn-keepers daughter.
I have suspected the connection was made through cattle or livestock droving.
A little something in memory of your transported ancestor. Lovely photos by the way. John


https://youtu.be/kS2vffK_niI

!! I wonder if that's where the distant matches are from.

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8635-English-into-the-Americas&p=188590&viewfull=1#post188590

If we compared you with Wing Genealogist and there was nothing, we could rule Banbury out.

JohnHowellsTyrfro
11-01-2016, 05:44 PM
!! I wonder if that's where the distant matches are from.

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?8635-English-into-the-Americas&p=188590&viewfull=1#post188590

If we compared you with Wing Genealogist and there was nothing, we could rule Banbury out.

I can't find the innkeepers daughter for the moment lost track of her, but one of my maternal ancestors was I think a William Newton who was born in 1780 and lived in Cropredy Oxfordshire and it looks like he married in Banbury possibly to Eliziabeth Calcott.
I'm sorry I didn't follow that thread, but if you want to compare anything, compare away. :) John

Saetro
11-01-2016, 09:33 PM
His family were primarily shepherds and drovers in the Maxey area (was County of Northampton, but is now in Cambridgeshire) - and even his crime was the theft of two cattle. From that I can only imagine that his vocation might have brought him into contact with my Norfolk great great great grandmother.

One problem that I encountered with the digitalised indexes however, were frequent mis-transcriptions through misreading the surname Peach. A search of indexes alone could have easily missed them due to some dreadful errors in transcription. I was lucky - but I picked up a lot more of the families by browsing through the filmed online registers and Bishop's Transcripts slide by slide.
Great work!
You have encountered some of the big challenges in family history and overcome them. (Surname mistranscription, moving ancestors and towns that apparently move parish or county.)
In Australia, "Peach" has another possible source. Some immigrants of German origin with the name "Paech" either chose to appear English, or had it accidentally changed by English officials. As the German original means "pitch" and metaphorically, "bad luck", it was perhaps an upgrade.
I wonder if something similar may have occurred in USA or Canada.

Your experience also illustrates a general case.
Ancestry has wonderful resources, but the indexes can contain errors, so alternative tactics such as you used are helpful.
(Please note that Ancestry welcomes notification of errors, and does update to include the amended text, so please tell them and help others.)
(They have also replaced error-plagued indexes with better ones when they become available.)