View Full Version : Georgia DNA project and early branches of R1b

05-17-2013, 03:37 PM
Dick H pointed this out and it deserves a thread here. Georgia is on eastern coast of the Black Sea and encompasses some mountainous regions in the Caucasus. The Georgia project has done a nice of job of putting together some recruits.

An interesting haplotype is this one. True R1b1*. It would be great for him to test for L389.
216826 Kaikhosro Javakhishvili M343+, P25+, P297-, M18-, M269-, M335-, M73-, V88-

It looks like there are a number of R1b-L23*. This would be where Z2103/Z2105 and even L51 testing would be important.


I would like to inform everyone, that we have over 150 new haplotypes
in the Georgian DNA Project -

One of our Universities recently started an ethnogenetic research
project of Georgian populations which is still ongoing.

A part of the samples, namely, Svans
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svan_people), Megrels
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingrelians), Kakhetians
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakheti) and Laz
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laz_people), was sent to FTDNA for 37
marker testing.

Since they're still collecting and testing other samples, the official
paper probably won't be published until the end of the year, so I
persuaded them to make the FTDNA samples public and you can see them
at our project page.

We would really appreciate any advice or information about grouping,
origins, connections of specific subclades and lines. Unfortunately,
we don't have financial means to order any upgrades, so we're hoping
for the support and interest from the community.

Best Regards,

Jemal Gogitidze
Georgian DNA Project Administrator http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENEALOGY-DNA/2013-05/1368094182

The project link is http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Georgia/default.aspx?section=yresults

05-17-2013, 08:15 PM
216826 Javakhishvili Kaikhosro Javakhishvili, b.c. 15??, Georgia R1b1 R-P25 M18-, M269-, M335-, M343+, M73-, P25+, P297-, V88-

_R1b1* (L389+) Cluster B1 [M335-]
216826 Javakhishvili Kaikhosro Javakhishvili, b.c. 15??, Georgia Georgia R1b1

From www.worldfamilies.net: Re: Is Javakhishvili R-M335? by Maliclavelli
Re: Vizachero&Behar: the reassessment of R1b1* by Maliclavelli
Re: Answer to Jarman about the Robbins (R-L23/L150+) by Maliclavelli
Re: A Change in Research Paradigm RE R1b? by Mikewww

[Please explain in sentences what your reply is about rather than list subject lines and provide a generic URL and letting us do multiple searches, if that is what you had in mind. I'm good with having reference links but please explain what your points are. Essentially, this is devoid of content and could be deleted. :speaking as a Moderator EDIT: additional replies appeared to be off-topic so I'm moved them to their own thread]

I take it someone thinks this guy is L389+. Do we know?