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jortita
02-14-2017, 04:02 AM
I received my results two weeks ahead of schedule and have attached my autosomal map

The ancestry breakdown is

South Asia 66.4%
Indian Subcontinent 56.5%
Pashtun 8.4%
Burusho 1.5%

Asia East 21.9%
North China 11.8%
Southwest China 5%
Southeast Asia 2.7%
South China 2.4%

World (unassigned) 4.8%

Further unassigned 6.9%

These results are quite different from Ancestry and FTDNA/Geno as the two did not provide such detailed breakdown on my East Asian Ancestry. I am not sure about the nearly 12% North China ancestry as my known East Asian 14055ancestry is more Southwest China and Southeast Asia.

My YDNA is identified as R-Z93 which is consistent with both my Geno 2.0 and my FTDNA Y DNA 67 Test. My MTDNA is shown as M5 which is very different from both Geno 2.0 next gen and FTDNA Full MTDNA test which pointed to M13C

Hopefully, my unassigned percentages will get assigned with further improvements14055

ancestryfan1994
02-14-2017, 04:23 AM
How does it stack up against your actual ancestry?

jortita
02-14-2017, 04:31 AM
As I am Assamese, I am of mixed ancestry and we are not aware of our actual real ancestry. We do not have the caste system in Assam and all ethnic groups inter marry. However the North China ancestry is quite surprising as my known ancestry is Tibeto Burmese, Daiic and Austro Asiatic. My MTDNA haplogroup is somewhat of a surprise as both Geno 2.0 next gen and FTDNA pointed to M13C

Jessie
02-14-2017, 04:37 AM
I received my results two weeks ahead of schedule and have attached my autosomal map

The ancestry breakdown is

South Asia 66.4%
Indian Subcontinent 56.5%
Pashtun 8.4%
Burusho 1.5%

Asia East 21.9%
North China 11.8%
Southwest China 5%
Southeast Asia 2.7%
South China 2.4%

World (unassigned) 4.8%

Further unassigned 6.9%

These results are quite different from Ancestry and FTDNA/Geno as the two did not provide such detailed breakdown on my East Asian Ancestry. I am not sure about the nearly 12% North China ancestry as my known East Asian 14055ancestry is more Southwest China and Southeast Asia.

My YDNA is identified as R-Z93 which is consistent with both my Geno 2.0 and my FTDNA Y DNA 67 Test. My MTDNA is shown as M5 which is very different from both Geno 2.0 next gen and FTDNA Full MTDNA test which pointed to M13C

Hopefully, my unassigned percentages will get assigned with further improvements14055

Two weeks ahead. Hopefully mine will be as well. :)

Oleg (Rus)
02-14-2017, 09:23 AM
Thank you for your feedback. Do your South Asian and East Asian percentages match other tests?

jortita
02-14-2017, 09:27 AM
The East Asian percentages are higher in other tests, I still have 11.7% that is unassigned

jortita
02-14-2017, 09:28 AM
The other tests that I have done are Ancestry DNA and Geno 2.0 next generation which are possibly not comparable for ancestry

Celt_??
02-14-2017, 07:09 PM
I received my results two weeks ahead of schedule and have attached my autosomal map.... I am not sure about the nearly 12% North China ancestry as my known ancestry is more Southwest China and Southeast Asia.....My YDNA is identified as R1a R-Z93

14054

Here in the USA, public television (PBS) had an interesting program entitled "NOVA: Secrets of the Sky Tombs" of India. DNA from the ancient bones determined that their Haplogroup was from a Chinese population who had crossed the Himalayan Mountains from the north.

Here is a 30 sec. bit on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zS_ALdf2e8

Google: "Secrets of the Sky Tombs"

Celt_??
02-14-2017, 07:10 PM
Duplicate due to "Stay on Page" issue

jortita
02-15-2017, 03:07 AM
Thanks celt, this refers to tibet and ladakh which is southwest china and not North china. I am a little confused on why I am showing significant north china when I have no ancestry from north china and more from southwest china and southeast Asia.

sktibo
02-15-2017, 03:40 AM
Thanks celt, this refers to tibet and ladakh which is southwest china and not North china. I am a little confused on why I am showing significant north china when I have no ancestry from north china and more from southwest china and southeast Asia.

Could be that those areas are similar and they have more samples from north China?

Celt_??
02-15-2017, 03:50 AM
Thanks celt, this refers to tibet and ladakh which is southwest china and not North china. I am a little confused on why I am showing significant north china when I have no ancestry from north china and more from southwest china and southeast Asia.

I'm curious so I will review the NOVA video again to learn the Haplogroup of the ancient bones. I'll post back.

jortita
02-15-2017, 04:06 AM
I am waiting for my myheritage DNA results, which has East Asian ancestry broken down into: 1. Korean, 2. Chinese, 3. Austronesian, 4. Cambodian/Thai and 5. nepali. Should receive the results in two weeks from now

jortita
02-15-2017, 04:06 AM
I know that nepali is not an ancestry group, but they probably are referring to Sherpa/Tamang/Subba which are Tibeto-Burmese

jortita
02-15-2017, 04:10 AM
Could be that those areas are similar and they have more samples from north China?

I do not think this is the case, I am of the view that at the moment they have very few non British samples. Southwest China and North China are definitely similar. I have written to them asking them to check my results and also my MTDNA group which in this case is shown as South Asian while the other tests gave me M13C which is East Asian

jortita
02-15-2017, 09:08 AM
For comparison, my WeGene results using Ancestry DNA autosomal results:

South Asian 73.33%
Sindhi 55.49%
Bengali 14.21%
Indian 4.06%

Chinese - 16.72%
Naxi/Yi - 9.63%
Southern Han Chinese - 4.91%
Mongolian - 1.81%
Lahu - 0.35%

Southeast Asian - 5.90%
Thai - 3.74%
Cambodian - 2.15%

Oceanian - 2.36%


European - 1.22%

Northern Han Chinese - 0%

Celt_??
02-15-2017, 03:25 PM
I received my results two weeks ahead of schedule and have attached my autosomal map

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I was able to find the full length NOVA program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvGVYBsVclw (one hour in length) The segment from the 26 min through 33 min discusses their DNA and shows in detail how 100 mg of DNA was obtained from teeth in an ultraclean laboratory and how it was processed. They were able to perform a "full sequence".

The Sky People were not genetically related to any groups living in India today. All 5 DNA samples were similar and they most resembled the peoples of "East Asia", including Han Chinese, Tibetans, Sherpa and even some Japanese. Unfortunately, the program did not mention the Y-DNA haplogroup or mt-DNA haplogroup although I presume they are known.

khanabadoshi
02-24-2017, 04:11 PM
I've tested as well Jortita, I'll post here when I get my results. Yours have been very interesting. I'm curious how I will be broken down.

jortita
02-25-2017, 02:51 AM
I've tested as well Jortita, I'll post here when I get my results. Yours have been very interesting. I'm curious how I will be broken down.

Khana, when are your livingdna results expected?

khanabadoshi
02-25-2017, 05:17 AM
Khana, when are your livingdna results expected?


I'm not sure. I'd assume in the next few weeks? Its been in the testing phase for 3-4 weeks now.

ollie444
02-28-2017, 06:21 PM
Hi jortita,

What does your 'Through History' section look like?

khanabadoshi
03-14-2017, 09:14 PM
I received my results two weeks ahead of schedule and have attached my autosomal map

The ancestry breakdown is

South Asia 66.4%
Indian Subcontinent 56.5%
Pashtun 8.4%
Burusho 1.5%

Asia East 21.9%
North China 11.8%
Southwest China 5%
Southeast Asia 2.7%
South China 2.4%

World (unassigned) 4.8%

Further unassigned 6.9%

These results are quite different from Ancestry and FTDNA/Geno as the two did not provide such detailed breakdown on my East Asian Ancestry. I am not sure about the nearly 12% North China ancestry as my known East Asian ancestry is more Southwest China and Southeast Asia.

My YDNA is identified as R-Z93 which is consistent with both my Geno 2.0 and my FTDNA Y DNA 67 Test. My MTDNA is shown as M5 which is very different from both Geno 2.0 next gen and FTDNA Full MTDNA test which pointed to M13C

Hopefully, my unassigned percentages will get assigned with further improvements


I got my results!


https://i.gyazo.com/d4596ce2e2f66825f633593401090a02.png

jortita
03-15-2017, 12:52 AM
I got my results!


https://i.gyazo.com/d4596ce2e2f66825f633593401090a02.png

Khana, 11.6% still needs to be assigned for you

khanabadoshi
03-15-2017, 01:13 AM
Khana, 11.6% still needs to be assigned for you

Oh wow, you are correct. I didn't notice!

Assigned = 86.8%

I assumed the World (Unassigned) = 1.6 was the total not assigned... but it's 11.6 + the 1.6. So 13.2%

How much of yours isn't assigned?

jortita
03-15-2017, 01:43 AM
Oh wow, you are correct. I didn't notice!

Assigned = 86.8%

I assumed the World (Unassigned) = 1.6 was the total not assigned... but it's 11.6 + the 1.6. So 13.2%

How much of yours isn't assigned?

11.7% including the World (Unassigned)

JMcB
03-15-2017, 02:38 AM
Oh wow, you are correct. I didn't notice!

Assigned = 86.8%

I assumed the World (Unassigned) = 1.6 was the total not assigned... but it's 11.6 + the 1.6. So 13.2%

How much of yours isn't assigned?

It looks like they left off an unassigned regional category somewhere. Usually they indicated where they're giving you an unassigned readings.

For example mine is:
Great Britain & Ireland (unassigned) - 8.3 %
Europe (unassigned)- 4.4 %
World (unassigned) - 1.2 %

That's too large of an amount to be missing. I would email them and ask them what's up.

jortita
03-15-2017, 03:06 AM
JmcB, I am waiting for their complete mode, I have already emailed them on the unassigned and there has been no response

Kulin
03-15-2017, 03:15 AM
As I am Assamese, I am of mixed ancestry and we are not aware of our actual real ancestry. We do not have the caste system in Assam and all ethnic groups inter marry. However the North China ancestry is quite surprising as my known ancestry is Tibeto Burmese, Daiic and Austro Asiatic. My MTDNA haplogroup is somewhat of a surprise as both Geno 2.0 next gen and FTDNA pointed to M13C

Really? As far I know, there are separate groups such as Brahmins, Kalitas etc. The caste system probably does, exist, but its probably relaxed like in Bengal.

jortita
03-15-2017, 03:41 AM
Really? As far I know, there are separate groups such as Brahmins, Kalitas etc. The caste system probably does, exist, but its probably relaxed like in Bengal.

Not in upper Assam and Kalitas are not a caste, I am a mix of Kalita, Sutiya and Ahom. Assam cannot be equated with Bengal as we were an independent Ahom kingdom for 600 years, Saikia being infantry officers were part of the Ahom army that defeated the Mughals 16 times

Kulin
03-15-2017, 04:25 AM
Not in upper Assam and Kalitas are not a caste, I am a mix of Kalita, Sutiya and Ahom. Assam cannot be equated with Bengal as we were an independent Ahom kingdom for 600 years, Saikia being infantry officers were part of the Ahom army that defeated the Mughals 16 times

Hmm, interesting, but the 'hierarchical varna system' has been obsolete for a long time now, its a community/jati based system everywhere, and the presence of those communities (not caste per se) is what I mean by my earlier comment.

Yes, Assamese are different, but I understand Asamiya btw.

khanabadoshi
03-15-2017, 11:24 AM
It looks like they left off an unassigned regional category somewhere. Usually they indicated where they're giving you an unassigned readings.

For example mine is:
Great Britain & Ireland (unassigned) - 8.3 %
Europe (unassigned)- 4.4 %
World (unassigned) - 1.2 %

That's too large of an amount to be missing. I would email them and ask them what's up.


JmcB, I am waiting for their complete mode, I have already emailed them on the unassigned and there has been no response


I will e-mail them eventually regarding the unassigned %. However, I'm sure with an update or 2, they will address the issue on their own.

I wonder if they have acquired samples of non-British UK Citizens? There are many South Asians living in the UK. I really thought that a MIB sample (Mirpuri-in-Bradford) would be developed and used as a standard by LivingDNA, similar to the 1000 Genomes GIH (Gujarati-in-Houston) sample. Haha! Well, I am joking, but still -- one might expect a British DNA company to have a significant database of the larger/largest minority groups in the region?

How were your haplogroups? My y-DNA: R1a-Z283. My mtDNA: A
Very general and unspecific. Yet in the history/coverage of each they were specific. ie. my y-DNA means my ancestor was Kurgan. There is 100% coverage of my mtDNA for Inuit. etc etc.

jortita
03-16-2017, 12:58 AM
Hi Khana, as you will see from my first post they have identified my Y DNA as R1a1, which is the same as for Geno 2.0 and FTDNA Y DNA 37 markers test. My MTDNA is identified as M5 which is South Asian as compared to M13C by Geno 2.0 and Basal M by FTDNA

Exosuits
03-16-2017, 01:37 AM
I got my results!

I like how they have broken down the East and South Asian categories. By the way how did you enlarge your image attachments?

JMcB
03-16-2017, 03:15 AM
..... How were your haplogroups? My y-DNA: R1a-Z283. My mtDNA: A
Very general and unspecific. Yet in the history/coverage of each they were specific. ie. my y-DNA means my ancestor was Kurgan. There is 100% coverage of my mtDNA for Inuit. etc etc.

Hello Khana,

They did fairly well on my YDNA. They gave me I-S2169 which is better than FTDNA's 67 marker prediction of I-M253. On the other hand, it's pretty far upstream from what I really am (Y7198) but for this type of test I think they did pretty good. My MtDNA results were H1 and to be honest I don't know enough about that Haplogroup to comment at this point. Although, it does look pretty bare bones.

Like you I have a decent percentage (13.9) of unassigned I'd like to see squared away, so hopefully they'll come out with their alternative modes in the near future. Perhaps, that'll solve some of the problems.

deadly77
03-16-2017, 04:25 AM
Hello Khana,

They did fairly well on my YDNA. They gave me I-S2169 which is better than FTDNA's 67 marker prediction of I-M253. On the other hand, it's pretty far upstream from what I really am (Y7198) but for this type of test I think they did pretty good. My MtDNA results were H1 and to be honest I don't know enough about that Haplogroup to comment at this point. Although, it does look pretty bare bones.

Like you I have a decent percentage (13.9) of unassigned I'd like to see squared away, so hopefully they'll come out with their alternative modes in the near future. Perhaps, that'll solve some of the problems.

I agree that they did fairly well with my Y and mt DNA and I'm happy with what came out of it. From 23andme, I got I-M253 and J1c1. Livingdna gave me I-Z2535 and J1c1b2. The mtDNA haplogroup designation matched the full sequence result from FTDNA, so I figure that's pretty good. My Y-DNA will be refined further when I get my Y Elite results but Livingdna is significantly downstream of 23andme or FTDNA STR prediction which were both I-M253.

JMcB
03-16-2017, 02:40 PM
I agree that they did fairly well with my Y and mt DNA and I'm happy with what came out of it. From 23andme, I got I-M253 and J1c1. Livingdna gave me I-Z2535 and J1c1b2. The mtDNA haplogroup designation matched the full sequence result from FTDNA, so I figure that's pretty good. My Y-DNA will be refined further when I get my Y Elite results but Livingdna is significantly downstream of 23andme or FTDNA STR prediction which were both I-M253.

That is pretty good. It'll also be interesting to see how refined their results get once they finish running everything through their new chip.

khanabadoshi
03-23-2017, 04:47 AM
I like how they have broken down the East and South Asian categories. By the way how did you enlarge your image attachments?

I actually use a site/program call Gyazo. It takes a screenshot and/or GIF of what I select and automatically uploads it online. Pretty convenient. Most of what I post image-wise is via this.

Bleuteufel
04-06-2017, 05:10 PM
Well here are my results 1/2 African American, 1/4 mostly North German, 1/4 mostly Latvian

Europe 50.5%
Europe East 22.9%
Baltics 16.4%
Mordovia 6.5%
Europe (North and West) 16.3%
Germanic 16.3%
Great Britain and Ireland 11.2%
Southeast England 6.2%
East Anglia 3.4%
South Yorkshire 1.6%

Africa 46.8%
Yorubaland 29.7%
East Africa 10.4%
Mandinka 6.7%

Asia (east) 1.2%
Southeast Asia 1.2%

World Unassigned 1.6%

overall happy with results as they should improve with time. I get more German here which is accurate get less on 23andme. The English is probably also German as I am maybe 2-3% British max though South Yorkshire is interesting. Hopefully the African will get more broken down with updates in the coming years. The Southeast Asian is on high end of what I get on Gedmatch calculators but I very likely have a Madagascan ancestor. still waiting on haplogroups.

wombatofthenorth
04-07-2017, 04:19 AM
Well here are my results 1/2 African American, 1/4 mostly North German, 1/4 mostly Latvian

Europe 50.5%
Europe East 22.9%
Baltics 16.4%
Mordovia 6.5%
Europe (North and West) 16.3%
Germanic 16.3%
Great Britain and Ireland 11.2%
Southeast England 6.2%
East Anglia 3.4%
South Yorkshire 1.6%

Africa 46.8%
Yorubaland 29.7%
East Africa 10.4%
Mandinka 6.7%

Asia (east) 1.2%
Southeast Asia 1.2%

World Unassigned 1.6%

overall happy with results as they should improve with time. I get more German here which is accurate get less on 23andme. The English is probably also German as I am maybe 2-3% British max though South Yorkshire is interesting. Hopefully the African will get more broken down with updates in the coming years. The Southeast Asian is on high end of what I get on Gedmatch calculators but I very likely have a Madagascan ancestor. still waiting on haplogroups.

Seems like a pretty decent result considering.

Bleuteufel
04-07-2017, 01:32 PM
Wombat have you seen a result for a full Latvian or Lithuanian?

wombatofthenorth
04-08-2017, 03:42 AM
Wombat have you seen a result for a full Latvian or Lithuanian?

for this test, unfortunately no
that would be very interesting
especially to see a few different ones, like one with a touch of Baltic German and other and one who scores 99% Eastern European on 23

jortita
05-16-2017, 09:48 AM
My Living DNA Results slightly changed

Asia (South) 66.3%

Indian subcontinent 53.7%
Pashtun 10.3%
Burusho 2.2%

Asia (East) 21.4%

North China 14.6%
Southeast Asia 2.5%
South China 2.2%
Southwest China 2.2%

Asia (Central) 1.2%
Chuvashia 1.2%

World (unassigned) 1.4%

Still have 11.1% to be assigned

This is in comparison with previous results

Asia (South) 66.4%
Indian subcontinent 56.5%
Pashtun 8.4%
Burusho 1.5%
Asia (East) 21.9%
North China 11.8%
Southeast Asia 2.7%
South China 2.4%
Southwest China 5%
World (unassigned) 4.8%

My MTDNA haplogroup changed to M13C which is the same as FTDNA full MTDNA test

sktibo
05-16-2017, 10:09 AM
My Living DNA Results slightly changed

Asia (South) 66.3%

Indian subcontinent 53.7%
Pashtun 10.3%
Burusho 2.2%

Asia (East) 21.4%

North China 14.6%
Southeast Asia 2.5%
South China 2.2%
Southwest China 2.2%

Asia (Central) 1.2%
Chuvashia 1.2%

World (unassigned) 1.4%

Still have 11.1% to be assigned

This is in comparison with previous results

Asia (South) 66.4%
Indian subcontinent 56.5%
Pashtun 8.4%
Burusho 1.5%
Asia (East) 21.9%
North China 11.8%
Southeast Asia 2.7%
South China 2.4%
Southwest China 5%
World (unassigned) 4.8%

My MTDNA haplogroup changed to M13C which is the same as FTDNA full MTDNA test

awesome to see people getting their results corrected.
do you think the new results are better/ more accurate?
did your unassigned amount increase?
thanks

Pylsteen
05-16-2017, 10:38 AM
My Living DNA Results slightly changed



That's interesting, that they increased your North Chinese and decreased you South(West)Chinese. I don't know the history of Assam, but I somehow would expect the opposite.

jortita
05-16-2017, 11:26 AM
That's interesting, that they increased your North Chinese and decreased you South(West)Chinese. I don't know the history of Assam, but I somehow would expect the opposite.

Pylsteen, it would be interesting to see how these results translate to Gedmatch when soon the Living Raw Data will be downloaded. I have a feeling some of the Tibeto Burmese ethnicities of Yunnan might be included in North China as well as possibly even Dai. I might be mistaken

Babatunde
05-25-2017, 02:24 PM
I'm largely non-ethnic European (50% Nigerian, 25% Ghanaian, 25% British) so I thought I'd might as well post here:

Africa 75.6%
Yorubaland 61.3%
East Africa 10.7%
Mandinka 3.6%

Europe 21.6%
Great Britain and Ireland 13.2%
South Central England 4.1%
Cornwall 3.8%
Lincolnshire 3.6%
South Yorkshire 1.7%

Europe (North and West) 8.4%
Scandinavia 8.4%

Asia (East) 1.3%
South China 1.3%

World (unassigned) 1.5%

Fatherline: I-L22
Motherline: L1b1a9

Some thoughts:

1.) I'm a bit annoyed with Africa's genetic diversity (the most on the planet) not being better represented here; In comparison, Asia (South), alone, has more population references and that's a bit ridiculous. And within the British context that LivingDNA operates, Ghana and Nigeria are former British colonies and so there should at least be more specificity given within those populations, IMO.

2.) I expected to see some East Anglia (at least about 5%) and a bit more South Yorkshire but perhaps that's being represented by the Scandinavian estimate.

3.) Very surprised by the 3.8% Cornwall--it matches up with an unaccounted for ancestor that I had hopefully but wrongfully surmised was Irish or Scottish; My father and I are both freckled with auburn hair and foolishly attributed that to the fiery headed "Celts" most approximate to us.

4.) Unanticipated Asian DNA is a recurring theme for me on multiple DNA tests and on Gedmatch, I seem to match a few people who are Indonesian, Taiwanese and African-Americans with reported Malagasy heritage. I'm still trying to figure this one out.

P.S> Did we lose the ability to attach thumbnails?

Pylsteen
05-25-2017, 04:02 PM
I'm largely non-ethnic European (50% Nigerian, 25% Ghanaian, 25% British) so I thought I'd might as well post here:

4.) Unanticipated Asian DNA is a recurring theme for me on multiple DNA tests and on Gedmatch, I seem to match a few people who are Indonesian, Taiwanese and African-Americans with reported Malagasy heritage. I'm still trying to figure this one out.


I can only think of merchants; Along the coast there were many posts. Examples may be Elmina (under Dutch rule, maybe they brought some people from the Asian colonies?), or South Africa, or Zanzibar, where lots of mixtures happened.

Bleuteufel
06-20-2017, 02:12 AM
Well My results have changed with the 3 new modes.

Here is my complete:

Europe 51.5%
Europe North and West 28.6%
Germanic 28.6%
Europe East 19.5%
Baltic 13.1%
Mordovia 6.4%
Great Britain and Ireland 3.3%
England and Wales 3.3%

Africa 45.7%
Yorubaland 29.3%
East Africa 9.9%
Mandinka 6.5%

Asia (South) 1.7%
Pashtun 1.7%

Asia (central) 1.1%
Northwest Caucasus 1.1%

Well the Germanic has improved to more what it should be. Not sure of Pashtun I seem to get a bit from both parents looking at other peoples' results Prof. McDonald did say my dad had some Pakistani heritage it looked like and he did give me some Indian on his analysis so it could be mix real and relic of European in general.

Mike_G
06-20-2017, 02:26 AM
Well My results have changed with the 3 new modes.

Here is my complete:

Europe 51.5%
Europe North and West 28.6%
Germanic 28.6%
Europe East 19.5%
Baltic 13.1%
Mordovia 6.4%
Great Britain and Ireland 3.3%
England and Wales 3.3%

Africa 45.7%
Yorubaland 29.3%
East Africa 9.9%
Mandinka 6.5%

Asia (South) 1.7%
Pashtun 1.7%

Asia (central) 1.1%
Northwest Caucasus 1.1%

Well the Germanic has improved to more what it should be. Not sure of Pashtun I seem to get a bit from both parents looking at other peoples' results Prof. McDonald did say my dad had some Pakistani heritage it looked like and he did give me some Indian on his analysis so it could be mix real and relic of European in general.

I gotta say that's one of the coolest looking mixes I've seen here.

jortita
06-20-2017, 03:18 AM
Not sure about complete mode, but cautious seems in line, even though I feel that my East Asian ancestry is underestimated by all these DNA testing companies 170711707217073

Xtian
06-20-2017, 09:14 AM
@ Babatunde

Interesting results

3.) Very surprised by the 3.8% Cornwall--it matches up with an unaccounted for ancestor that I had hopefully but wrongfully surmised was Irish or Scottish; My father and I are both freckled with auburn hair and foolishly attributed that to the fiery headed "Celts" most approximate to us.

Btw Cornwall is Celtic, part of the Brythonic Celts of Wales, Cornwall and Brittany in France. The Gaelic Celts are Irish and Western Scots.

jortita
06-20-2017, 09:20 AM
MDLP K23b results very different from Ancestry DNA/FTDNA results

Ancestry DNA

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Indian 40.87
2 South_Central_Asian 22.47
3 South_East_Asian 10.74
4 Caucasian 7.83
5 Austronesian 4.4
6 Tungus-Altaic 4.28
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.54
8 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.07
9 Australoid 1.98
10 North_African 1.04
11 Paleo_Siberian 0.76
12 East_Siberian 0.46
13 Arctic 0.23
14 Archaic_African 0.16
15 European_Early_Farmers 0.12
16 Archaic_Human 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tamil_Singapore ( ) 13.28
2 Hindi ( ) 14.17
3 Tiwari ( ) 14.82
4 Marathi ( ) 15.88
5 Vaish ( ) 16.3
6 Jatt_Muslim ( ) 16.47
7 Nepalese ( ) 16.95
8 Brahmin_Tamil ( ) 17.05
9 Brahmins_UP ( ) 17.13
10 GujaratiB_GIH ( ) 17.4
11 Dhaka_mixed_popul ( ) 17.58
12 Kshatriya ( ) 17.97
13 Cochin_Jew ( ) 18.4
14 Jatt_Haryana ( ) 18.6
15 TN_Brahmin ( ) 19.09
16 Pakistani ( ) 19.1
17 GujaratiA_GIH ( ) 19.53
18 Telugu_Kannada ( ) 19.87
19 Bengali ( ) 20.14
20 Jatt_Pahari ( ) 20.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 15.7% Nogai ( ) @ 5.54
2 78% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 22% Tajik_Tajikistan ( ) @ 5.85
3 76.6% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 23.4% Tajik_Afghan ( ) @ 5.96
4 86% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 14% Lak ( ) @ 6
5 86.4% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 13.6% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 6.02
6 86.1% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 13.9% Tabassaran ( ) @ 6.03
7 86.4% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 13.6% Lezgin ( ) @ 6.04
8 86.3% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 13.7% Avar ( ) @ 6.04
9 86% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 14% Dargin_Urkarah ( ) @ 6.05
10 85.7% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 14.3% Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) @ 6.07
11 87.1% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12.9% Kumyk ( ) @ 6.12
12 87.4% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12.6% Kabardin ( ) @ 6.15
13 87.1% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12.9% Cirkassian ( ) @ 6.15
14 87.4% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12.6% Chechen ( ) @ 6.16
15 88% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12% North_Ossetian ( ) @ 6.17
16 88.2% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 11.8% Ossetian ( ) @ 6.18
17 88% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12% Balkar ( ) @ 6.2
18 87.9% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12.1% Adygei ( ) @ 6.21
19 85.6% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 14.4% Azeri ( ) @ 6.22
20 88% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 12% Circassian ( ) @ 6.22

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tamil_Singapore @ 10.940511
2 Hindi @ 14.698322
3 Marathi @ 15.799178
4 Cochin_Jew @ 16.266438
5 Nepalese @ 16.562061
6 Tiwari @ 16.578566
7 Dhaka_mixed_popul @ 16.743525
8 Vaish @ 16.877016
9 Brahmins_UP @ 17.240450
10 Brahmin_Tamil @ 17.348845
11 Jatt_Muslim @ 17.684910
12 Kshatriya @ 18.004778
13 GujaratiB_GIH @ 18.167883
14 Mumbai_Jew @ 18.317902
15 Bengali @ 18.779398
16 Telugu_Kannada @ 18.899263
17 TN_Brahmin @ 19.151182
18 Pakistani @ 20.086304
19 Bengali_Bangladesh_BEB @ 20.148529
20 Meghawal @ 20.233189

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Nepalese +50% Telugu_Kannada @ 6.230970


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jatt_Pahari +25% Santhal +25% Spiti @ 3.425607


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Dhurwa + Pahari + Pathan + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 2.823857
2 Bhunjia + Pahari + Pathan + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 2.889572
3 Kharia + Pahari + Pathan + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 3.023613
4 Kharia + Pahari + Punjabi_Gujjar + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 3.210264
5 Pahari + Pathan + Punjabi_Gujjar + Santhal @ 3.212998
6 Dhurwa + Jatt_Pahari + Pakistani + Spiti @ 3.284686
7 Jatt_Pahari + Punjabi_Gujjar + Santhal + Spiti @ 3.304022
8 Pahari + Pathan + Pathan + Santhal @ 3.310184
9 Dhurwa + Jatt_Pahari + Pahari + Pathan @ 3.315622
10 Jatt_Pahari + Kharia + Pahari + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 3.336330
11 Bhunjia + Jatt_Pahari + Pakistani + Spiti @ 3.357134
12 Bhunjia + Jatt_Pahari + Pahari + Pathan @ 3.385259
13 Dhurwa + Pahari + Pathan + Pathan @ 3.394825
14 Jatt_Pahari + Jatt_Pahari + Santhal + Spiti @ 3.425607
15 Dhurwa + Jatt_Pahari + Punjabi_Gujjar + Spiti @ 3.444281
16 Jatt_Pahari + Kharia + Pahari + Pathan @ 3.450355
17 Bhunjia + Pahari + Pathan + Pathan @ 3.456956
18 Jatt_Pahari + Pakistani + Santhal + Spiti @ 3.492261
19 Dhurwa + Pakistani + Punjabi_Gujjar + Spiti @ 3.506707
20 Dhurwa + Pahari + Punjabi_Gujjar + Punjabi_Gujjar @ 3.508402

Living DNA

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Indian 43.65
2 South_Central_Asian 21.29
3 South_East_Asian 11.57
4 Austronesian 7.1
5 Caucasian 6.22
6 Australoid 2.54
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.11
8 Near_East 1.32
9 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.29
10 Tungus-Altaic 1.18
11 North_African 0.9
12 Paleo_Siberian 0.72
13 Amerindian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tamil_Singapore ( ) 10.15
2 Hindi ( ) 14.53
3 Dhaka_mixed_popul ( ) 15.65
4 Marathi ( ) 15.7
5 Tiwari ( ) 16.1
6 Vaish ( ) 16.1
7 Brahmins_UP ( ) 16.44
8 Brahmin_Tamil ( ) 17.08
9 Kshatriya ( ) 17.68
10 Telugu_Kannada ( ) 18.02
11 GujaratiB_GIH ( ) 18.14
12 Bengali ( ) 18.18
13 TN_Brahmin ( ) 18.57
14 Nepalese ( ) 19.21
15 Bengali_Bangladesh_BEB ( ) 19.21
16 Jatt_Muslim ( ) 19.28
17 Punjabi_Lahore_PJL ( ) 19.76
18 GujaratiC_GIH ( ) 19.87
19 Meghawal ( ) 20.06
20 Srivastava ( ) 20.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.1% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 28.9% Jehai ( ) @ 5.7
2 68.6% Brahmin_Tamil ( ) + 31.4% Kensiu ( ) @ 5.72
3 57.3% Burusho ( ) + 42.7% Kharia ( ) @ 5.74
4 74.8% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 25.2% Lawa ( ) @ 5.8
5 66.6% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 33.4% Kensiu ( ) @ 5.87
6 74.9% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 25.1% Wa ( ) @ 5.92
7 74.3% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 25.7% Mon ( ) @ 5.96
8 77.2% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 22.8% Karen ( ) @ 5.97
9 70.1% Vaish ( ) + 29.9% Kensiu ( ) @ 5.97
10 76.1% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 23.9% Hmong ( ) @ 5.99
11 76.8% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 23.2% Khmer_Cambodian ( ) @ 6.03
12 76.2% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 23.8% Hmong_Miao ( ) @ 6.03
13 77.8% Telugu_Kannada ( ) + 22.2% Karen ( ) @ 6.05
14 74.5% Vaish ( ) + 25.5% Jehai ( ) @ 6.06
15 74.8% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 25.2% Plang ( ) @ 6.09
16 76.7% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 23.3% She ( ) @ 6.09
17 75.5% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 24.5% Jinuo ( ) @ 6.1
18 76.9% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) + 23.1% Miao ( ) @ 6.1
19 78.9% Telugu_Kannada ( ) + 21.1% Wa ( ) @ 6.11
20 78.2% TN_Brahmin ( ) + 21.8% Plang ( ) @ 6.12

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tamil_Singapore @ 8.970334
2 Dhaka_mixed_popul @ 15.806621
3 Hindi @ 15.836347
4 Marathi @ 16.397274
5 Brahmins_UP @ 17.498724
6 Vaish @ 17.540302
7 Bengali_Bangladesh_BEB @ 17.776882
8 Bengali @ 17.860451
9 Telugu_Kannada @ 17.891977
10 Brahmin_Tamil @ 17.990030
11 Tiwari @ 18.336102
12 Cochin_Jew @ 18.432165
13 Kshatriya @ 18.703758
14 TN_Brahmin @ 19.314505
15 GujaratiB_GIH @ 19.505617
16 Nepalese @ 19.594032
17 Punjabi_Lahore_PJL @ 19.697868
18 Meghawal @ 20.166183
19 Srivastava @ 20.194359
20 GujaratiC_GIH @ 20.221186

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Onge +50% Punjabi_Gujjar @ 6.793540


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Marwadi_Middle_caste +25% Mon +25% Pakistani @ 3.636168


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Mon + Pakistani_Pushtun + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 2.975959
2 Jatt_Pahari + Marwadi_Middle_caste + Mon + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.024286
3 Mon + Pakistani_Pushtun + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + Vysya @ 3.046845
4 GujaratiC_GIH + Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.070540
5 Mon + Pakistani_Pushtun + Sakilli + Velama @ 3.086665
6 Mon + Pakistani_Pushtun + Sakilli + Velamas @ 3.176424
7 Mon + Naidu + Pakistani_Pushtun + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.185674
8 Brahmin_Tamil + Hallaki + Jatt_Pahari + Mon @ 3.187113
9 Jatt_Pahari + Mon + Muslim_India + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.188697
10 Bhili + Jatt_Pahari + Marwadi_Middle_caste + Mon @ 3.192048
11 GujaratiC_GIH + Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Vishwabrahmin @ 3.197959
12 Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Punjabi_Lahore_PJL + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.201712
13 Dusadh + Jatt_Pahari + Marwadi_Middle_caste + Mon @ 3.203801
14 GujaratiC_GIH + Kol + Mon + Mumbai_Jew @ 3.213772
15 Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu + TN_Brahmin @ 3.214210
16 Dharkar + Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Scheduled_Caste_Tamil_Nadu @ 3.220943
17 Mon + Mumbai_Jew + TN_Brahmin + Vishwabrahmin @ 3.229392
18 Dusadh + GujaratiC_GIH + Mon + Mumbai_Jew @ 3.254243
19 Mon + Mumbai_Jew + Sakilli + TN_Brahmin @ 3.262575
20 Kol + Mon + Mumbai_Jew + TN_Brahmin @ 3.266014

06-20-2017, 09:21 AM
Not sure about complete mode, but cautious seems in line, even though I feel that my East Asian ancestry is underestimated by all these DNA testing companies 170711707217073

Hi Jorita, so do you think it might be possible you could have an Anglo Indian in your family tree hidden somewhere? Also do you have a subclade for your R1a1, is it the Asian type or European?

jortita
06-20-2017, 09:53 AM
Hi Jorita, so do you think it might be possible you could have an Anglo Indian in your family tree hidden somewhere? Also do you have a subclade for your R1a1, is it the Asian type or European?

I do not think so at all and infact I have more East Asian ancestry than these calculators suggest, please check Kurd's new calculator Ancient Admixtures 11 Results. My subclade is R-Z93 which is common in Central and South Asia

jortita
06-20-2017, 09:54 AM
In fact, I might have some Central Asian ancestry but no European ancestry at all.

jortita
06-20-2017, 09:55 AM
If you see my MDLP K23b results for Living DNA Gedmatch Genesis, there is no indication of any European ancestry

sktibo
06-21-2017, 04:08 AM
Not sure about complete mode, but cautious seems in line, even though I feel that my East Asian ancestry is underestimated by all these DNA testing companies 170711707217073

Am I seeing things or is your Orkney related ancestry grouped with Spain? Can you post a screenshot for me of your Orkney group please?

jortita
10-10-2017, 04:12 AM
Updated LIVING DNA Results Cautious Mode

Asia (South) 67.4%

Indian subcontinent 52.3%
Pashtun 12.9%
Burusho 2.1%

Asia (East) 21.6%
North China 15%
Southeast Asia 2.6%
Southwest China 2%
South China 1.9%

Europe 2%

Orkney Islands 2%

Unassigned - 9.1%

timberwolf
10-10-2017, 04:45 AM
Updated LIVING DNA Results Cautious Mode

Asia (South) 67.4%

Indian subcontinent 52.3%
Pashtun 12.9%
Burusho 2.1%

Asia (East) 21.6%
North China 15%
Southeast Asia 2.6%
Southwest China 2%
South China 1.9%

Europe 2%

Orkney Islands 2%

Unassigned - 9.1%

Have you just had your results updated, or is this from the June update?

sktibo
10-10-2017, 06:43 AM
Updated LIVING DNA Results Cautious Mode

Asia (South) 67.4%

Indian subcontinent 52.3%
Pashtun 12.9%
Burusho 2.1%

Asia (East) 21.6%
North China 15%
Southeast Asia 2.6%
Southwest China 2%
South China 1.9%

Europe 2%

Orkney Islands 2%

Unassigned - 9.1%

Still got that Orkney. Would you mind telling us more about that and what they say its grouped with?

jortita
10-10-2017, 09:21 AM
I have no known ancestry from Europe as I am Assamese. Infact Living DNA is probably more closer to my real ancestry than Ancestry DNA and others, on Gedmatch Genesis 4 out of 5 top DNA matches are East Asian. I am not sure whether all the tests I have done have underestimated my East Asian ancestry and infact attributed more South Asian

jortita
10-10-2017, 09:22 AM
Have you just had your results updated, or is this from the June update?

These results were updated in mid September but forgot to post them then. My June update is in this trail

sktibo
10-10-2017, 04:40 PM
I have no known ancestry from Europe as I am Assamese. Infact Living DNA is probably more closer to my real ancestry than Ancestry DNA and others, on Gedmatch Genesis 4 out of 5 top DNA matches are East Asian. I am not sure whether all the tests I have done have underestimated my East Asian ancestry and infact attributed more South Asian

Precisely why I want to know more about your cautious Orkney grouping - we know its problematic since it was assigned to you and I'd like to know exactly which countries they grouped together so that we can highlight what their problem areas are.