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    I am an Iranian with an E2b Y-chromosome can anyone explain Historical reasons this could happen

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    Could be from Persian traders that operated on the east African coast.

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    Yeah but the my Y-DNA is East African meaning that an Iranian women would have had to go there to trade which just seems highly unlikely.

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    dear saba
    this is a rare haplogroup in iran also
    2.3% in bandari Attachment 14597
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    i see your results in another forum autosomally is you are iranian as one can get

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    Wasn't E2 found in Natufian samples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba123 View Post
    Yeah but the my Y-DNA is East African meaning that an Iranian women would have had to go there to trade which just seems highly unlikely.
    This is what I also assumed about iranian\west-asian traders in the east-african coast. I am from a clan of mixed origin from the southern somali coast. The people who tested so far are r1a1a, G2a and L-M27, J1 (and E-V32 me) paternally. Maternally, all have african Haplogroups, except for 2 people which carry K1a and H14a, which I found a bit strange. Maybe some took their wifes with them or female family members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saba123 View Post
    Yeah but the my Y-DNA is East African meaning that an Iranian women would have had to go there to trade which just seems highly unlikely.
    Some free African traders settled in Iran. Some African slaves had relatively high positions as well. The vast majority of African admixture in Iran seems to be female dominated(many Iranian traders married south East African woman and migrated back to Iran, some female slaves were probably imported as well).

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    It is not that abnormal. There are millions on Iran with the E haplogroup. Do you know anything about your family background?

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    Europeans as well as Arabs face the constant implication that haplogroup E is recently from Africa. Today, Africa is the primary source of most of Haplogroup E - but not all E haplogroups. Originally, it was believed that all Europeans were believed to be R1b but it is now known that R1b moved into Europe during the Bronze Age conquest/replacement of most of the original Europeans. This has been proven via testing of ancient remains throughout Europe. Before the Bronze Age time frame - no European ancient remains have been found to be R1b in Europe. But guess what has been found between the ending of the great Ice Age and Bronze Age - you guessed it - Haplogroup E, Q and others. Q has all but disappeared in most of western Europe but it is now believed that some of the haplogroup E found in western Europe is part of these original European haplogroup E which obviously moved there a very long time ago.

    So this means haplogroup E was present in Europe before the Bronze Age - not exactly due to any traders since they were hunter gatherer types. Now this does not mean that all haplogroup E in Europe was early Europeans as a certain amount of Haplogroup E has arrived in Europe by many means after man progressed to more than hunter gatherers (both from Africa and Arab areas). Eventually, as we get more recent branches under Haplogroup E, a lot will be African branches, some will be European and some will be Arab variations under haplogroup E. But this will take a lot of time to discover these more recent branches that can be more safely assigned to different regions of the world. But with the older branches of haplogroup E, all it really means that most are in Africa, some are in Arab areas and some are from Europe. So these early branches of haplogroup E only rule out Eastern Asia and Native Americans.
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    Yeah, I am from the southern parts of Iran not necessarily the Bandari region though. I may have some family from there but it appears to be my grandmothers mother(who was literally white as snow and had blonde hair and blue and probably Georgian or Circassian.)

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