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    German DNA Project by Living DNA


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    I have just offered my participation.
    Y-DNA: R1b/U152/Z36/CTS4333/CTS7958, from Thuringia 1634, probably Alsace 1552, -- mt-DNA: H
    EUROGENES K13: North German 3.7, North Dutch 4.85, Danish 5.13, Swedish 5.44, Norwegian 5.7 -- West Eurasia K8: WHG 46.64%, ENF 39.09%, ANE 14.23%
    23andMe: speculative 26% French&German, 11.3% Scandinavian, 9.1% Eastern European, 8.8% British&Irish, 1.6% Southern European, 38% Broadly North Euro
    Known ancestry: 92.6% German (66.8% North German), 4.7% Danish, 1.8% Czech, 0.8% Austrian, 0.1% Swiss

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    I have a German first cousin once-removed who would be perfect for this. I wonder if I can convince him to take an interest.
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    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    So far, it seems like German DNA can be broken down into 24 regions.

    The idea of trying to identify the genetic profile of the former German territories to the east is interesting.

    Source: https://learnalittleeveryday.wordpre...short-summary/

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    I am thinking about ordering their test, would be interesting if they could place all my German ancestry correctly..

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    Interesting.

    Having lived in Germany, and relatives who married Germans, I know some who would definitely qualify. Including, ironically given MatAus21's mention of the east, a close Eastern German friend that I am meeting up with this upcoming Easter Holiday (he & a cousin will, after all, be in the Americas for about two weeks). I think that's enough time to persuade him.
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    First it says if your ancestors are German, it's for you. Then it says "In order to map the history of Germany precisely, we are looking for subjects whose grandparents were born within a radius of a maximum of 80 kilometers. *". Radius of each other?

    They still want the other Germans, too, right? One set of grandparents is from Northern East Germany and the others are from Bonn/Aschaffenburg.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    First it says if your ancestors are German, it's for you. Then it says "In order to map the history of Germany precisely, we are looking for subjects whose grandparents were born within a radius of a maximum of 80 kilometers. *". Radius of each other?

    They still want the other Germans, too, right? One set of grandparents is from Northern East Germany and the others are from Bonn/Aschaffenburg.
    They ask for all grandparents to be born within a 80-kilometer radius > akin to the PoBI ideas used for England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatAust21 View Post
    So far, it seems like German DNA can be broken down into 24 regions.

    The idea of trying to identify the genetic profile of the former German territories to the east is interesting.

    Source: https://learnalittleeveryday.wordpre...short-summary/
    I believe most of the Germans who lived in the former eastern provinces were descended from western Germans who settled in the east during the Middle Ages as part of the Drang nach Osten. I doubt they are likely to very different from Germans from the western areas of Germany, who are comprised of a variety of HGs and subclades. Of course there could be some there who were part of the original inhabitants who were assimilated into the Germanic population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenHind View Post
    I believe most of the Germans who lived in the former eastern provinces were descended from western Germans who settled in the east during the Middle Ages as part of the Drang nach Osten. I doubt they are likely to very different from Germans from the western areas of Germany, who are comprised of a variety of HGs and subclades. Of course there could be some there who were part of the original inhabitants who were assimilated into the Germanic population.
    Indeed there has been plenty of movement back and forth across Germany. To say that all eastern Germans are just western Germans is, however, likely inaccurate. Such was, after all, a similar claim once made prior about Anglos and Vikings being little more than bloodthirsty savages that chewed on the bones of Britians' Celtic inhabitants who thus ceased to exist. Shame research is proving that isn't the case.

    There are, after all, Germans bearing surnames which are indicative of further eastern ancestry than simple next-door-neighbors. There is also surnames indicative of differential ancestry. Pohl for example. Can be locational [Pohl, Germany] and it can be also indicative of ancestry such as "Newman" for foreigners Pohl generally is considered to mean Pole. Besides groups like Volga Germans are typically kept separate in gedmatch for a reason > they aren't quite your run of the mill German. People like Aussiedlers found in eastern Germany [many of whom consider themselves Russian not German per census records] merely have to claim a single German ancestor & the rest can be whatever.

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