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    Can't wait for this!. I'd say im 65-70% German colonial and received 0 in my results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatAust21 View Post
    So far, it seems like German DNA can be broken down into 24 regions.

    The idea of trying to identify the genetic profile of the former German territories to the east is interesting.

    Source: https://learnalittleeveryday.wordpre...short-summary/
    24 seems like a bit much and with so much movement, I can't see more than 4-6 possibly making sense, but one could always just do that after the fact so i guess it doesn't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntG View Post
    Now this is pretty wicked.
    K8: French East/German South/Austrian 26%, French North East/Belgian/German West 25%, French North 25%, Irish/Scottish/Welsh 10%, French South/French Basque 9%, German East/Czech/Austrian 5%
    K36: French East/German South/Swiss German 33%, French North East/Belgian/German West 31%, French North Central 21%, Irish/Scottish/Welsh 9%, French South/ French Basque 6%
    K16: German 50%, French North West 19%, French North East 11%, Irish/English 11%, French South 9%

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    I hope they will include the Netherlands too. I believe it is possible to distinguish Frisia and Brabant/Limburg. Holland will be more difficult because of its urban history.

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    I have just been admitted to this Project (apparently as one of the first 100 participants):

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post226545

    If you have a kit and are eligible to join the Project, autosomal transfer is free of charge:

    https://www.livingdna.com/de/deutsch...schungsprojekt

    (...) oder bestehende DNA Resultate von anderen Anbietern gratis an uns übertragen (23andME, Ancestry.com, Family Tree DNA usw.). (...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenHind View Post
    I believe most of the Germans who lived in the former eastern provinces were descended from western Germans who settled in the east during the Middle Ages as part of the Drang nach Osten. I doubt they are likely to very different from Germans from the western areas of Germany, who are comprised of a variety of HGs and subclades. Of course there could be some there who were part of the original inhabitants who were assimilated into the Germanic population.
    I think you are wrong, considering what this lady scores in GEDmatch calculators:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post218693

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post226074

    In every PCA, she plots to the east of present-day East Germans (DDR Germans).

    And even present-day East (DDR) Germans are very different from West Germans.

    I won't even mention haplogroup frequencies, you can just check my old threads:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post158785

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post175421

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post176774

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post199957
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    They just accepted my participation. My grand parents are German, but clearly not from a 80 km radius. I could provide dna results, what seems to be a criteria as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGerman View Post
    My grand parents are German, but clearly not from a 80 km radius.
    They are accepting the first 100 people whose grandparents are not from a 80 km radius.

    After that, they will be accepting only people whose grandparents are from such a radius.

    In my case the radius is exactly 80 km, so I'm not sure in which group will they count me.

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    Edit:

    I have contacted some more people who will join their Project:

    1) One person with all ancestors hailing from the borderlands between Kreis Preußisch Stargard, Kreis Tuchel, Kreis Konitz and Kreis Schwetz (all these in West Prussia) back to at least 1773 AD.

    2) One person with all ancestors from Kreis Jarotschin back to at least 1800 AD.

    Quote Originally Posted by CelticGerman View Post
    I could provide dna results, what seems to be a criteria as well.
    If you want it for free, then yes. If you don't have DNA results, you must pay 89 €:

    https://www.livingdna.com/en/german-...te&PID=7135878

    - Transfer your DNA from another provider Free of Charge (23andME, Ancestry.com, FTDNA and others)
    - Take a Living DNA test at a special project price of 89 € (RRP 159 €)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    If you want it for free, then yes. If you don't have DNA results, you must pay 89 €:

    https://www.livingdna.com/en/german-...te&PID=7135878

    That freebie is a definite lure.

    I've already talked someone (my colleague) whose ancestry to the 1700s is all Baden-Württemberg [rural, should be the Upper Rhine & Black Forest category LivingDNA has] within the 80 km radius. A Bavarian [near Ansbach, working on another with ancestry near Deggendorf], and someone from Nordrhein-Westfalen/North Rhine-Westphalia (North) into this. I'll see if I can talk my cousin's spouse [Saarland] into this and I know of a very good example of someone from Meck-Pomm as well.

    I hestitate with others as well they're Jewish and as I said to you elsewhere LivingDNA didn't seem to think of a Jewish category for this*.




    *I said this in the German section of the forums, but for others who may not be following the post there, I have asked LivingDNA about a Jewish cluster given, as said above, some of the Germans I know who would qualify are Jewish. LivingDNA's response: For the time being we are not planning to have a Jewish cluster, however we will pass this feedback on to the wider research team. As the questionaire doesn't ask religion I am curious as to what they'd do with any Jewish Germans who submit samples.
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