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    Ethnic confirmation of Adyghe origin?

    I have written in a different post about my question. However, this might deserve a different thread.

    My ancestors from my mother side is known to have a Turkish origin, this is clear.

    And ancestors from my father side are told to be migrated from Caucasia and have Adyghe ethnicity. The migration that I am referring is less than 200 years.

    My understanding is that all these tests mentioned here are not perfect tools to tell about ethnicity. Especially with only a few generations past.

    However, I wonder if that is possible. Can I confirm the origin of Adyghe in my ancestory.

    If I was to be tested it is obvious that I will have strong Minor Asia content. Since Turkish and Adyghe ethnicity are so close, which test would be best to answer my questions considering there is a limited number of samples from this part of the world.

    Reading about the companies and comparing in between them, I tend to purchase Living DNA tests. Would it be a good choice? Would one offer a better solution to my question?

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    Multiple gedmatch calculators will give a good indialcation. Why dont you test your father first?
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    I thought some of the tests are related to mother line. Testing my father would ignore my mother line all together. Right??

    What is the basis of your suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    Multiple gedmatch calculators will give a good indialcation.
    Does that mean I can choose any of the companies and their raw data could be used gedmatch calculators?

    If that is the case, what would be the cheapest option? Thanks for the suggestions by the way.

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    I think The best way to detect your ancestral origin from your father side is to have Y dna test

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhan View Post
    Does that mean I can choose any of the companies and their raw data could be used gedmatch calculators?

    If that is the case, what would be the cheapest option? Thanks for the suggestions by the way.
    Yes exactly. I think ftdna is the way to go, especially for ydna.
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    yes you can confirm adyghe ancestry or at least something close to it. my father-in-law is of adyghe origin. his test result puts him as closest to abkhaz or georgian. his caucasian component is much higher than the turks. to discover his adyghe origin however you dont need a genetic test . normally adyghe people speak an adyghe dialect and have tribal/clan associations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    however you dont need a genetic test . normally adyghe people speak an adyghe dialect and have tribal/clan associations.
    Thank you very much for the answer. This is my dilemma actually, As you correctly stated "normally adyghe people speak an adyghe dialect and have tribal/clan associations". We don't have any of this.

    Our understanding is that they migrated from Caucasia around 1850, that matches with the general concept of "1864 migration from Caucasia to Anatolia"; and they established a village in Malatya named Alhanuşağı, after their name "Alhan".

    But the Adyghe dialect is not spoken in the village, not even a word. The explanation for this is that "they needed to hide their ethnicity!". I know that many Caucasion origined people lived in Anatolia peacefully. If they weren't so certain about being "«erkes", I would just ignore what they are saying.

    That's the reasoning beyond my Genetic test queries This way I can indirectly confirm their claim

    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    yes you can confirm adyghe ancestry or at least something close to it. my father-in-law is of adyghe origin. his test result puts him as closest to abkhaz or georgian. his caucasian component is much higher than the turks.
    Can you elaborate more on "caucasian component"? Are we talking about G2 haplogroup? If it is not too much trouble can you share his test results?

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    Best way of detecting your Adygie ancestry is YDNA test as far as your pathernal side suppose to come from Adygie. In FTDNA 37 Marker test would be good for begining.

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    I've heard that "Cherkez" was the generic name for all Caucasian migrants to Turkey. You wouldn't necessarily be Circassian if you have no tribal affiliations that you know about, but you could be something else like Ossete/Alan, or even Caucasian Turkic people such as Balkars or Kumyk etc.

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