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    The results you posted are from autosomal tests. Ydna connects on an individual level, not on a population level, so you have to have matches with confirmed adyghe ancestry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    The results you posted are from autosomal tests.
    This is great. That means I can have Family Finder and still have those test results.

    How about haplogroup and subclade information?
    Does Family Finder has anything on haplogroup or subclade information?

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    Dear Alhan, Y-chromosome test would not be very informative because at that level most of the subclades of the Caucasian people are not distinguishable from other Euroasians. None of the Caucasian groups are composed of a single Y-haplogroup. On the other hand family finder results are useful if the sample is NOT of mixed ethnic origins. In my opinion you should start with family finder of people with single origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    Dear Alhan, Y-chromosome test would not be very informative because at that level most of the subclades of the Caucasian people are not distinguishable from other Euroasians. None of the Caucasian groups are composed of a single Y-haplogroup. On the other hand family finder results are useful if the sample is NOT of mixed ethnic origins. In my opinion you should start with family finder of people with single origins.
    Wrong, there are several distinctly Caucasian Y-DNA lineages out there.
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


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    Yes but you have to pay a lot to get to that level, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    Yes but you have to pay a lot to get to that level, no?
    Depends on the marker, take J1 for instance, we can pretty much tell whether you belong to a Caucasian branch with a simple 12 STR test.
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
    Depends on the marker, take J1 for instance, we can pretty much tell whether you belong to a Caucasian branch with a simple 12 STR test.
    So far I was offered to take Family Finder path because of financial constraints.

    From what you are saying I understand that I can tell if I am from a Caucasian branch even with a minimal 12 STR test.

    Then again, I will not be able to say if I have Adyghe origin or Chechen or Azeri with Y12, probably I will need 37, 67 or even more to specify?

    If it is this way, It is easier and cheaper to take the easy way out with a Autosomal test (Family Finder)??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sangarius View Post
    I would recommend you to start with the family finder test, especially if you are currently financially constrained. It's only 79$ and will already tell you about possible Caucasian ancestry. It also establishes your DNA sample at FTDNAs database, so you can order later on additional tests when there is a sale.

    There is also this thread were a user claims you can order the family finder test for only 58USD incl. shipping through groupon.
    I guess the questions are good and ok but I have to start somewhere. I started with Family Finder.
    I've used a Groupon coupon referred in your post. Thanks

    I paid 59$ + 13.95 $ = 72.95 $ in total. In case anyone wonders.

    I got my account number and password in Family Tree DNA. Now I am reading about the projects. Thanks to everyone who answered my long questions

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    I have the testing kit delivered in 11 days to Turkey.

    In the package they send, they have an instruction for International Customers saying;
    "Our kits qualify as parcels, not letters. Please ensure appropriate postage for a parcel is applied or your samples' delivery will be delayed"

    What does that mean? What next? Should I send it via PTT? As a letter or parcel?
    Any advice?

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    It seem like I'm debating with myself. But it will be helpfull for those of whom have just started their geneology adventure.

    I've sent my kit as a small package from Turkey with PTT on 18 th of May and it has been delivered to FTDNA in about 15 days.
    I'm waiting for the batch number. They claim it will take 4-6 weeks to have some results. I guess at the end of July I will have some kind of results.

    I am hoping to find a calculator that focuses more on Caucasia and Anatolia and gives meaningful results. I'm planning to run many of the calculators anyway; however, I will happily accept all suggestions regarding calculators.

    I'm thinking of ordering a Y12 test afterwards in order to have my haplogroup info.

    From what I've been reading I guess with the basic haplogroup info I might have some SNP's tested following Y12 test.

    Though, I'm not very clear whether y37/y67 test will offer better value than having SNP tests at that point.

    Your contributions/suggestions are most welcome, because I feel like I'm having a monologue

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