K36 Eurogenes (Unofficial) Oracle and other ancestry tools

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by losAntonis

Could you please create the maps for father and mother, also? Payed for two maps.

Father:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 3.03
Armenian 2.76
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.20
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.51
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.78
East_Med 3.17
Eastern_Euro 7.30
Fennoscandian 2.03
French 3.81
Iberian 6.83
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.42
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.57
North_African 0.27
North_Atlantic 3.79
North_Caucasian 6.07
North_Sea 1.65
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.13
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.40
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.25
West_Med 7.01

Thank you

I suspect Vlach ancestry, besides Fyrom. I guess that Greek Macedonia reference is partly Pontian.

nMonte3

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
     Macedonia_FYROM             Bulgaria        South_Romania 
            9.550676             9.688023             9.816827 
          Montenegro Albanians_Montenegro          GR_Thessaly 
           10.607464            11.135988            11.159811 
              Serbia      Albanians_FYROM 
           11.495041            11.501743

[1] "distance%=8.374"

antonis_dad

South_Romania,34
Albanians_FYROM,13.2
Ipeiros,12.2
Serbia,10.4
GR_Thessaly,6.6
Macedonia_FYROM,6.6
Bulgaria,6.4
GR_Eubea,3.2
Montenegro,1.4
Ukraine_Zhytomyr,1.2
IT_Sardinia,0.8
Swiss_Italian,0.8
Burusho,0.4
IT_Piedmont,0.4
IT_Tuscany,0.4
Avars,0.2
Brahui,0.2
Chechens,0.2
Circassians,0.2
IT_Veneto,0.2
Kalash,0.2
Karachays,0.2
Punjabi_PAK,0.2
Tirol,0.2
Ukraine_Kharkiv,0.2

correlation values

Macedonia_FYROM 0.928
South_Romania 0.92766
Bulgaria 0.92571
Albanians_FYROM 0.91038
Montenegro 0.91023
GR_Thessaly 0.90424
Ipeiros 0.90381
Albanians Montenegro 0.90373
Kosovo 0.89545
North_Albania 0.89461
Serbia 0.8939
South-East_Romania 0.89297
GR_Eubea 0.8737
South_Albania 0.87254
Western Serbians 1 0.85978
Western Serbians 2 0.85978
GR_Peloponese 0.85694
South-West_Romania 0.85169
IT_Friuli 0.84232
GR_Macedonia1 0.83737
GR_Macedonia2 0.83737
Bosniaks 1 0.83577
Bosniaks 2 0.83577
GR_Central 0.83104

google map: https://fusiontables.googleuserconte...mplt=3&hml=KML

**rothaer** · 01-12-2018, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by lukaszM

Not every name is familiar to me. What is in majority?

Majority is neighboring Westprussia.

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 10:12 PM

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**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by losAntonis

Could you please create the maps for father and mother, also? Payed for two maps.

Father:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 3.03
Armenian 2.76
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.20
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 10.51
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 8.78
East_Med 3.17
Eastern_Euro 7.30
Fennoscandian 2.03
French 3.81
Iberian 6.83
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.42
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.57
North_African 0.27
North_Atlantic 3.79
North_Caucasian 6.07
North_Sea 1.65
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.13
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 2.40
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 1.25
West_Med 7.01

Mother:

Population
Amerindian 0.12
Arabian -
Armenian 1.92
Basque 2.18
Central_African -
Central_Euro 3.78
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.82
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.05
East_Med 11.01
Eastern_Euro 6.03
Fennoscandian 3.72
French 2.19
Iberian 11.19
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 23.59
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.95
North_African 1.25
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 2.47
North_Sea 3.95
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 2.73

Thank you

nMonte3

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
              Kosovo      Albanians_FYROM        North_Albania Albanians_Montenegro              Ipeiros        South_Albania 
            8.125066             8.233402             8.673839             8.691343             8.881046             9.453246 
     Macedonia_FYROM          GR_Thessaly 
            9.497163             9.656169

[1] "distance%=6.5656"

antonis_mum

Albanians_FYROM,33.4
Ipeiros,31.2
Bulgaria,8.8
South_Albania,8.4
Macedonia_FYROM,3.8
Montenegro,3.4
Western_Serbians,2
Bosniaks,1.2
Castilla-La_Mancha,0.8
IT_North,0.8
Serbia,0.6
South-West_Romania,0.6
Croatia,0.4
Kosovo,0.4
Slovakia,0.4
Tula,0.4
Ukraine_Kharkiv,0.4
Belarus_Polesye,0.2
Belarus_West,0.2
Croats_BIH,0.2
Islas_Baleares,0.2
North-East_Romania,0.2
North-West_Romania,0.2
RU_Pskov,0.2
RU_Voronezh,0.2
Slovenia,0.2
South-East_Romania,0.2
Swiss_Italian,0.2
Ukraine_Poltava,0.2
Ukraine_Sumy,0.2
Ukraine_Zhytomyr,0.2
Zaporozhe_Cossacks,0.2

correlation values

Kosovo 0,96085
Albanians_FYROM 0,95866
Albanians Montenegro 0,95811
Macedonia_FYROM 0,95644
North_Albania 0,95434
Ipeiros 0,95269
Bulgaria 0,95251
South_Albania 0,94584
GR_Thessaly 0,9451
South_Romania 0,93665
Montenegro 0,9344
GR_Peloponese 0,93021
South-East_Romania 0,92276
GR_Eubea 0,90818
IT_Friuli 0,9041
GR_Central 0,89965
Serbia 0,898
North-West_Romania 0,88334
GR_Macedonia1 0,88179
GR_Macedonia2 0,88179
South-West_Romania 0,87644
Western Serbians 0,87415
IT_Tuscany 0,87209
IT_Marche 0,86818
IT_Abruzzo 0,86636
IT_North 0,86587
IT_Lazio 0,86242
IT_Veneto 0,85832
North-East_Romania 0,85218
Bosniaks 0,84371
IT_Apulia 0,84135
GR_Andros 0,8351

google mp: https://fusiontables.googleuserconte...mplt=2&hml=KML

**Tomenable** · 01-12-2018, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by rothaer

Majority is neighboring Westprussia.

It was under the Teutonic Order rule since they were granted land by Konrad of Mazovia, until 1466:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodnica#History

I would add it to East Prussia. Germans there came in the same wave as other settlers in East Prussia.

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by MatAust21

Mother:

I want you to run again the nMonte 3 with your K36 references on my parents and myself, but I would like to select the specific populations.

For example, my mother's Polish ancestry seems to be confused with South Slavic ancestry, due to her Italian mix. So I would like you to run the nMonte 3 for her using only Italian, Iberian, and Polish/Western Ukrainian populations.

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
            IT_Veneto             IT_Friuli     Carpathian_Rusyns              Portugal               Galicia    Castilla-La_Mancha 
             11.28935              11.96695              20.30139              20.77120              21.95329              22.62233 
Pl_South_(Małopolska)  Comunidad_Valenciana 
             23.08747              23.46051

[1] "distance%=8.9056"

IT_Veneto,71.8
Carpathian_Rusyns,6.2
Castilla-La_Mancha,6.2
Pl_South_(Małopolska),3.6
Ukraine_Volhyn,3.6
PL_Suwalskie,1.8
Pl_Lublin,1.6
Masovia,1.4
Greater_Poland_(Wielkopolska),1.2
PL_Subcarpathia,1
IT_Friuli,0.8
Podlasie_and_East_Masovia,0.8

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by MatAust21

As well as the maps, I will kindly ask you to run once more the oracles for the first 2 kits. Thank you very much.

Father:

Also, my father's Southwestern German ancestry seems to be confused with Swiss German, and even with Walloon from Belgium, who seem to be related genetically to southern Germans. I would like you to run his nMonte 3 again, but using only reference populations from Northern Italy, the Iberian peninsula, and Ethnic Germans from Germany (excluding Austrians, Swiss, Donau-Schwaben, etc.) You can also use the former eastern German territories, although he probably would not score much in it, but just out of curiosity.

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Baden-Württemberg       IT_Piedmont   Rheinland-Pfalz            Bayern         IT_Friuli         IT_Veneto          Saarland 
         12.70217          13.01744          13.64826          13.81144          14.62936          14.78343          15.29090 
         Portugal 
         16.48017

[1] "distance%=9.9588"

IT_Piedmont,36
Bayern,33
Baden-Württemberg,11.4
Castilla-La_Mancha,6.6
Comunidad_Valenciana,3.4
Schlesien,3
Castilla_y_León,2
Sudetenland,2
Principado_de_Asturias,1.4
La_Rioja,0.6
Cantabria,0.4
Cataluna,0.2

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 11:15 PM

also, please try running another one for my father with only these selected populations: Italy-Veneto, Italy-Friuli, Rheinland-Pfalz, Saarland, and the Iberian regions.

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
     Rheinland-Pfalz            IT_Friuli            IT_Veneto             Saarland             Portugal              Galicia 
            13.64826             14.62936             14.78343             15.29090             16.48017             18.29767 
Comunidad_Valenciana             Cataluna 
            18.44805             18.64402

[1] "distance%=11.3931"
father

Rheinland-Pfalz,47
IT_Friuli,14.2
IT_Veneto,8
Saarland,7.4
Comunidad_Valenciana,4.4
Castilla-La_Mancha,3.6
Portugal,3.6
Principado_de_Asturias,3
Cataluna,2.4
Galicia,2.4
Andalusia,1.4
Castilla_y_León,1.4
La_Rioja,0.6
Cantabria,0.4
Aragón,0.2

**lukaszM** · 01-12-2018, 11:24 PM

for the 4th run, this time using my data, I would like: Northern Italy, Iberia, Germany (including the former eastern territories, but not including Austrians, Swiss, Donau-Schwaben, etc.), Polish and western Ukrainian regions.

Code:

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
        IT_Veneto Baden-Württemberg         IT_Friuli            Bayern   Rheinland-Pfalz       Sudetenland          Saarland 
         11.47244          12.17986          12.31740          14.01373          14.18472          15.73520          16.64105 
        Thüringen 
         18.52854

[1] "distance%=9.76"

IT_Veneto,49.8
Baden-Württemberg,12.8
Bayern,9.6
IT_Friuli,9
Sudetenland,4.2
Castilla-La_Mancha,3.4
Schlesien,3.2
Carpathian_Rusyns,2.2
Thüringen,2.2
Pl_South_(Małopolska),0.8
Greater_Poland_(Wielkopolska),0.6
PL_Suwalskie,0.6
Ukraine_Volhyn,0.6
Comunidad_Valenciana,0.4
PL_Subcarpathia,0.4
Masovia,0.2

**LTG** · 01-12-2018, 11:31 PM

Lukas, could you run me an nMonte3 for my K36 please? Thanks.

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 4.26
Armenian 6.11
Basque 0.24
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.38
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.54
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.96
East_Med 19.71
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian 6.73
French 9.49
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.30
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.73
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.90
North_Caucasian 1.96
North_Sea 10.60
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 5.89
West_Med 2.21

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