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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibelung View Post
    My maternal uncle's K36 from his ftDNA kit. Stuff sent.

    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.58
    Central African -
    Central Euro 9.38
    East African -
    East Asian -
    East Balkan 3.72
    East Central Asian -
    East Central Euro 6.35
    East Med -
    Eastern Euro 4.63
    Fennoscandian 7.42
    French 6.61
    Iberian 13.41
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 8.49
    Malayan -
    Near Eastern -
    North African -
    North Atlantic 12.78
    North Caucasian 2.86
    North Sea 20.91
    Northeast African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South Asian -
    South Central Asian -
    South Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 0.32
    West African 0.53
    West Caucasian -
    West Med -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Hey Lukasz, I just sent you payment for another report. This one is for my Dad. On the report, you can use "Scott's Dad" or "Gerald" for his name. Below is his information:

    Amerindian 0.13
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 4.76
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 4.77
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 5.57
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 3.11
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 0.51
    Fennoscandian 11.64
    French 3.58
    Iberian 17.09
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 5.50
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 18.09
    North_Caucasian 8.25
    North_Sea 16.18
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 0.83
    West_Med -
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    Thanks Lukasz. I didn't see a 4 populations approximation using the Gaussian method. Could you send that information as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    ... while I'm here my wife would like to run her results. She's just done 23andme, is three quarters Russian, one quarter Georgian on paper but looks to have some Romanian/Moldovan judging by her population groups and some cousin matches. Have sent payment for JonikW Wife. No rush. Thanks again.

    Population
    Amerindian 0.06
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 2.23
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 6.08
    East_African -
    East_Asian 0.27
    East_Balkan 1.86
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.43
    East_Med 7.16
    Eastern_Euro 12.88
    Fennoscandian 16.06
    French -
    Iberian 2.70
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 5.63
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 5.36
    North_African 1.39
    North_Atlantic 4.54
    North_Caucasian 7.38
    North_Sea 10.96
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian 0.33
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 3.42
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 3.16
    West_Med 2.10
    WHAT A INTERESTING CASE!

    Three quarter Russian, hmm.. Must be Russian heavily Volga / Baltic German admixed, look at her North Sea level and very low East-Central Euro. I'm sure it is true, results are evident. Without German it is replaced by Dutch.

    Map screams that there is strong Sachsen-Anhalt similarity. Combined with high Estonian led me to think that it is Baltic German (with roots in Sachsen-Anhalt). I rarely have such definite results Her Russian is rather northern mainly. Cossack similarity on map could be results of Georgian + North Russsian.

    Her similarity to Balkan on plots or in single distances is artificial. It is resultant of German/ Russian mix with added Caucasian. Midpoint is Balkanite in some tools. But map doesn't indicates it. Maybe slight Moldavian but nMonte doesn't show it.

    Her Georgian is from eastern part probably.

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    Much appreciated and you've given us plenty to think about. We haven't been able to do much family research on a couple of sides.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Only Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,050 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century

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    ... for the record, this was her 23andme breakdown:
    European 87.3%
    Eastern European 38.6% Russia
    Balkan 27.9%
    Italian 7.8%
    Finnish 0.9%
    Sardinian 0.4%
    Broadly Southern European 5.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 1.3%
    Broadly European 4.6%
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Only Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,050 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    ... for the record, this was her 23andme breakdown:
    European 87.3%
    Eastern European 38.6% Russia
    Balkan 27.9%
    Italian 7.8%
    Finnish 0.9%
    Sardinian 0.4%
    Broadly Southern European 5.9%
    Broadly Northwestern European 1.3%
    Broadly European 4.6%
    As I said Balkan is false positive. I didn't include in report standard nMonte but she had some Romanian too. But in distant mixes only penalization=0 is correct option. But even in standared nMonte she has good share of German. Those results are very definite, it isn't guessing. She MUST have some German blood. Now you need to find the source (Volga, Baltic, Black Sea German?). I bet Baltic German mixed with north Russian is her non-Caucasian part.
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    Her standard nMonte3 with all references, without pen=0

    "distance%=8.5099"

    xyz

    Sachsen-Anhalt,29.6
    RU_Kostroma,3.8
    RU_Perm,3.8
    RU_Vyatka,3
    North_Norway,2.8
    North_Sweden,2.8

    RU_Solvychegodsk,2.6
    RU_Cossacks_Kuban,2.4
    TR_Balikeshir,2.4
    RU_Rostov,1.8
    SV_Svealand,1.8

    Estonians,1.6
    Finnish_Swede,1.6
    Greek_Azov,1.6
    Mordva_Moksha,1.6
    Dutch_Ashkenazy,1.4
    Karelians,1.4
    Central_Romania,1.2
    Moldavia,1.2
    RU_Novgorod,1.2
    Komi,1
    Nordrhein-Westfalen,1
    TR_Istanbul,1
    Vepsians,1
    RU_North_Dvina,0.8
    TR_Kayseri,0.8
    Assyrians,0.6
    Belarus_Ashkenazy,0.6
    Crimean_Tatars_Coast,0.6
    Iranian_Shiraz,0.6
    Kumyk,0.6
    Kurd_Armenia,0.6
    Lapp_1,0.6
    Lazes,0.6
    RU_Tver,0.6
    South-East_Romania,0.6
    South-West_Finns,0.6
    Tat_Jew,0.6
    TR_Adana,0.6
    TR_Aydin,0.6
    Turkey_Anatolia,0.6
    Algerian_Jew,0.4
    Bulgaria,0.4
    Chitrali_PAK,0.4
    Circassians,0.4
    Copts_Egypt,0.4
    GR_Thessaly,0.4
    Iranian_Jew,0.4
    Kalash,0.4
    Libyan_Jew,0.4
    Malta,0.4
    Pashtun_PAK,0.4
    RU_Pinega,0.4
    Sephardi_Turkey,0.4
    Sicily_Caltanisetta,0.4
    South_Romania,0.4
    Tajik_Iskashim,0.4
    Turkmen,0.4
    Udmurts,0.4
    AustroHungarian_Ashkenazy1,0.2
    Avars,0.2
    Azeri,0.2
    Cyprus,0.2
    Druzes,0.2
    East_Moroccan_Berbers,0.2
    Egypt,0.2
    FR_Corsica,0.2
    Georgia_Svans,0.2
    GR_Chios,0.2
    GR_Crete,0.2
    GR_Ikaria,0.2
    GR_Kalymnos,0.2
    GR_Kythira,0.2
    Iranian_Mazandarani,0.2
    Iraqi_Jew,0.2
    IT_Apulia,0.2
    Jatt_Sikh,0.2
    Karachays,0.2
    Kurd,0.2
    Kurdish_Jew,0.2
    Lebanon_Muslim,0.2
    Makrani,0.2
    Moroccan_Jew,0.2
    Pashtun_AFG,0.2
    Poland_Ashkenazy,0.2
    Pontic_Greeks,0.2
    Samaritan,0.2
    Sephardi_Bulgaria,0.2
    Sicily_Messina,0.2
    Sicily_Ragusa,0.2
    South_Morocco_Berbers,0.2
    SV_Gotaland,0.2
    Tajik_AFG,0.2
    Tajik_Rushan,0.2
    Tajik_Yagnobi,0.2
    Tatars_Kazan,0.2
    Tatars_Siberia,0.2
    TUN_Bizerta,0.2
    TUN_Sousse,0.2
    TUN_Tunis,0.2
    Tunisian_Jew,0.2
    Yemen_Jew,0.2
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    I'm sure you're right Lucasz. I'm very pleased with your excellent work. We did get family history from one grandmother before she passed away but sadly never got around to it for the other. Will see what I can find out from other relatives but I don't hold out much hope. It really makes you appreciate the relatively easy genealogical info available at the click of a mouse for people with British ancestry like me.
    You were spot on with the eastern region of Georgia by the way (deep roots in Kakhetia).
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    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Only Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,050 ybp (YFull);
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    Hey Lukasz, thank you for providing a report for my Dad. I noticed multiple Spanish populations were listed. He received 15% Iberian with AncestryDNA and that Iberian percentage remained fairly consistent when his results were transferred to MyHeritage and FTDNA. Do you think his results below indicate that he actually has some Spanish ancestry?

    "2. FULL TABLE nMONTE" (estimated percentages)
    "distance%=9.3868"
    Wales,62.6
    England_North-East,12.6
    Saarland,8.8
    Bayern,1.8
    Cantabria,1.4
    La_Rioja,1.4
    Dutch_Noord_Holland,1.2
    North_Norway,1
    Andalusia,0.6
    Aragón,0.6
    England_South-West,0.6
    Finnish_Swede,0.6
    North_Sweden,0.6
    Castilla,0.4
    Cataluna,0.4
    FR_South-West,0.4
    Navarra,0.4
    País_Vasco,0.4
    Abkhasian,0.2
    Arain_Punjabi,0.2
    Asturia,0.2
    Extremadura,0.2
    FR_Basque,0.2
    FR_South,0.2
    FR_Swiss,0.2
    Georgia_Svans,0.2
    Ireland,0.2
    Karachays,0.2
    Kurdish_Jew,0.2
    Lezgin,0.2
    Nordrhein-Westfalen,0.2
    Orkney,0.2

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