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    Hi Lucasz. Could you please do a report for a Russian friend of mine. He's particularly curious about whether he has some Lithuanian ancestry. Please post him as "JonikW friend". Money sent. No rush.

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    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Well, I'd say living just 50 Km away from the northern side of the Alps and having half of my familiy coming from this region would make me also kind of an example for an Alpine population. My K36 results are in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuffle View Post
    Well, I'd say living just 50 Km away from the northern side of the Alps and having half of my familiy coming from this region would make me also kind of an example for an Alpine population. My K36 results are in this thread.
    Besides the Bavarians and the west Germans, Dad has a 4th Great Grandmother who was born in Schottekin, Zurich (I think technically this was part of Bavaria back then) in 1732 and whose parents* came over to with a large family to the colonies (Pennsylvania>Virginia>Kentucky).


    So the Mountain Troll (not you, grandma) descent is real, although she was just one of 64 4th great grandparents.



    *Her mother, Dad's 5th great grandmother, died in an indian attack in 1782:
    Massacre near Crab Orchard
    In 1782, Hamman, his family, and the Baughman's began their move to Kentucky. Along the Wilderness Road at Dix River, near the town of Crab Orchard in Lincoln County, tragedy befell the party when Indians attacked their camp. Several accounts of this event are recorded in history.

    The first account can be found in "Kentucky, A History of the State", published in 1887, in a statement given by Joel Baughman. He states that his grandfather, Henry Baughman, Sr. was killed giving his relatives a chance to escape when Indians opened fire on the group about eight miles above Crab Orchard. Among those killed were: Hamman's unnamed son, only seven days old; Christina's aunt Margarethe Baughman Ferrill and her husband, Jonathan Ferrill; two of Christina's uncles, Jacob Baughman and Hans Henrich Baughman. Christina's maternal grandmother, Margaretha Schwizier Baughman (December 25, 1698 – October 17, 1782) was killed during the attack.

    A second account is found in the Draper Collection, Kentucky Papers, Volume 12, page 149, in an interview with George Yocum, Montgomery County, Kentucky. He states, "Philip Hamman was in the defeated camps on Flat Creek (near Dix River). He, his wife, and little child, were in the company." They had undressed and lain down when the attack began. "He sprang, snatched up the child, and his hid gun, and his wife followed after."

    A third account is found in "The Register", Kentucky Historical Society, Volume 36, July 1938, Whitley Papers, Volume 9. It states that "Baughman's Defeat was in October 1782 on the Wilderness Road and at the head of Dicks River. Jacob Baughman and his mother were killed. Mrs. (Christina) Hammans came into Crab Orchard in her linnen Wooley, wounded in the head with an arrow."

    A fourth account is told in the Dickey Diary, Lee College Archives, Jackson, Kentucky. Rev. Dickey interviewed William Jackson Cope in 1898 and he told of his grandfather's immigration to America from Germany. He said his grandparents were camped by the river and a dog started barking. Someone cried, "That dog is barking at Indians." The Indians then attacked the camp an it was a fearful slaughter. The Indians ripped the bed tickings, and feathers were flying everywhere.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philli...r_Crab_Orchard
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Lukasz, what are the african populations you have added since then?
    Soon I will post full list.

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    I have southwest German and Swiss German great-grandfathers, too. My paternal 5th grandfather Hans Jacob Wagner from Basel, landed in Philadelphia in 1740. His Anglo schoolteacher changed his surname to Waggoner...Thanks a lot, Teach. Another paternal 5th grandfather Hans Seitz from Adelshofen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, landed in Pennsylvania in 1732. I don't know why I hate sauerkraut, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVBLAKE View Post
    I have southwest German and Swiss German great-grandfathers, too. My paternal 5th grandfather Hans Jacob Wagner from Basel, landed in Philadelphia in 1740. His Anglo schoolteacher changed his surname to Waggoner...Thanks a lot, Teach. Another paternal 5th grandfather Hans Seitz from Adelshofen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, landed in Pennsylvania in 1732. I don't know why I hate sauerkraut, lol.
    There are probably two sub-Alpine clusters: one close to the bilingual (German/Italian) Northern Italians and another one close to Baden-Wurttemberg.

    Let's wait for Lukasz' findings...
    Eurogenes G25: 46% Corded_Ware_Baltic+30% Minoan_Lasithi+24% Beaker_Iberia
    Eurogenes G25: 60% German+34% Italian_Tuscan+6% Greek_Crete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camulogène Rix View Post
    There are probably two sub-Alpine clusters: one close to the bilingual (German/Italian) Northern Italians and another one close to Baden-Wurttemberg.

    Let's wait for Lukasz' findings...
    IMO, we will find most alpine will be ethnically the same but over time learnt other languages ..........depends how far back Lukasz findings go

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Hi Lucasz. Could you please do a report for a Russian friend of mine. He's particularly curious about whether he has some Lithuanian ancestry. Please post him as "JonikW friend". Money sent. No rush.

    Armenian 4.85
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    East_Central_Euro 24.53
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    Fennoscandian 16.47
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    Excellent work as always. Thanks Lucasz. He's going to enjoy going through the results.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
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    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    What is your report (link), I can't localize you by username
    Tried to post my report link but I'm disallowed. Hmmm....I'll email you at your regular contact email with ref to this posting #.

    Thanks.

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