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Thread: K36 Eurogenes (Unofficial) Oracle and other ancestry tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I have a feeling that such separate mapping of every chromosome is pure randomness.
    Well, this exercise can be done with any Gedmatch calculator that has a spreadsheet, so out of curiosity, I've been trying it with a few different calcs to see how it would come out. Some of my chromosomes are showing similarities in results between different calculators; others, not so much. And some of what's coming up is just off-the-wall, but I'm not sure how much of that is the calculator and how much is just me being mixed. I've tried MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K15, and I'm part-way through trying PuntDNAL K15.

    Here's what I've got so far --> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoxVoldius View Post
    Well, this exercise can be done with any Gedmatch calculator that has a spreadsheet,

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    22 chromosomes x 3 calculators (and two penalization) = 128 combinations. Impressive
    Wow. How many hours your were doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam.Krauze View Post
    22 chromosomes x 3 calculators (and two penalization) = 128 combinations. Impressive
    Wow. How many hours your were doing it?
    Too many hours, lol. Still need to finish that 3rd one, and then try the same exercise with at least one of my parents' kits for comparison.
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    The Tirol stands out for both of you especially your mother. I wonder whether that also explains a fair amount of Bolzano.Those places aren't too far apart.
    I bet it does explain Bolzano. And the Balkan heavy chromosomes must be connected to this ancestry as well, at least for my mother. Balkan in my results can be from both my parents, and since it is more well defined in my results than my mother's, I imagine a Balkan contribution from my father is the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I have a feeling that such separate mapping of every chromosome is pure randomness.
    Yeah, but I think there is something of great value here. The PCA's created from this approach paint a picture of your ancestry in, I think, a new and fascinating way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwolf View Post
    Looks good, how long did you wait to receive the report?
    It took approx 4 days. It is definitely interesting. I'm sure most Europeans will share deep ancestry and chromosomes.

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    Just received the chromosome analysis. Quite intriguing as pertaining to possible distant ancestry/admixture. Although it is mostly Italian, Swiss German, and minor English. Very nice!

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/13gP...a7djwQory/view

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    I just got my chromosomal analysis: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1S-...bweWXS6Or8iszr

    A few observations: the largest pink clustering reflects 75% of my known recent ancestry (especially France and UK).

    I'd say that lends high credibility to this report. So, if I compare Lukasz's K36 Ancestral Report with this,

    I think this chromosomal report sheds interesting light on how my genetic make-up according to the K36 nMonte came together.

    Secondly, Lukasz mentioned the Dutch/Anglo Saxon cluster could be attributed to English/UK ancestry.

    The Alpine cluster could be recent Swiss German (12.5% paper ancestry) although my K36 Ancestry report didn't really pick up on any
    Swiss German. So, maybe it is marking older Continental Celtic.

    Lukasz also indicated that the first chromosomes have more weight than the latter chromosomes. This also makes sense, especially if I outline chromosome numbers 1 - 4 and zoom in; it corresponds to my largest cluster.

    What is most intriguing is that chromosome #1 is an outlier. I wonder what accounts for it being so salient in my genes?

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    I've tried to do it for myself (only PCA plot) and this is what I got:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/wiqqp63thx...ChrSq.png?dl=0

    The first few chromosomes ended in NW EU, several others among the West Slavs, one group in Austria, 2 of them in the Balkans and 4 in the Volga-Ural area (I think).

    I don't know what to think about this method
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    This is my son's K36 report. His dad is Italian and I am Greek (mainly from Epirus). The Epirote and Albanian influence is quite strong in him as well as in me. Maybe some Slavic contribution too (see Albanians FYROM, Montenegro). We have Vlach roots too which could be expressed also by Thessaly, I believe. Quite interesting. Thank you, Lukasz for another great report!
    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LK...XOFkjdUJNdsnFP
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