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    Her are two reports from Lukasz, my mother and also me.

    My mother's known ancestry is from; West/Central Germany, Prussia, Tyrol, and her Great-Grandmother was English/Irish. I also suspect that one other line had British admix. I think her report represents all of this very well. The surprises: 3 chromo's show distinct Italian influence, 2 show Balkan influence, and 1 Iberian.

    As far as my report well, my dad is all Magyar for as far back as I can trace. You can see the influence this has as my English/Irish ancestry almost disappears from the PCA and multiple heavily north Slavic chromosomes appear which are completely absent in my mom's report. Please let me know any and all thoughts you have or anything you see of interest. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Her are two reports from Lukasz, my mother and also me.

    My mother's known ancestry is from; West/Central Germany, Prussia, Tyrol, and her Great-Grandmother was English/Irish. I also suspect that one other line had British admix. I think her report represents all of this very well. The surprises: 3 chromo's show distinct Italian influence, 2 show Balkan influence, and 1 Iberian.

    As far as my report well, my dad is all Magyar for as far back as I can trace. You can see the influence this has as my English/Irish ancestry almost disappears from the PCA and multiple heavily north Slavic chromosomes appear which are completely absent in my mom's report. Please let me know any and all thoughts you have or anything you see of interest. Thank you!

    Mom (German/British Isles)
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bhZ...Ku9IEcxVd/view

    Me (Hungarian/German/British Isles)
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c7R...RGH39cpqf/view

    The Tirol stands out for both of you especially your mother. I wonder whether that also explains a fair amount of Bolzano.Those places aren't too far apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    The Tirol stands out for both of you especially your mother. I wonder whether that also explains a fair amount of Bolzano.Those places aren't too far apart.
    Bolzano is part of South-Tyrol ......part of Italy,..... it has 2 provinces......Alto-Adige and Trentino.......

    North-Tyrol and East-Tyrol are part of Austria

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    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
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    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    Just received my chromosome analysis from Lukasz. Apparently I'm quite British/Irish as per chromosomes on the PCA but have some minor "exotic" for my ancestry with one Slavic, one North Italian and one Iberian.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YK9...hp0Ufj4v0/view
    Looks good, how long did you wait to receive the report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    Bolzano is part of South-Tyrol ......part of Italy,..... it has 2 provinces......Alto-Adige and Trentino.......

    North-Tyrol and East-Tyrol are part of Austria

    Thanks . I meant they are near to each other. Innsbruck to Bolzano 76 miles. Lienz to Bolzano 91 miles.
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    I have a feeling that such separate mapping of every chromosome is pure randomness.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I have a feeling that such separate mapping of every chromosome is pure randomness.
    Well, this exercise can be done with any Gedmatch calculator that has a spreadsheet, so out of curiosity, I've been trying it with a few different calcs to see how it would come out. Some of my chromosomes are showing similarities in results between different calculators; others, not so much. And some of what's coming up is just off-the-wall, but I'm not sure how much of that is the calculator and how much is just me being mixed. I've tried MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K15, and I'm part-way through trying PuntDNAL K15.

    Here's what I've got so far --> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoxVoldius View Post
    Well, this exercise can be done with any Gedmatch calculator that has a spreadsheet,

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    22 chromosomes x 3 calculators (and two penalization) = 128 combinations. Impressive
    Wow. How many hours your were doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam.Krauze View Post
    22 chromosomes x 3 calculators (and two penalization) = 128 combinations. Impressive
    Wow. How many hours your were doing it?
    Too many hours, lol. Still need to finish that 3rd one, and then try the same exercise with at least one of my parents' kits for comparison.
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    The Tirol stands out for both of you especially your mother. I wonder whether that also explains a fair amount of Bolzano.Those places aren't too far apart.
    I bet it does explain Bolzano. And the Balkan heavy chromosomes must be connected to this ancestry as well, at least for my mother. Balkan in my results can be from both my parents, and since it is more well defined in my results than my mother's, I imagine a Balkan contribution from my father is the reason.

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