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Thread: FTDNA U152 Project Closing in on 2000 members

  1. #101
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    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
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    3000 members in FTDNA U152 project on March 24th 2021


    On this day there are 6624 U152+ men in FTDNA Haplotree database.

    For comparison, brother clade has 4094 members and 7871 in database
    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 03-24-2021 at 02:56 PM.
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    ^^Congrats!! The DF19 Group is up to (checks notes) 526
    But 988 in the 'tree.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Can you re-apply if you have been removed previously? (I was removed for not having tested atleast Y37 at FTDNA, but I tested my father at YSEQ.)

    Kae = Father // Ella = Mother // Pao = Maternal Grandmother:
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    Kae: 66.8 Dutch // 25.8 N+W French // 7.4 E German (@0.01632655)
    Ella: 92.9 Belgian // 4.0 W German // 3.1 W Sicilian (@0.01514940)
    Pao: 58.2 Belgian // 41.8 W German (@0.01636705)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellebel View Post
    Can you re-apply if you have been removed previously? (I was removed for not having tested atleast Y37 at FTDNA, but I tested my father at YSEQ.)
    Contact lead admin Steve Gilbert [email protected] and Z56 admin
    Vincent van der Heijden [email protected]

    and let them know your situation. They will be able to assist.
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
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    Something really strange is going on with the FTDNA Haplotree numbers for U152. The total has jumped from 6624 on 3/24/2021 to 8517...that's more than DF27 which currently has 8000.



    There's no way they could have added almost 1900 new U152 samples in less than 2 months.

    On 12/31/2021 the numbers were
    U152 in FTDNA database: 6385.
    DF27 in FTDNA database: 7668.
    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 05-15-2021 at 09:10 PM.
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Something really strange is going on with the FTDNA Haplotree numbers for U152. The total has jumped from 6624 on 3/24/2021 to 8517...that's more than DF27 which currently has 8000.



    There's no way they could have added almost 1900 new U152 samples in less than 2 months.

    On 12/31/2021 the numbers were
    U152 in FTDNA database: 6385.
    DF27 in FTDNA database: 7668.
    L2 alone is 6126

    Do you know its previous numbers.
    Last edited by G Livesey; 05-16-2021 at 02:55 AM. Reason: Extra question
    R-U152>Z56>Z46>Z48>Z44>BY66065
    U5b2a2b
    Ancestry DNA 2020; England NW Europe 55%, Scotland 19%, Ireland 10%, Sweden 8%, Norway 6%, Wales 2%
    Ancestry DNA 2019; England, Wales, NW Europe 86%, Norway 7%, Sweden 7%
    Ancestry DNA 2018; England, Wales, NW Europe 91%, Norway 9%
    Original Ancestry DNA; Europe West 54%, Great Britain 23%, Wales/Scotland/Ireland 13%; Scandinavia 7%; Iberian Peninsula 2%
    FTDNA; British Isles 81%, West and Central Europe 18%
    Paper Trail; England 87.5%, Wales 12.5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by G Livesey View Post
    L2 alone is 6126

    Do you know its previous numbers.
    No but probably in the 4000s. L2 makes up roughly 2/3rds to 70% of all U152. So if U152 6624 on March 24th, then L2 was probably around 4400 on that date. I would guess that before this jump occurred, L2 was around 4500.
    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 05-16-2021 at 05:38 AM.
    Y DNA line continued: Z142>Z12222>FGC12378>FGC12401>FGC12384
    37% English, 26% Scot/Ulster Scot, 14% Welsh, 14% German, 3% Ireland, 3% Nordic, 2% French/Dutch, 1% India
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    I was going to say maybe they got access to another service's numbers, but If there isn't a corresponding jump in some of the other P312 clades, I guess that can't be it.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    The jump in numbers appears to be concentrated in/solely concentrated in the "unknown" location category and occurred in the last couple of days.

    All these additions appear to be in U152>L2>Z258>Z367 branch. I say this because the L2>Z49 branch and the L2>Z258>Z367 are normally close to the same size in numbers (I used to be a FTDNA U152 project admin so I'm familiar with this relationship)

    At present Z258 has 3084 samples of which 2319 are of unknown origin. Z49 has 1198 samples of which 574 are unknown origin.

    Drilling down further the "glitch" additions are located in U152>L2>Z258>Z367>L20>CTS9733>BY3584>S26186.
    S26186 has 1882 unknown origin samples and 257 samples with country origins.

    So that's where the glitch/issue in their database #s is located.


    Last edited by MitchellSince1893; 05-16-2021 at 06:16 AM.
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