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    Quote Originally Posted by deLuz View Post
    Hello, brothers,
    Have you heard about the new Punjabi subhaplogroup G2a2b2a4b Z31383??

    Then P303 subgroups resume here:
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a2 L694 (5674986 del->ins) Poles, Belarusians
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a3 M278 (15022465 T->G) Greeks, Iberians
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a4 Z30503 (7399836 C->G) 10.5 KY
    • • • • • • • •G2a2b2a4a Z30523 (6903921 G->A) s. Indians 7.7 KY
    • • • • • • • •G2a2b2a4b Z31383 (2831352 C->T) Punjabis of Pakistan 7.7 KY
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a5 M426 (19095973 T->G) Kalash
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a6 PF3912 (16705676 C->T) FTDNA subgroup
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a7 L288.2 (21286267 G->A) FTDNA subgroup
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a8 PF4685 (13679679 G->A) FTDNA subgroup
    • • • • • • •G2a2b2a9 Z6030 (21682389 T->C) Sardinians

    Cheers

    Rod
    Intresting. I thought most South Asian G was G2a3b1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Intresting. I thought most South Asian G was G2a3b1.
    G2a3b1 has been renamed to G2a2b2
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Let me share with you another mistery about our P303*, L140-:
    Among the people in one of our branches (G2a2b2a...P303+ DYS392=12 & DYS520=20) you can find, among some British and German people, one man from the Gagauz people.
    This could have no relevance if we don't realize Gagauz people is a Bulgar/Turkic speaking people, whose origin could have been in the Imaon/Pamir mountains: "According to Ashharatsuyts the Central Asian territory west of Imeon was inhabited in Antiquity by fifteen old artisan and trading nations: Massagetae, Bulgars (Bulhi in Armenian; Shirakatsi uses the same name for the Bulgars who inhabited the valleys of Northern Caucasus at his time, and according to Moses of Chorene had settled also the Bulgarian-Armenian principality of Vanand before that, Khwarezmians (‘Horozmiki’) etc., and by forty-three nomadic tribes including the Hephthalites and Alchons. Apart from Anania Shirakatsi, other historiographers in late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages such as Agathias of Myrina, Theophylact Simocatta, and Michael the Syrian also identify Mount Imeon as an early homeland of the ancient Bulgars — where the ancient Kingdom of Balhara was located...
    Gagauz have 10.4 and 17.1 % Hg. G, and maybe some of them are P303* as well.

    What do you think about it?

    Pamir Mountains
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_Mountains
    Mount Imeon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Imeon
    Gagauz people
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagauz_people
    Kazarig
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazarig

    In this subgroup: gagauz YDNA.JPG
    Last edited by deLuz; 03-18-2015 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deLuz View Post
    Let me share with you another mistery about our P303*, L140-:
    Among the people in one of our branches (G2a2b2a...P303+ DYS392=12 & DYS520=20) you can find, among some British and German people, one man from the Gagauz people.
    This could have no relevance if we don't realize Gagauz people is a Bulgar/Turkic speaking people, whose origin could have been in the Imaon/Pamir mountains: "According to Ashharatsuyts the Central Asian territory west of Imeon was inhabited in Antiquity by fifteen old artisan and trading nations: Massagetae, Bulgars (Bulhi in Armenian; Shirakatsi uses the same name for the Bulgars who inhabited the valleys of Northern Caucasus at his time, and according to Moses of Chorene had settled also the Bulgarian-Armenian principality of Vanand before that, Khwarezmians (‘Horozmiki’) etc., and by forty-three nomadic tribes including the Hephthalites and Alchons. Apart from Anania Shirakatsi, other historiographers in late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages such as Agathias of Myrina, Theophylact Simocatta, and Michael the Syrian also identify Mount Imeon as an early homeland of the ancient Bulgars — where the ancient Kingdom of Balhara was located...
    Gagauz have 10.4 and 17.1 % Hg. G, and maybe some of them are P303* as well.

    What do you think about it?

    Pamir Mountains
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamir_Mountains
    Mount Imeon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Imeon
    Gagauz people
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagauz_people
    Kazarig
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazarig

    In this subgroup: gagauz YDNA.JPG
    I am completely ignorant about this subject. Definitely something to read! Hopefully others may have some insight.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    G2a2a1b1 - PF3146+, PF3148+, FGC34451+, FGC34387+
    Punjabi JaT from Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayaan View Post
    G2a2a1b1 - PF3146+, PF3148+, FGC34451+, FGC34387+
    Punjabi JaT from Pakistan
    I wonder if there is an FGC SNP that corresponds with Z30503 and Z30523.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Hi!

    Just got back my LivingDNA results a couple of days ago and came out as G2a-P303 (unfortunately the subclade didn't trickle down further than that). My paternal family΄s originally from Logar, Afghanistan tracing ourselves back to the Islamic grammarian Muhammad ibn Tayfour of Sajawand (d. 1165 CE), so if that tradition's correct the haplogroup has been around these parts for at least 800-900 years (probably no news to you guys). I would like to learn more about the origins of this subclade but are unfortunately rather ignorant when it comes to genetics...

    It would be nice to get a more detailed testing but unfortunately I'm a poor student Since the haplogroup sounded quite uncommon and obscure I figured that I'd reach out to learn some more Is there any way which I might contribute to the research as a poor, genetics-illiteral person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtakey View Post
    Hi!

    Just got back my LivingDNA results a couple of days ago and came out as G2a-P303 (unfortunately the subclade didn't trickle down further than that). My paternal family΄s originally from Logar, Afghanistan tracing ourselves back to the Islamic grammarian Muhammad ibn Tayfour of Sajawand (d. 1165 CE), so if that tradition's correct the haplogroup has been around these parts for at least 800-900 years (probably no news to you guys). I would like to learn more about the origins of this subclade but are unfortunately rather ignorant when it comes to genetics...

    It would be nice to get a more detailed testing but unfortunately I'm a poor student Since the haplogroup sounded quite uncommon and obscure I figured that I'd reach out to learn some more Is there any way which I might contribute to the research as a poor, genetics-illiteral person?
    Just saw this post. Do you have STR results? if so can you post them?
    I would suggest getting a kit from yseq and test a few SNPs as a next step after looking at STR data.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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