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    ADMIXTURE tracks Amerindian-like admixture in northern Europe

    This is an interesting analysis that Dienekes carried out last year where he seems to think that the North/East Eurasian ancestry that is shared between Europeans and Native Americans can be tracked using ADMIXTURE at K=4. He calls this analysis globe4. In this he shows that most Europeans especially Northern Europeans show some Amerindian type admixture. This Amerindian admixture is obviously some very ancient type of ancestry that both present day Europeans and Native Americans share together. He released the calculator files for this analysis as well so we can post our results here and compare if you wish. Here are mine below.

    90.08% European
    1.13% Asian
    0.22% African
    8.57% Amerindian

    http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/10/...dian-like.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    This is an interesting analysis that Dienekes carried out last year where he seems to think that the North/East Eurasian ancestry that is shared between Europeans and Native Americans can be tracked using ADMIXTURE at K=4 [etc]...

    http://dienekes.blogspot.ca/2012/10/...dian-like.html
    I prefer to make as few assumptions as possible, and am not conceding every diffusionist claim that has been proposed @ anthrogenica, however, there is some persuasive circumstantial evidence from pathology, botany, and even zoology for trans-oceanic diffusion:

    Sorenson, John L. and Carl L. Johannessen
    "Scientific Evidence for Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Voyages," Sino-Platonic Papers, n.133, April, 2004
    http://www.sino-platonic.org/complet...an_voyages.pdf

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    Here's my results that I posted in 2012 on ForumBiodiversity -

    92.87% European (British average 92.7%, Irish average 92.4%, English average 93.1%)
    7.13% Amerindian (British average 7.3%, Irish average 7.6%, English average 6.9%)
    0.01% Asian (0% for all three averages)
    0.00% African (0% for all three averages)

    And my brother -

    92.68% European
    7.26% Amerindian
    0.05% African
    0.01% Asian

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    It's a strange but nice idea to awaken the old globe4.
    Me:
    91.13% European
    0.00% Asian
    0.23% African
    8.63% Amerindian
    My mother;
    91.90% European
    0.00% Asian
    0.21% African
    7.89% Amerindian
    For 4 close relatives (one first cousin on my maternal side and his son, one first cousin on my paternal side and his daughter), the amerindian amount is between 8% and 9.35%. All 6 individuals at least 3/4 normand.
    En North alom, de North venom
    En North fum naiz, en North manom

    (Roman de Rou, Wace, 1160-1170)

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    Interesting calculator. I had just run these last week for a spreadsheet I am building for comparison purposes across the calculators. Here are some results:

    Me:

    European 92.58
    Asian 0.32
    African 0.35
    Amerindian 6.76

    Dad:

    European 91.50
    Asian 0.88
    African 0.39
    Amerindian 7.24

    Mom:

    European 93.31
    Asian 0.01
    African 0.00
    Amerindian 6.68

    Wife:

    European 92.96
    Asian 0.02
    African 0.33
    Amerindian 6.70

    Father-in-law:

    European 92.28
    Asian 0.01
    African 0.73
    Amerindian 6.98

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    FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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    88.64% European
    0.80% Asian
    0.00% African
    10.57% Amerindian


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
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    FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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    88.64% European
    0.80% Asian
    0.00% African
    10.57% Amerindian

    Rename it Siberian and its on point.
    Hidden Content

    Eurogenes K13 Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    1. 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93

    Dodecad K12b
    1. 87,89% Szolad3 + 12,11% CHV001_Chalmny_Varre_18th-19th @ 1,131
    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
    55.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse
    36.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    8.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA2


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    Rename it Siberian and its on point.
    What is your result?
    In this he shows that most Europeans especially Northern Europeans show some Amerindian type admixture. This Amerindian admixture is obviously some very ancient type of ancestry that both present day Europeans and Native Americans share together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    What is your result?
    Can you do mine?
    Hidden Content

    Eurogenes K13 Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    1. 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93

    Dodecad K12b
    1. 87,89% Szolad3 + 12,11% CHV001_Chalmny_Varre_18th-19th @ 1,131
    7. 66.4% Norwegian + 33.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.24


     

    Target: Nino
    Distance: 1.5423% / 0.01542331
    55.0 ISL_Viking_Age_Norse
    36.6 ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
    8.4 FIN_Levanluhta_IA2


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