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    Lightbulb Y DNA and mtDNA Haplogroup Predictor

    For Y DNA:

    Auto-extraction:
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

    Manually:
    https://ytree.morleydna.com/

    For mtDNA:

    https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/


    The process is so simple. Just select the raw DNA data file, upload, and follow the instructions. If stuck, feel free to ask!
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    I wish Chris Morley would update the Y-SNP Terminal Subclade Predictor to use the most recent version of the ISOGG tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    I wish Chris Morley would update the Y-SNP Terminal Subclade Predictor to use the most recent version of the ISOGG tree.
    yes

    my father and son came out with T1a~1~1 CTS5470 .........both data from 23andme V4
    Last edited by vettor; 06-25-2017 at 12:29 AM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483 )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-L22 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    yes

    my father and son came out with T1a~1~1 CTS5470 .........both data from 23andme V4
    Without more information there is no way to understand what your specific situation is. CTS5470 isn't in the 2013 or the 2017 haplogroup tree and neither is T1a~1~1. Ybrowse states that it is Aprrox. hg: T

    The position of CTS5470 is 16300630 which isn't even tested by 23andme v4 so your father can't have a positive or negative for that SNP from the Morley predictor. That means that there is another SNP he is positive for that wasn't mentioned or the Morley prediction result was read incorrectly.

    Will you provide a screenshot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    Without more information there is no way to understand what your specific situation is. CTS5470 isn't in the 2013 or the 2017 haplogroup tree and neither is T1a~1~1. Ybrowse states that it is Aprrox. hg: T

    The position of CTS5470 is 16300630 which isn't even tested by 23andme v4 so your father can't have a positive or negative for that SNP from the Morley predictor. That means that there is another SNP he is positive for that wasn't mentioned or the Morley prediction result was read incorrectly.

    Will you provide a screenshot?
    It states pages78 is the line............ but then it give me CTS5470 as its equivalent

    No need to bother , i did bigY and I am way beyond this line down to T1a2-Z19945
    It is basically a poor calculator due to old trees being used


    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483 )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-L22 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    It states pages78 is the line............ but then it give me CTS5470 as its equivalent
    Page78 position 14848650 is at the T1 level on the 2013 ISOGG tree and the 2017 ISOGG tree so in your case you wouldn't see a difference in an upgrade on the Morley site. The reason I mentioned I wished for an upgrade is because of the change in subclade names in some situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    No need to bother
    No bother

    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    i did bigY and I am way beyond this line down to T1a2-Z19945
    I knew that already. What I didn't know is where T1a~1~1 CTS5470 was showing in ISOGG Experimental tree ( 26 July 2013). I only have access to the last version of the ISOGG 2013 tree out of the 2013 versions.

    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    It is basically a poor calculator due to old trees being used
    No, it is not a poor calculator due to old trees being used. You are getting a very upstream result because 23andme doesn't test enough downstream SNPs because they are more interested in the health aspects of DNA testing and in the autosomal DNA. For instance, T1a2b1a1 CTS8862 position 18246590 is not tested by 23andme so even with an upgrade in the Morley predictor to the 2017 ISOGG tree you would not show to be positive for it. You would still be stuck at the T1 level which has M70/Page46/PF5662, CTS5332.1/PF7472.1, CTS5364, CTS6375, CTS9268/PF5651, CTS11054, CTS11746, Page78, PF5588, PF5608, PF5610, PF5660, PF7463
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 06-25-2017 at 07:18 AM.

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    I like this one:
    Nevgen.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurumim View Post
    I like this one:
    Nevgen.org
    Nevgen uses STRs so it predicts subclades which aren't tested by 23andme or AncestryDNA, or the MyHeritage autosomal DNA test. The Morley tool uses the Y-DNA SNP results from 23andMe, AncestryDNA and MyHeritage. Geno 2.0 Y-DNA csv files can also be converted to a list of positive and negative SNPs to be used in the Morley tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    Nevgen uses STRs so it predicts subclades which aren't tested by 23andme or AncestryDNA, or the MyHeritage autosomal DNA test. The Morley tool uses the Y-DNA SNP results from 23andMe, AncestryDNA and MyHeritage. Geno 2.0 Y-DNA csv files can also be converted to a list of positive and negative SNPs to be used in the Morley tool.
    Thanks for clearing that one. I just shared anyway because that tool is gold, I tested 12 STRs and Nevgen gave me over 90% chances for E-V13, so there went to test this SNP and it was darn correct. now I can jump straight to V13-SNP pack, saving some dollars from big Y.
    This all from FTDNA. but ye.

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