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Thread: Portuguese Y-DNA J1-M365 cluster

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    Thank you! I'll get back here as soon as i get my results back. If im j1, i will do that one after

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    Hi there again! YSEQ confirmed that my haplogroup is indeed J1. This will be enough for the time being. Later i will probably do the superclade panel.

    RCO, any tips? How my ancestors got here? I was messing around with GEDmatch eurogenes calculator (k15) and using the 1 population approximation i get:

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.038893
    2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.318249
    3 Spanish_Murcia @ 5.401530
    4 Portuguese @ 6.008474
    5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 6.337683
    6 Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.359638
    7 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.631322
    8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.796769
    9 Spanish_Aragon @ 7.572393
    10 Spanish_Galicia @ 7.623261
    11 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.942052
    12 Southwest_French @ 8.163194
    13 French @ 11.965259
    14 North_Italian @ 12.580024
    15 South_Dutch @ 16.746471
    16 French_Basque @ 17.929632
    17 Tuscan @ 19.652576
    18 Southwest_English @ 19.964258
    19 West_German @ 20.152908
    20 Southeast_English @ 21.303135

    Its safe to assume that my ancestors came from the Caucasus, by land (or maybe boat?), visited northern Italy, southern France, entered Iberia through northern Spain, finally reaching Portugal?
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    J1a1 FGC6064+ M365+
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    Portugal 1143 Portugal 1485 Portugal Order of Christ Brazil
    Very good ! If you can find your specific subgroup we can elaborate hypothesis about your Y-DNA origins. You can try FTDNA or a superclade panel !
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
    mtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal

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    I just tested my maternal uncle on 23andme and my maternal grandfather's haplogroup turned out to be J1-Z2215, or J-CTS5368. My maternal grandfather's father was born out-of-wedlock in 1880s, and his surname Perez is his mother's surname. From what my grandfather knew, the surname of his father's father was Mendez, which is Spanish but I think ultimately can also be of Portuguese extraction.

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    Portugal 1143 Portugal 1485 Portugal Order of Christ
    Quote Originally Posted by jeanL View Post
    I just tested my maternal uncle on 23andme and my maternal grandfather's haplogroup turned out to be J1-Z2215, or J-CTS5368. My maternal grandfather's father was born out-of-wedlock in 1880s, and his surname Perez is his mother's surname. From what my grandfather knew, the surname of his father's father was Mendez, which is Spanish but I think ultimately can also be of Portuguese extraction.
    It was common for names ending in -es to be written as -ez in the past. I saw quite a few of my paternal ancestors being "Rodriguez", but the oldest entries were written as "Rodrigues" (or just shortened to Roiz)
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>BY36857. Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content
    Hidden Content


    [1] "distance%=1.7679"

    Ruderico

    Celtiberian,76.6
    Roman_Imperial_proxy,15
    Guanche,8.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeanL View Post
    I just tested my maternal uncle on 23andme and my maternal grandfather's haplogroup turned out to be J1-Z2215, or J-CTS5368. My maternal grandfather's father was born out-of-wedlock in 1880s, and his surname Perez is his mother's surname. From what my grandfather knew, the surname of his father's father was Mendez, which is Spanish but I think ultimately can also be of Portuguese extraction.
    If he can test Y-12 or Y-37 or the SNPs we can guess his J1 clade.
    J1 FGC5987 to FGC6175 (188 new SNPs)
    MDKAs before Colonial Brazil
    Y-DNA - Milhazes, Barcelos, Minho, Portugal.
    mtDNA - Ilha Terceira, Azores, Portugal

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