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    Poles and Ukrainians!

    How similar are these two groups of Europeans?

    Both countries are next to each other. Both have historic relations. Both have similar size populations. Both eat similar cousin. Both speak similar languages. Both lived in the same state for centuries. Both ...

    Belarusians stand out from Ukrainians and Poles despite historic ties and geographic proximity. Mazovians and Ukrainians of Chernihiv are exceptions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    How similar are these two groups of Europeans?

    Both countries are next to each other. Both have historic relations. Both have similar size populations. Both eat similar cousin. Both speak similar languages. Both lived in the same state for centuries. Both ...

    Belarusians stand out from Ukrainians and Poles despite historic ties and geographic proximity. Mazovians and Ukrainians of Chernihiv are exceptions.


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    I guess you mean "cuisine" not cousin? ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    How similar are these two groups of Europeans?

    Both countries are next to each other. Both have historic relations. Both have similar size populations. Both eat similar cousin. Both speak similar languages. Both lived in the same state for centuries. Both ...

    Belarusians stand out from Ukrainians and Poles despite historic ties and geographic proximity. Mazovians and Ukrainians of Chernihiv are exceptions.


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    . It would also be useful, eventually, as more and more aDna and post aDna become available to do specific "local" comparisons between the various groups of which both peoples are or were composed. The differences might have been more noticeable between such further back in time.

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    Well considering their both Slav, and basically rignt next to each other, i would say their very similar.
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    We have strong ties with West Ukrainians, but weaker with East Ukrainians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    Both eat similar cousin.
    I guess you mean "cuisine" not cousin? ��
    Maybe he really meant cousin?:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    How similar are these two groups of Europeans?
    Southeastern Poland and western Ukraine appear to be rather close genetically.

    On Gedmatch, my results for Eurogenes K13 Oracle Single Population Sharing:
    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Ukrainian 2.09
    2 Ukrainian_Lviv 2.59
    3 South_Polish 2.84
    4 Polish 5.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.9% Ukrainian + 17.1% Croatian @ 1.57
    2 92.2% Ukrainian + 7.8% Serbian @ 1.58
    3 91.2% Ukrainian + 8.8% Austrian @ 1.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    I guess you mean "cuisine" not cousin? ��
    Yes! I meant cuisine. My English is not perfect.

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    Galicia and western Podolia became part of Poland well before Lublin Union (1569).

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    Ukrainians of Chernihiv should have been Belarusian. Ukrainians of Chernihiv are anthropologically similar to Belarusians and eastern Lithuanians. They even identified themselves "Litvin" (not to be confused with Baltic speaking Lithuanians) in the past. The rest of Ukrainians are as Poles or Russians (Donbass & Crimea).

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