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Thread: Yseq tested me positive for CTS723. What next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Also, here is another graph from a blog from 2014/2013? which says the Jeonju Lee royal cluster is indeed CTS2272
    The graph shows the 12 STRs of 10 Jeonju Lee samples. The first line is my mother's cousin's 12 STR Attachment 30262
    The current version of the YFull tree has listed CTS682 and CTS2272 as phylogenetically equivalent SNPs attested in three samples: NA19083 (an individual from the JPT or Japanese in Tokyo sample of the 1000 Genomes Project), YF15244 (a commercially-tested individual who has registered his place of origin as Kanagawa, Japan), and SRS954747 (analysis in progress, so this sample's precise position may be confirmed in the next update of the YFull tree; other samples on the YFull tree that bear the SRS prefix are from South Korea, so one might presume on this basis that the source of SRS954747 is also an individual from South Korea). The two Japanese members of this clade share a MRCA about 2,100 (95% CI 1,150 <-> 3,500) years before present according to the current version of the YFull tree; the estimated TMRCA of the O-CTS682/CTS2272 clade may be updated soon depending on the phylogenetic relationship that pertains among the Japanese samples and the (presumably) South Korean sample.

    F2125, on the other hand, is listed as one of the SNPs marking O-CTS682/CTS2272's parent clade. Besides Japanese & Korean O-CTS682/CTS2272, this parent clade, O-A16615/F2125, includes two commercially-tested Chinese samples, one registered as having an origin in Shandong and the other registered as having an origin in Fujian. The two Chinese samples form a clade, O-Y85894, which is a sister clade to O-CTS682/CTS2272. YFull estimates a TMRCA of 2,400 (95% CI 1,650 <-> 3,400) years before present for these two Chinese members of O-Y85894. The TMRCA of the entire O-A16615/F2125 clade, including both O-CTS682/CTS2272 and O-Y85894, is estimated to be 6,800 [95% CI 5,500 <-> 8,100] years before present.

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    A14FCFFC-7D07-4088-B759-F177F1A2A21B.pngAccording to the graph which shows the 12 STRs of 10 Jeonju Lee samples, all 10 of the samples belong to the same CTS682/CTS2272 cluster.
    However, we don't know when their common paternal ancestor lived. If their ancestor lived before 1392, which is when the Joseon dynasty was founded, their common paternal ancestor could be Taejo who is the founder of the dynasty. However, if their common paternal ancestor lived after 1392, does this mean my motherís cousinís ancestor (or any one of the other 9 samples' ancestor) may not be Taejo? If so, this could mean my motherís cousin does not belong to Joseon royal family cluster?
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    YDNA haplogroup of individual Jeonju Lee samples are quite diverse, which include O1b2, O2, N and C. At this point, unless the Jeonju Lee clan itself conducts a comprehensive DNA test of its members or conducts DNA test of ancestral remains, any speculations on Jeonju Lee's true yDNA lineage is moot.
    Last edited by cydevil; 05-11-2019 at 12:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cydevil View Post
    YDNA haplogroup of individual Jeonju Lee samples are quite diverse, which include O1b2, O2, N and C. At this point, unless the Jeonju Lee clan itself conducts a comprehensive DNA test of its members or conducts DNA test of ancestral remains, any speculations on Jeonju Lee's true yDNA lineage is moot.
    Could you please refer me to the literature which proposes that Jeonju Lee samples include O1b2, O2, N and C? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Could you please refer me to the literature which proposes that Jeonju Lee samples include O1b2, O2, N and C? Thanks.
    Results are from private individual tests posted in a Korean public forum where genetics of Koreans and related information are posted and discussed.
    Last edited by cydevil; 06-06-2019 at 07:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cydevil View Post
    Results are from private individual tests posted in a Korean public forum where genetics of Koreans and related information are posted and discussed.
    Thanks. Is this screenshot from Daum cafe one of the papers/posts you’re referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Thanks. Is this screenshot from Daum cafe one of the papers/posts you’re referring to?
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    No, it's cafe.daum.net/molanthro

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    Quote Originally Posted by cydevil View Post
    No, it's cafe.daum.net/molanthro
    Thanks for the info. Is this one of the papers/posts on cafe.net/molanthro that youíre referring to?786E3815-AC40-4310-9C39-22679707D6CE.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Thanks for the info. Is this one of the papers/posts on cafe.net/molanthro that you’re referring to?786E3815-AC40-4310-9C39-22679707D6CE.png
    Yes, it is.

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