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    Are northern and inland mainland Greeks more Slavic than we may have predicted?

    We all are familiar with Peloponnesians' genetic results... they are more or less modeled as 80% Sicilian, 20% Polish, Ukrainian or Russian. They are quite close to Albanians, and plot halfway between Sicilians and Bulgarians. A study on Peloponnesians came out this year which showed 0-14% Slavic influence, which means Peloponnesians have some, but not a lot, of Slavic DNA.

    Recently, I have received a lot of DNA results from northern and west-central Greece, the regions of Thrace, Epirus, Thessaly, Macedonia, and Western Greece, and to me they are clearly indicative of the amount of Slavic DNA assimilated into the region. Please see the following.

    It would seem to me despite being geographically south, they would plot north of Albanians, and toward Bulgaria. They're clearly not predominantly of eastern Mediterranean stock. Dodecad K12b has their North Euro as 25%+, compared to 20% on average in Peloponnese, around 12-15% in Aegean islanders, and 10-15% in south Italy.

    These are coming up like half Sicilian, half Hungarian and/or 2/3 Sicilian, 1/3 NE European Slavic rather than half Sicilian, half Bulgarian like many results we have seen before. This is clearly due to additional northeast European influence. Ancient Greeks were likely closer to Albanians today than to these.


    Florina, west Macedonia:
     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.44
    2 North_Sea 16.63
    3 West_Med 14.17
    4 West_Asian 13.15
    5 Atlantic 12.68
    6 Baltic 11.8
    7 Eastern_Euro 7.83
    8 Red_Sea 1.46
    9 Siberian 0.73
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.41
    2 Bulgarian 7.55
    3 Greek 7.97
    4 Romanian 8.37
    5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.29
    6 Central_Greek 10.48
    7 Ashkenazi 11.14
    8 Tuscan 11.28
    9 Serbian 11.35
    10 East_Sicilian 11.82
    11 West_Sicilian 12.81
    12 South_Italian 14.04

    13 North_Italian 14.65
    14 Moldavian 16.57
    15 Italian_Jewish 18.03
    16 Hungarian 18.17
    17 Austrian 18.67
    18 Croatian 18.95
    19 Sephardic_Jewish 19.24
    20 Algerian_Jewish 19.74

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 74.8% Central_Greek + 25.2% Finnish @ 3.68
    2 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Hungarian @ 3.7
    3 76.6% Central_Greek + 23.4% Estonian @ 3.88
    4 89% Greek_Thessaly + 11% North_Swedish @ 3.99
    5 88.9% Greek_Thessaly + 11.1% Finnish @ 3.99
    6 74.5% Greek_Thessaly + 25.5% Serbian @ 4
    7 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.02
    8 72.1% Central_Greek + 27.9% Ukrainian @ 4.02
    9 67.1% Greek_Thessaly + 32.9% Romanian @ 4.03
    10 57.4% Hungarian + 42.6% Cyprian @ 4.03
    11 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% East_Finnish @ 4.04
    12 74.7% Central_Greek + 25.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.09
    13 89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Swedish @ 4.14
    14 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% North_German @ 4.16
    15 75.7% Central_Greek + 24.3% East_Finnish @ 4.16
    16 89.4% Greek_Thessaly + 10.6% Danish @ 4.18
    17 83.8% Greek_Thessaly + 16.2% Hungarian @ 4.18
    18 52.3% East_German + 47.7% Cyprian @ 4.19
    19 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% Norwegian @ 4.19
    20 71.4% Central_Greek + 28.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.2


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 28.59
    2 Atlantic_Med 27.42
    3 North_European 27.25
    4 Gedrosia 6.86
    5 Southwest_Asian 6.83
    6 Northwest_African 2.21
    7 Siberian 0.42
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.4
    9 East_Asian 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.8
    2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.7
    3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.35

    4 Romanians (Behar) 9.54
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 11.2
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.29
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.96
    8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.04
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.35
    10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.88
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.93

    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.22
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.53
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.8
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.82
    16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.26
    17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.67
    18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 24.72
    19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 25.36
    20 French (HGDP) 25.8

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.4% German (Dodecad) + 46.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.65
    2 57.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.89
    3 53.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.9
    4 60.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 39.6% German (Dodecad) @ 3.03
    5 57.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 42.3% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.04
    6 77.3% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 22.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.13
    7 55.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 44.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.21
    8 55.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.38
    9 68.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 31.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.59
    10 50.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 49.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.63
    11 71.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 28.8% German (Dodecad) @ 3.66
    12 55.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 44.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.67
    13 77.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.67
    14 59.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 40.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.69
    15 68.4% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 31.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.75
    16 77.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.76
    17 69.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.77
    18 55.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.77
    19 57.2% Romanians (Behar) + 42.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.79
    20 78% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 22% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.86


     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.05
    2 North_Sea 18.78
    3 West_Med 16.26
    4 Baltic 12.86
    5 Atlantic 10.91
    6 West_Asian 10.61
    7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
    8 Red_Sea 2.48
    9 Siberian 0.43
    10 Amerindian 0.32
    11 Oceanian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.13
    2 Bulgarian 9.08
    3 Romanian 9.46
    4 Greek 9.87
    5 Tuscan 11.47
    6 Serbian 11.84
    7 Central_Greek 11.89
    8 Italian_Abruzzo 12.05
    9 Ashkenazi 12.16
    10 East_Sicilian 12.78
    11 West_Sicilian 13.89

    12 North_Italian 14.23
    13 South_Italian 15.12
    14 Moldavian 16.59
    15 Hungarian 17.74
    16 Italian_Jewish 18.64
    17 Croatian 19.05
    18 Austrian 19.15
    19 Spanish_Galicia 19.44
    20 Portuguese 19.76

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% Swedish @ 3.07
    2 88.5% Greek_Thessaly + 11.5% West_Norwegian @ 3.12
    3 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% North_Swedish @ 3.12
    4 88% Greek_Thessaly + 12% Norwegian @ 3.17
    5 84.6% Greek_Thessaly + 15.4% West_German @ 3.37
    6 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% Finnish @ 3.44
    7 82.4% Greek_Thessaly + 17.6% Hungarian @ 3.53
    8 88.6% Greek_Thessaly + 11.4% North_Dutch @ 3.54
    9 88.5% Greek_Thessaly + 11.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.56
    10 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Danish @ 3.62
    11 89.9% Greek_Thessaly + 10.1% Estonian @ 3.7
    12 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% Orcadian @ 3.72
    13 86% Greek_Thessaly + 14% East_German @ 3.74
    14 88.3% Greek_Thessaly + 11.7% North_German @ 3.76
    15 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% East_Finnish @ 3.8
    16 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% West_Scottish @ 3.8
    17 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% Irish @ 3.85
    18 87.9% Greek_Thessaly + 12.1% Ukrainian @ 3.85
    19 89.3% Greek_Thessaly + 10.7% Southeast_English @ 3.86
    20 89.1% Greek_Thessaly + 10.9% Southwest_English @ 3.88


    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 29.38
    2 Atlantic_Med 29.33
    3 Caucasus 26.15
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.38
    5 Gedrosia 6.01
    6 East_Asian 0.72
    7 Siberian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.41
    2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.65
    3 Romanians (Behar) 8.7
    4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.11
    5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.9
    6 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.05
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.31
    8 Greek (Dodecad) 13.47
    9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.68
    10 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.84
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.14
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.24

    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.22
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.28
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 20.4
    16 French (HGDP) 22.88
    17 French (Dodecad) 22.9
    18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 23.01
    19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 23.49
    20 German (Dodecad) 23.69

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.3% German (Dodecad) + 41.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.99
    2 51.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 48.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.11
    3 72.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
    4 51% Cypriots (Behar) + 49% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
    5 72.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.31
    6 80.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 19.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.31
    7 83.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.37
    8 64% Greek (Dodecad) + 36% German (Dodecad) @ 2.41
    9 83.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.43
    10 82% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.43
    11 85.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 14.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
    12 83% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.49
    13 83.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.5
    14 86.1% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.56
    15 83.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.6
    16 54% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 46% German (Dodecad) @ 2.7
    17 86.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 13.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.84
    18 81.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 18.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.86
    19 67.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 32.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.87
    20 51.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 48.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.87



    Thessaly:
     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.09
    2 Atlantic 18.36
    3 West_Med 14.22
    4 North_Sea 12.1
    5 Baltic 12.04
    6 West_Asian 10.97
    7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
    8 Red_Sea 3.89
    9 Amerindian 0.44
    10 Siberian 0.31
    11 Oceanian 0.28
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 5.41
    2 Bulgarian 6.8
    3 Greek_Thessaly 7
    4 Tuscan 8.08
    5 Italian_Abruzzo 8.27
    6 Romanian 8.75
    7 West_Sicilian 9.51
    8 Central_Greek 9.88
    9 East_Sicilian 10.54
    10 Ashkenazi 10.7
    11 North_Italian 11.78
    12 Serbian 11.81
    13 South_Italian 12.73
    14 Italian_Jewish 16.71
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.16
    16 Austrian 17.84
    17 Moldavian 17.91
    18 Algerian_Jewish 17.94
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 18.28
    20 Portuguese 18.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.5% South_Italian + 41.5% Austrian @ 2
    2 59% Bulgarian + 41% West_Sicilian @ 2.18
    3 52.2% Romanian + 47.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
    4 81.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.43
    5 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Irish @ 2.44
    6 79.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.6% Belorussian @ 2.46
    7 79.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.48
    8 86.5% Greek + 13.5% West_Scottish @ 2.49
    9 84.8% Greek + 15.2% North_German @ 2.5
    10 78.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.57
    11 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Danish @ 2.61
    12 85.8% Greek + 14.2% Southeast_English @ 2.61
    13 86.3% Greek + 13.7% North_Dutch @ 2.62
    14 75.5% West_Sicilian + 24.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
    15 78.8% West_Sicilian + 21.2% Lithuanian @ 2.7
    16 87.2% Greek + 12.8% Orcadian @ 2.72
    17 75.7% West_Sicilian + 24.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.73
    18 83.1% Greek + 16.9% South_Dutch @ 2.76
    19 65% Central_Greek + 35% Austrian @ 2.77
    20 77% West_Sicilian + 23% Belorussian @ 2.81


    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 29.75
    2 Caucasus 29.2
    3 North_European 25.29
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.55
    5 Gedrosia 6
    6 Siberian 0.86
    7 Northwest_African 0.2
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.16

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.1
    2 Greek (Dodecad) 9.27
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.55
    4 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.97
    5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 10.21
    6 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.94
    7 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.15

    8 Romanians (Behar) 11.68
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.53
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.66
    11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.8

    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.08
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.05
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.17
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.56
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.14
    17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 23.37
    18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.29
    19 Hungarians (Behar) 24.88
    20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 24.95

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.9% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.5
    2 79.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
    3 79.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.73
    4 76.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.74
    5 79.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.78
    6 77.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.87
    7 78.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.9% English (Dodecad) @ 1.91
    8 78.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
    9 77.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.2% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
    10 78.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.2% British (Dodecad) @ 1.98
    11 69.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
    12 63.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.05
    13 78.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.4% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.08
    14 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.12
    15 71.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.37
    16 70.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
    17 81.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.42
    18 82.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.53
    19 51.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.68
    20 76% Greek (Dodecad) + 24% German (Dodecad) @ 2.78



    Thessaloniki, Macedonia:
     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 20.21
    2 West_Med 17.31
    3 North_Sea 14.2
    4 Atlantic 12.43
    5 West_Asian 12.33
    6 Baltic 11.03
    7 Eastern_Euro 10.89
    8 Red_Sea 1.27
    9 Amerindian 0.34

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.94
    2 Greek 7.05
    3 Bulgarian 7.49

    4 Romanian 8.89
    5 Central_Greek 10.94
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.11
    7 Tuscan 11.19
    8 Serbian 11.51
    9 Ashkenazi 11.6
    10 East_Sicilian 12.29
    11 West_Sicilian 12.79

    12 North_Italian 14.11
    13 South_Italian 14.49
    14 Moldavian 16.38
    15 Italian_Jewish 18.38
    16 Croatian 18.82
    17 Hungarian 18.9
    18 Austrian 19.11
    19 Sephardic_Jewish 19.59
    20 Algerian_Jewish 19.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.6% Greek_Thessaly + 9.4% Chuvash @ 4.51
    2 89.1% Greek_Thessaly + 10.9% Erzya @ 4.59
    3 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.61
    4 73.9% Greek_Thessaly + 26.1% Serbian @ 4.63
    5 61.3% Central_Greek + 38.7% Moldavian @ 4.64
    6 92.3% Greek_Thessaly + 7.7% Mari @ 4.72
    7 62.1% Greek_Thessaly + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 4.8
    8 81.7% Greek_Thessaly + 18.3% Moldavian @ 4.81
    9 68.2% Greek_Thessaly + 31.8% Romanian @ 4.82
    10 89.7% Greek_Thessaly + 10.3% East_Finnish @ 4.82
    11 71.7% Central_Greek + 28.3% Ukrainian @ 4.86
    12 53.4% South_Italian + 46.6% Moldavian @ 4.88
    13 89% Greek_Thessaly + 11% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.89
    14 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.89
    15 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Tatar @ 4.91
    16 84.5% Greek_Thessaly + 15.5% Croatian @ 4.93
    17 67.4% Greek + 32.6% Serbian @ 4.96
    18 51.6% Central_Greek + 48.4% Serbian @ 4.96
    19 89.5% Greek_Thessaly + 10.5% Polish @ 4.99
    20 90.3% Greek_Thessaly + 9.7% Estonian_Polish @ 5


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 30.45
    2 North_European 28.42
    3 Atlantic_Med 26.47
    4 Southwest_Asian 7.93
    5 Gedrosia 5.06
    6 Northwest_African 0.69
    7 Siberian 0.5
    8 South_Asian 0.48

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 6.78
    2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 7.3

    3 Romanians (Behar) 7.96
    4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.25
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 10.18
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.18
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.93
    8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.3
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.08
    10 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.06
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.13
    12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 17.16

    13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.38
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.77
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 22.77
    16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.5
    17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.35
    18 Baleares (1000Genomes) 26.71
    19 Turkish (Dodecad) 27.05
    20 German (Dodecad) 27.21

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.6% Romanians (Behar) + 31.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.5
    2 68.7% Romanians (Behar) + 31.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.78
    3 66.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.8
    4 69.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.93
    5 72.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2
    6 58.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 41.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.13
    7 75.4% Romanians (Behar) + 24.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.23
    8 72.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
    9 70.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.3
    10 69.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.3
    11 67.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.36
    12 70.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.47
    13 70.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.5
    14 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.52
    15 73.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.52
    16 68.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 31.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.58

    17 63.2% Romanians (Behar) + 36.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.6
    18 77% Romanians (Behar) + 23% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.6
    19 56.7% Romanians (Behar) + 43.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.62
    20 79.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.66


     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 21.09
    2 Atlantic 18.36
    3 West_Med 14.22
    4 North_Sea 12.1
    5 Baltic 12.04
    6 West_Asian 10.97
    7 Eastern_Euro 6.28
    8 Red_Sea 3.89
    9 Amerindian 0.44
    10 Siberian 0.31
    11 Oceanian 0.28
    12 Southeast_Asian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 5.41
    2 Bulgarian 6.8
    3 Greek_Thessaly 7
    4 Tuscan 8.08
    5 Italian_Abruzzo 8.27
    6 Romanian 8.75
    7 West_Sicilian 9.51
    8 Central_Greek 9.88
    9 East_Sicilian 10.54
    10 Ashkenazi 10.7
    11 North_Italian 11.78
    12 Serbian 11.81
    13 South_Italian 12.73
    14 Italian_Jewish 16.71
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.16
    16 Austrian 17.84
    17 Moldavian 17.91
    18 Algerian_Jewish 17.94
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 18.28
    20 Portuguese 18.34

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.5% South_Italian + 41.5% Austrian @ 2
    2 59% Bulgarian + 41% West_Sicilian @ 2.18
    3 52.2% Romanian + 47.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.38
    4 81.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 18.9% Lithuanian @ 2.43
    5 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Irish @ 2.44
    6 79.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.6% Belorussian @ 2.46
    7 79.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.48
    8 86.5% Greek + 13.5% West_Scottish @ 2.49
    9 84.8% Greek + 15.2% North_German @ 2.5
    10 78.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 21.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.57
    11 86.2% Greek + 13.8% Danish @ 2.61
    12 85.8% Greek + 14.2% Southeast_English @ 2.61
    13 86.3% Greek + 13.7% North_Dutch @ 2.62
    14 75.5% West_Sicilian + 24.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.69
    15 78.8% West_Sicilian + 21.2% Lithuanian @ 2.7
    16 87.2% Greek + 12.8% Orcadian @ 2.72
    17 75.7% West_Sicilian + 24.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.73
    18 83.1% Greek + 16.9% South_Dutch @ 2.76
    19 65% Central_Greek + 35% Austrian @ 2.77
    20 77% West_Sicilian + 23% Belorussian @ 2.81


    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 29.75
    2 Caucasus 29.2
    3 North_European 25.29
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.55
    5 Gedrosia 6
    6 Siberian 0.86
    7 Northwest_African 0.2
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.16

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 5.1
    2 Greek (Dodecad) 9.27
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.55
    4 Tuscan (HGDP) 9.97
    5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 10.21
    6 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.94
    7 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.15

    8 Romanians (Behar) 11.68
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.53
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.66
    11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.8
    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.08
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.05
    14 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.17
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.56
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 23.14
    17 Baleares (1000Genomes) 23.37
    18 Galicia (1000Genomes) 24.29
    19 Hungarians (Behar) 24.88
    20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 24.95

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.9% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.5
    2 79.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.69
    3 79.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.5% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.73
    4 76.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 23.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.74
    5 79.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 20.6% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.78
    6 77.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.87
    7 78.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.9% English (Dodecad) @ 1.91
    8 78.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
    9 77.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 22.2% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.97
    10 78.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.2% British (Dodecad) @ 1.98
    11 69.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.01
    12 63.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 36.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.05
    13 78.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.4% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.08
    14 78.9% Greek (Dodecad) + 21.1% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.12
    15 71.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.37
    16 70.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.39
    17 81.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.8% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.42
    18 82.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.53
    19 51.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.68
    20 76% Greek (Dodecad) + 24% German (Dodecad) @ 2.78




    Agios Basilios, Western Greece:
     


    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 22.11
    2 West_Med 15.53
    3 West_Asian 14.28
    4 Baltic 13.89
    5 Atlantic 12.64
    6 North_Sea 9.88
    7 Eastern_Euro 7.98
    8 Red_Sea 2.56
    9 Oceanian 0.78
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.28
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 4.14
    2 Greek_Thessaly 5.83
    3 Bulgarian 7.21
    4 Central_Greek 8.77
    5 Ashkenazi 9.82
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 10.05
    7 Romanian 10.05
    8 East_Sicilian 10.3
    9 West_Sicilian 11.99

    10 Tuscan 12.26
    11 South_Italian 12.26
    12 Serbian 14.11
    13 North_Italian 16.5
    14 Italian_Jewish 16.76
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.28
    16 Algerian_Jewish 17.81
    17 Moldavian 18.15
    18 Croatian 20.35
    19 Tunisian_Jewish 20.94
    20 Turkish 21.03

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Cyprian @ 2.2
    2 81.5% Bulgarian + 18.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.88
    3 81.1% Bulgarian + 18.9% Samaritan @ 3.06
    4 77.7% Central_Greek + 22.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.19
    5 87.2% Greek + 12.8% Moldavian @ 3.2
    6 91.6% Greek + 8.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.21
    7 92.6% Greek + 7.4% Erzya @ 3.22
    8 71.7% Greek + 28.3% Bulgarian @ 3.27
    9 92.1% Greek + 7.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.28
    10 91.1% Greek + 8.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.28
    11 55.9% Bulgarian + 44.1% Central_Greek @ 3.29
    12 78.9% Bulgarian + 21.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.3
    13 93% Greek + 7% Tabassaran @ 3.3
    14 92.8% Greek + 7.2% Lezgin @ 3.3
    15 78.2% Central_Greek + 21.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.31
    16 82.4% Bulgarian + 17.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.32
    17 80.8% Central_Greek + 19.2% Lithuanian @ 3.32
    18 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Lithuanian @ 3.33
    19 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.34
    20 91.7% Greek + 8.3% Ukrainian @ 3.35


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 30.79
    2 North_European 27.24
    3 Atlantic_Med 25.21
    4 Southwest_Asian 7.82
    5 Gedrosia 5.99
    6 Northwest_African 1.94
    7 Siberian 0.34
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.3
    9 South_Asian 0.26
    10 East_African 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 7.77
    2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 8.59

    3 Romanians (Behar) 9.21
    4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.54
    5 Greek (Dodecad) 9.75
    6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.06
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 14.37
    8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.79
    9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.99
    10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.29
    11 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 16.31

    12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.38
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.98
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.68
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 22.3
    16 Hungarians (Behar) 23.95
    17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 24.12
    18 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.53
    19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 27.53
    20 Turks (Behar) 27.65

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.41
    2 68.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.45
    3 71.4% Romanians (Behar) + 28.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.49
    4 72.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.5
    5 76.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.52
    6 68.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.56
    7 71.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.6
    8 75.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 24.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.62
    9 70.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 29.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.68
    10 69.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 30.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.69
    11 64.6% Romanians (Behar) + 35.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.7
    12 72.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.75
    13 54.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.78
    14 71.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.78
    15 64.6% Romanians (Behar) + 35.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.78
    16 73.2% Romanians (Behar) + 26.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 2.78
    17 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
    18 76.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.7% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.83
    19 72.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.87
    20 50.1% German (Dodecad) + 49.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.89



    Epirus:
     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 23.56
    2 West_Med 18.99
    3 Baltic 14.65
    4 Atlantic 13.79
    5 West_Asian 12.71
    6 North_Sea 8.45
    7 Eastern_Euro 5.63
    8 Red_Sea 1.31
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.87
    10 Northeast_African 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 3.97
    2 Greek_Thessaly 6.79
    3 Central_Greek 8.95
    4 Bulgarian 9.58
    5 East_Sicilian 10.26
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 10.53
    7 Ashkenazi 11.12
    8 West_Sicilian 11.26
    9 South_Italian 11.32

    10 Tuscan 11.57
    11 Romanian 12.66
    12 North_Italian 15.72
    13 Italian_Jewish 16.14
    14 Serbian 16.56
    15 Algerian_Jewish 16.74
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 16.9
    17 Tunisian_Jewish 20.5
    18 Moldavian 20.62
    19 Cyprian 21.42
    20 Libyan_Jewish 22

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.4% Greek + 2.6% Sardinian @ 3.88
    2 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Dai @ 3.93
    3 99.4% Greek + 0.6% She @ 3.93
    4 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Vietnamese @ 3.93
    5 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Miaozu @ 3.93
    6 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Tujia @ 3.93
    7 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Lahu @ 3.93
    8 91.1% Greek + 8.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.94
    9 98.5% Greek + 1.5% Lithuanian @ 3.94
    10 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Cambodian @ 3.94
    11 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Yizu @ 3.94
    12 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Naxi @ 3.94
    13 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Japanese @ 3.94
    14 99.5% Greek + 0.5% Malay @ 3.95
    15 99.4% Greek + 0.6% Tu @ 3.95
    16 98.6% Greek + 1.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.95
    17 99.5% Greek + 0.5% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 3.95
    18 98.7% Greek + 1.3% Ukrainian @ 3.95
    19 99.5% Greek + 0.5% Xibo @ 3.95
    20 99.6% Greek + 0.4% Hezhen @ 3.96



    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 33.47
    2 Atlantic_Med 28.75
    3 North_European 24.26
    4 Southwest_Asian 7.68
    5 Gedrosia 2.93
    6 Northwest_African 1.91
    7 East_Asian 1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.87
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 7.46
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 9.04
    4 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.59
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.06
    6 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.33

    7 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.49
    8 Romanians (Behar) 12.63
    9 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.69
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.94

    11 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 12.99
    12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 13.23
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 15.37
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 17.4
    15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 19.67
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.74
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.29
    18 Cypriots (Behar) 26.14
    19 Baleares (1000Genomes) 26.15
    20 Galicia (1000Genomes) 27.27

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 46.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.84
    2 54% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 46% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.15
    3 85.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 14.8% German (Dodecad) @ 2.2
    4 88.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.27
    5 88.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.28
    6 83.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 16.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.37
    7 50.1% Romanians (Behar) + 49.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.47
    8 86.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 13.3% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.51
    9 86.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 13.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.55
    10 87.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 12.3% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.62
    11 87.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 12.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.65
    12 53% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.67
    13 87.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 12.6% English (Dodecad) @ 2.67
    14 87.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 12.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.7
    15 55.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.71
    16 88.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.71
    17 56.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) + 43.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.76
    18 88.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.77
    19 88.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.79
    20 88.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 11.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.8

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    this is fascinating! I know so little of this. thanks all of you who do this type of analysis and explain it in layman's terms.

    this Dodecad K12b mixed mode two population model shows interesting results for me (regular A526018, Genesis XY7037010),
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    Here is one from Serres in Macedonia. Same pattern.

    Nationalism gets in the way of understanding the truth. In the 1800s, northern and inland central Greece was significantly Slavic speaking, and has since been fully Hellenized, so it is obvious that Greeks from these regions today have absorbed that Slavic ancestry.

    Not that phenotype is any indication, but I think it shows there as well. Especially if you compare the people in the north and inland regions to people on the islands.

     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 18.54
    2 Atlantic 16.78
    3 West_Med 16.47
    4 West_Asian 14.25
    5 Baltic 12.46
    6 North_Sea 10.95
    7 Eastern_Euro 4.72
    8 Red_Sea 4.51
    9 Northeast_African 1.31

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 5.71
    2 Greek_Thessaly 6.71
    3 Bulgarian 7.13
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.49
    5 Tuscan 8.58
    6 Romanian 9.32
    7 Central_Greek 9.38
    8 East_Sicilian 9.94
    9 West_Sicilian 10.56

    10 Ashkenazi 10.79
    11 North_Italian 12.37
    12 South_Italian 12.38
    13 Serbian 13.19
    14 Italian_Jewish 17.17
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.54
    16 Moldavian 18.31
    17 Algerian_Jewish 18.4
    18 Portuguese 19
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 19
    20 Spanish_Andalucia 19.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 59.9% Bulgarian + 40.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.44
    2 55.5% Bulgarian + 44.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.51
    3 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% South_Italian @ 3.61
    4 58.1% Romanian + 41.9% South_Italian @ 3.83
    5 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% Central_Greek @ 3.85
    6 51.9% Romanian + 48.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.88
    7 62.3% South_Italian + 37.7% Croatian @ 3.89
    8 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.98
    9 68.1% East_Sicilian + 31.9% Croatian @ 4.03
    10 74.7% Bulgarian + 25.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.18
    11 50.2% Romanian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 4.19
    12 69.8% Central_Greek + 30.2% Croatian @ 4.24
    13 53% Italian_Abruzzo + 47% Romanian @ 4.25
    14 56.6% Bulgarian + 43.4% Tuscan @ 4.27
    15 74.5% Bulgarian + 25.5% Italian_Jewish @ 4.29
    16 69.4% Central_Greek + 30.6% Austrian @ 4.38
    17 69.4% South_Italian + 30.6% South_Polish @ 4.4
    18 72.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.3% Croatian @ 4.4
    19 67.9% East_Sicilian + 32.1% Austrian @ 4.41
    20 85.4% Greek + 14.6% French @ 4.42


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.22
    2 Atlantic_Med 26.73
    3 North_European 24.09
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.27
    5 Gedrosia 4.36
    6 Northwest_African 1.82
    7 Siberian 0.3
    8 East_African 0.16
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.23
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.63
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.11
    4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.12
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.25

    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 12.14
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.17
    8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.46
    9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.56
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.57
    11 Romanians (Behar) 12.7
    12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.11
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.11
    14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.93
    15 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.27
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.25
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.39
    18 Cypriots (Behar) 24.85
    19 Turks (Behar) 25.88
    20 Hungarians (Behar) 27.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
    2 53.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
    3 52.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.57
    4 52.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.72
    5 69.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.94
    6 85.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 14.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.99
    7 90.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2
    8 72.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.01
    9 50.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 49.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.02
    10 90.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.12
    11 90% Greek (Dodecad) + 10% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.13
    12 92.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.8% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.13
    13 89.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 10.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.16
    14 92.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.17
    15 50.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 49.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.18
    16 90.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.19
    17 92.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.2
    18 91.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 8.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.22
    19 90.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.23
    20 89.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 10.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.25



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Here is one from Serres in Macedonia. Same pattern.

    Nationalism gets in the way of understanding the truth. In the 1800s, northern and inland central Greece was significantly Slavic speaking, and has since been fully Hellenized, so it is obvious that Greeks from these regions today have absorbed that Slavic ancestry.

    Not that phenotype is any indication, but I think it shows there as well. Especially if you compare the people in the north and inland regions to people on the islands.

     

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 18.54
    2 Atlantic 16.78
    3 West_Med 16.47
    4 West_Asian 14.25
    5 Baltic 12.46
    6 North_Sea 10.95
    7 Eastern_Euro 4.72
    8 Red_Sea 4.51
    9 Northeast_African 1.31

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 5.71
    2 Greek_Thessaly 6.71
    3 Bulgarian 7.13
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.49
    5 Tuscan 8.58
    6 Romanian 9.32
    7 Central_Greek 9.38
    8 East_Sicilian 9.94
    9 West_Sicilian 10.56

    10 Ashkenazi 10.79
    11 North_Italian 12.37
    12 South_Italian 12.38
    13 Serbian 13.19
    14 Italian_Jewish 17.17
    15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.54
    16 Moldavian 18.31
    17 Algerian_Jewish 18.4
    18 Portuguese 19
    19 Spanish_Extremadura 19
    20 Spanish_Andalucia 19.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 59.9% Bulgarian + 40.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.44
    2 55.5% Bulgarian + 44.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.51
    3 65.8% Bulgarian + 34.2% South_Italian @ 3.61
    4 58.1% Romanian + 41.9% South_Italian @ 3.83
    5 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% Central_Greek @ 3.85
    6 51.9% Romanian + 48.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.88
    7 62.3% South_Italian + 37.7% Croatian @ 3.89
    8 62.3% Bulgarian + 37.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.98
    9 68.1% East_Sicilian + 31.9% Croatian @ 4.03
    10 74.7% Bulgarian + 25.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.18
    11 50.2% Romanian + 49.8% Central_Greek @ 4.19
    12 69.8% Central_Greek + 30.2% Croatian @ 4.24
    13 53% Italian_Abruzzo + 47% Romanian @ 4.25
    14 56.6% Bulgarian + 43.4% Tuscan @ 4.27
    15 74.5% Bulgarian + 25.5% Italian_Jewish @ 4.29
    16 69.4% Central_Greek + 30.6% Austrian @ 4.38
    17 69.4% South_Italian + 30.6% South_Polish @ 4.4
    18 72.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.3% Croatian @ 4.4
    19 67.9% East_Sicilian + 32.1% Austrian @ 4.41
    20 85.4% Greek + 14.6% French @ 4.42


    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.22
    2 Atlantic_Med 26.73
    3 North_European 24.09
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.27
    5 Gedrosia 4.36
    6 Northwest_African 1.82
    7 Siberian 0.3
    8 East_African 0.16
    9 Sub_Saharan 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek (Dodecad) 5.23
    2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.63
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 10.11
    4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.12
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.25

    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 12.14
    7 Tuscan (HGDP) 12.17
    8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.46
    9 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.56
    10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 12.57
    11 Romanians (Behar) 12.7
    12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 13.11
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.11
    14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.93
    15 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.27
    16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.25
    17 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.39
    18 Cypriots (Behar) 24.85
    19 Turks (Behar) 25.88
    20 Hungarians (Behar) 27.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
    2 53.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 46.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
    3 52.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.57
    4 52.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.72
    5 69.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 30.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 1.94
    6 85.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 14.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.99
    7 90.3% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2
    8 72.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 27.8% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.01
    9 50.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 49.5% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.02
    10 90.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 2.12
    11 90% Greek (Dodecad) + 10% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.13
    12 92.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.8% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.13
    13 89.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 10.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 2.16
    14 92.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.17
    15 50.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 49.7% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.18
    16 90.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.19
    17 92.2% Greek (Dodecad) + 7.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.2
    18 91.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 8.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.22
    19 90.7% Greek (Dodecad) + 9.3% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.23
    20 89.4% Greek (Dodecad) + 10.6% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.25


    i've met plenty of Greeks mostly from Crete (Kriti) and most looked Arabic. however there have been a few families that had brownish blonde hair and true blue eyes. their facial features weren't very Arabic either..... this is starting to explain things to me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    i've met plenty of Greeks mostly from Crete (Kriti) and most looked Arabic. however there have been a few families that had brownish blonde hair and true blue eyes. their facial features weren't very Arabic either..... this is starting to explain things to me....
    The people of Crete are genetically closest to those of Sicily. There are very few differences between the two islands. Crete is genetically very distinct from the mainland.

    If the surnames of the families ended in -akis, they were likely Cretan, if not they wouldn't have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    The people of Crete are genetically closest to those of Sicily. There are very few differences between the two islands. Crete is genetically very distinct from the mainland.

    If the surnames of the families ended in -akis, they were likely Cretan, if not they wouldn't have been.

    Very much so. Stamatakis and Kantounatakis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Very much so. Stamatakis and Kantounatakis.
    Yes. Crete is not one of the regions with much Slavic influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Yes. Crete is not one of the regions with much Slavic influence.
    I've always joked with them that their blue eyes came from the Vikings when they played in the Mediterranean..... but no one really knows how the blue eyes became so prevalent in their region (Sfakia).
    Last edited by JerryS.; 07-23-2017 at 10:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    I've always joked with them that their blue eyes came from the Vikings when they played in the Mediterranean..... but no one really knows how the blue eyes became so prevalent in their region (Sfakia).
    It could be ancient Dorian Greek input or, more recently, Venetian.

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