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    That's interesting, and I think you analyze it correctly.

    My mom has a decent amount of German, which gets partially put into Irish and partially put into some weird SE Europe categories (a little Greek, some Balkans). I can see how averaging it out might give you the Rhineland, but it seems odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassoneg View Post
    MyHeritage is crap for northern Europeans as far as I've seen. Their Scandinavian is all over the place, their British/Irish/West Europe is highly variable, and they always seem to add 15% too much Iberian.
    And Ancestry DNA is garbage for Southeast Europeans, compared to MyHeritage, which while not perfect looks way better.
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    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Both companies are mainly made for the average Western and Northern European mixed American so I think thatís why it detects German, Norwegian and for example Danish DNA much better than non mainland European DNA. Italian DNA fits into the non mainland euro category due to all the African influence as well as it being so close to Africa, itís at the southern boarder of Europe and Africa. Ireland has lots of influences from different groups such as Iberians Nordics and even Berbers, their DNA results are harder to precisely designate due to all their influences as well as it being isolated away from the rest of Europe like Germany.

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    Here are both my maternal grandfather (North Dutch) and mom:

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    Mc Donald:
    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
    Dodecad World9:
    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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    Italy, isn't genetically ''close to Africa''.

    Quote Originally Posted by czl View Post
    Both companies are mainly made for the aver

    age Western and Northern European mixed American so I think thatís why it detects German, Norwegian and for example Danish DNA much better than non mainland European DNA. Italian DNA fits into the non mainland euro category due to all the African influence as well as it being so close to Africa, itís at the southern boarder of Europe and Africa. Ireland has lots of influences from different groups such as Iberians Nordics and even Berbers, their DNA results are harder to precisely designate due to all their influences as well as it being isolated away from the rest of Europe like Germany.
    Mc Donald:
    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
    Dodecad World9:
    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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    Quote Originally Posted by czl View Post
    Both companies are mainly made for the average Western and Northern European mixed American so I think thatís why it detects German, Norwegian and for example Danish DNA much better than non mainland European DNA. Italian DNA fits into the non mainland euro category due to all the African influence as well as it being so close to Africa, itís at the southern boarder of Europe and Africa. Ireland has lots of influences from different groups such as Iberians Nordics and even Berbers, their DNA results are harder to precisely designate due to all their influences as well as it being isolated away from the rest of Europe like Germany.
    I think all the commercial tests actually struggle with NW European DNA and the exact buckets to throw them into because they cluster so closely (i.e. the actual and potential reference populations overlap significantly). MyHeritage claims I'm almost 70% English, AncestryDNA gave me only about 1/4 German with the rest spread to Scandinavia, Britain and Eastern Europe - and I am German from Germany. I see a lot of results of Brits from the UK getting significant Scandinavian scores in spite of no recorded Scandinavian ancestors in the last 200 years.

    The massive overlap between those populations is of course a result of a shared ethnic heritage 1000+ years ago..but that's not the timeframe they focus on and promise to deliver on. I think this is the real problem with the focus on American immigrant populations. Those customers primarily want to know what boat their ancestors jumped off from 1620 onward..but the tests will often struggle to pinpoint it due to those older relationships between peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinBMc View Post
    For Southern Europeans too. My Dad is half Italian and MyHeritage gives him only 23.7% Italian, and 46% Greek. Even if you combine them, it's nearly 70% - way, way more than his Southern Europe should be. In comparison, AncestryDNA gives him 44% Europe South, and 23andMe gave him about 53% in Southern Europe combined.
    23.7% italian seems about correct...my father line has been in italy for over 400 years and he gets
    Europe 100.0%
    South Europe 56.6%
    Italian 56.6%



    in 23andme he gets 22.7% Italian

    so MyHeritage for my family lines are far superior than 23andme



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimanto View Post
    Italy, isn't genetically ''close to Africa''.
    I never said that. I said it has African influence and is geographically close (closer) to Africa than Germany for example
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    1/4 Russian, 1/8 Ashkenazi, 1/8 Belarusian, 1/8 Lithuanian, 1/8 Ukrainian, 1/8 Italian, 1/16 Kazakh, ~ 1/16 Black, 1/128 Uzbek

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    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 49%
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    Ulster, Ireland
    Great Britain 47%
    Low Confidence Regions
    European Jewish1%
    Europe South<1%
    Europe West<1%
    Finland/Northwest Russia<1%

    23andMe DNA Results
    European 100%
    British & Irish 90.8%
    United Kingdom
    Scandinavian 1.4%
    Italian 0.4%
    Broadly Northwestern European 6.0%
    Broadly Southern European 0.3%
    Broadly European 1.0%

    My results run through MyHeritage seem rather consistent.

    Ancestry Results
    Europe 100.0%
    North and West Europe 98.0%
    English 54.9%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 43.1%
    East European 2.0%
    Results 100.0%

    FTDNA Results
    Europe 99.1%
    North and West Europe 97.0%
    English 51.9%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 44.2%
    Scandinavian 0.9%
    East European 2.1%
    West Asian 0.9%
    Results Amerijoe 100.0%

    23andMe
    Europe 96.9%
    North and West Europe 94.6%
    English 49.4%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 42.4%
    Scandinavian 2.8%
    East European 2.3%
    West Asian 3.1%
    Results Amerijoe 100.0%

    MyHeritage
    Europe 98.9%
    North and West Europe 98.1%
    English 52.6%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 42.9%
    Scandinavian 2.6%
    East European 0.8%
    West Asian 1.1%
    Results Amerijoe 100.0%

    If I want to jump across the Channel, I go with Geno 2.0, Helix Version

    Your First Reference Population: Danish
    This reference population is based on people currently living in Denmark. The dominant Scandinavian component likely reflects the earliest settlers in northern Europe, hunter-gatherers who arrived there more than 30,000 years ago. The other European percentages likely reflect movement of groups north as the ice sheets retreated. As groups moved throughout Europe, they spread their genetic patterns. And today, Northern European populations retain the links to both early and later migrants from the south and east.

    DANISH %

    Northwestern Europe 85%
    Northeastern Europe 10%
    Eastern Europe 3%
    Jewish Diaspora 2%

    YOU %

    Northwestern Europe 83%
    Italy & Southern Europe 11%
    Northeastern Europe 6%

    Your Second Reference Population: Norwegian
    This reference population is associated with a modern-day Norwegian population. The large Scandinavian component is typical for the region and is likely associated with some of the earliest settlers to Europe some 40,000 years ago. The western/central and eastern European components indicate recent mixing with neighboring groups to the south of Norway, while the Finland/Siberia components suggest influence from indigenous groups to the north and east, such as the Sami from Sweden and Finland.

    NORWEGIAN %

    Northwestern Europe 83%
    Northeastern Europe 14%
    Eastern Europe 3%

    YOU %

    Northwestern Europe 83%
    Italy & Southern Europe 11%
    Northeastern Europe 6%

    The above Geno 2.0 are based on Helix inputation analysis. Geno analysis done two years previously indicated 97% GB&I with Irish being 1st. reference pop. and Scottish being 2nd. with 2% Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czl View Post
    I never said that. I said it has African influence and is geographically close (closer) to Africa than Germany for example ''Italian DNA fits into the non mainland euro category due to all the African influence as well as it being so close to Africa''
    I don't think I misinterpreted what you said. The southern tip of Mezzogiorno has a close proximity to Tunesia but didn't receive much gene flow from the Maghreb as for the present day population of the Mezzogiorno. Surely the Phoenicians must've had some impact on the southern Italian peoples but this is still not proven to be a fact imo and the Phoenicians came from the Levant originally. Also the Maghreb is not considered part of the Mediterranean continuum which basically starts in the centre of the Mediterranean and ends in Cyprus.
    Last edited by Dimanto; 08-20-2018 at 12:32 AM.
    Mc Donald:
    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
    Dodecad World9:
    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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