Somalis and E-Y17859

[Bulletproofpride]

But how do we get Xaskul & Gungundhabe samples? I don't know anyone from those clans. Are you related to them? Can you convince any to do Nebula?

I wish I was. Unfortunately I’m only related to Abgaal and we already know where they plot on the Y tree. We just have to be patient for now. Sooner or later we will stumble upon a Gugundhabe. I think mujahid Nuur should start a thread on Somalispot encouraging more non-hiiraab Hawiye to take a DNA test since that website has a lot of lurkers from different clans.

[farjanomar]

@Netnomad @Mujahid Nur @Garaacad

FTDNA has created a 3rd sublade for E-FT24258. A Warsangali guy got it.

E-FT24258:

E-FT18668. (Dhulbahante linked)
E-BY203531. (Wabeeneye linked)
E-FT59989. (Warsangali linked)

There is 2nd Warsangali with almost identical STRs, that should have gotten the same subclade, but, did only Y111.

[farjanomar]

@Bulletproofpride @garaacad @Nur Mujahid

I hear you guys talk about contacting the E-By8081 Murursade guy who left yfull.
Ist possible to DM him on Yfull unless he does rejoin yfull.

[Farroukh]

E-M35 must be considered as typical for Somalians, others are exotic

Highly likely E-M123 is -> E-M84.

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

@Farroukh we have sub clans in Somalia like Leysan and probibally many more who are positive for E-M123 but they don't have a heavy presence in the western diaspora. They carry a middle Eastern or Eurasian subclade of E-M123, PRI
probibally from Yamen.

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

Can we determine whether some of the Somalis on 23andme are positive for subclade 163949, if they opload there 23andme results on the Somali project?

[Farroukh]

E-M123, PRI probibally from Yamen.

Yes, Yemen is the most suitable source of Somalian E-M123.

Can you post here their YSTRs? I'd like to predict their subclade under M123.

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

Yes, Yemen is the most suitable source of Somalian E-M123.

Can you post here their YSTRs? I'd like to predict their subclade under M123.

@Natnomad can help you with that, and maybe @farjanomar as they may have access to the Somali project where the Somali E-M123 sample are,im not very techno smart.

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

E-M35 must be considered as typical for Somalians, others are exotic

Highly likely E-M123 is -> E-M84.

Leysan somalia E-BY70004 13 24 13 10 16-17 11 12 13 13 11 33 15 9-9 11 11 26 14 20 32 14-16-16-17 10 11 17-22 17 13 19 18 31-35 13 10 10 8 15-15 7 10 10 8 10 10 0 21-24 19 13 12 13 16 7 11 25 20 13 13 11 14 10 12 10 11 34 15 8 15 11 22 28 19 13 12 13 11 12 8 10 11 10 11 12 31 11 12 18 13 13 12 22 16 18 16 24 14 12 15 25 14 21 22 12 14 17 9 12 11
2.1a: T-M70>L162>L208>Y16897>Y45591>T-BY181210>T-FGC92488 - TMRCA ~800 YBP (~12th to ~13th century CE)
68 N89672 Habar Yonis, Reer Sugulle Somalia T-M70 13 23 15 10 13-15 11 12 11 14 14 29

[Farroukh]

Leysan somalia E-BY70004

Yes, it is a E-M84...->Y102168, relatively recent migration from Hadhramaut.