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    Using the PuntDNAL K10 I got German_North as my top result at 2.77. Irish came in at number 7 at 5.20. I don't know what this means since it's meant to be ancient. How ancient? My brother's been told that he looks German though and that a lady in a shop thought he was a foreigner so it's interesting to get that result.
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    Paternal great grandfather (mt): Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)

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    Using punt10 English south is my top population in oracle 4 for 23andMe data using standard gedmatch. With Living dna data it is also English south.
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    Wow, I only now discover that below "Oracle", mixed mode exists; the Eurogenes K13 is quite impressive, if you ask me.

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.8% South_Dutch + 4.2% Dai @ 3.22
    2 95.1% South_Dutch + 4.9% Malay @ 3.22
    3 95.3% South_Dutch + 4.7% Cambodian @ 3.25
    4 95.7% South_Dutch + 4.3% Vietnamese @ 3.27
    5 95.6% South_Dutch + 4.4% Lahu @ 3.38
    etc.
    Ancestry (approx.): ~88.75% Northwest-Europe; 6.25 Jewish; ~4% Indonesia; ~1% India

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    Wow, I only now discover that below "Oracle", mixed mode exists; the Eurogenes K13 is quite impressive, if you ask me.

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.8% South_Dutch + 4.2% Dai @ 3.22
    2 95.1% South_Dutch + 4.9% Malay @ 3.22
    3 95.3% South_Dutch + 4.7% Cambodian @ 3.25
    4 95.7% South_Dutch + 4.3% Vietnamese @ 3.27
    5 95.6% South_Dutch + 4.4% Lahu @ 3.38
    etc.
    I've always found Mixed Mode works for people who are admixed with close populations on multiple grand parents.
    Predominately English, Irish & German with Dutch, Swiss, French & Polish
    Y Haplogroup E-V13 ("Siegel" via Prussia), Mt Haplogroup H24a1 (via Unknown)

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    serious question here.... since autosomal DNA can give mixed results, how accurate would a Y DNA test be at determining your father's ethnicity with regards to his mother's side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    serious question here.... since autosomal DNA can give mixed results, how accurate would a Y DNA test be at determining your father's ethnicity with regards to his mother's side?

    If your father is mixed, then Y-DNA would not be able to say something sensible about his mother's ancestry; in my own case, my Y-DNA haplogroup doesn't tell me anything about the East-Asian ancestors of my paternal grandmother. My father's X-chromosome would probably be able to tell so, but I I did not inherit that one. Only autosomal DNA would be able to tell about ethnic background, but it would be difficult, without testing your father or grandmother, to tell who was responsible for transmitting certain pieces of DNA.
    Ancestry (approx.): ~88.75% Northwest-Europe; 6.25 Jewish; ~4% Indonesia; ~1% India

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    serious question here.... since autosomal DNA can give mixed results, how accurate would a Y DNA test be at determining your father's ethnicity with regards to his mother's side?
    In Addition to what Pylsteen said, Y testing provides no true insight specific to ethnicity. Most of our haplogroups go back at least 3000 years, so the ethnic implications of the single individual that passed on that haplogroup are likely insignificant. Now thats not to say Y haplogroups are worthless and can't be directional. Based on density and migration patterns of that haplogroup you can learn a lot, I just wouldn't consider it "ethnicity."

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    My Y Haplogroup is best known in the Balkan region. My paternal ancestors came from Prussia where the haplogroup is present in about 3-4% of males. Is that to say I'm not Balkan? Most tests say I am in small portions; however, I have no reason to believe these Balkan parts came from that specific line.
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    Predominately English, Irish & German with Dutch, Swiss, French & Polish
    Y Haplogroup E-V13 ("Siegel" via Prussia), Mt Haplogroup H24a1 (via Unknown)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylsteen View Post
    Wow, I only now discover that below "Oracle", mixed mode exists; the Eurogenes K13 is quite impressive, if you ask me..
    I agree. Out of all of them Eurogenes K13 seems to be the most accurate for my background anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FionnSneachta View Post
    I agree. Out of all of them Eurogenes K13 seems to be the most accurate for my background anyway.
    Same here. I suspect you're not alone. K13 does a fantastic job on myself.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Same here. I suspect you're not alone. K13 does a fantastic job on myself.
    Something strange happened with my results. On Gedmatch/23andme MDLP calcs were most accurate, and Eurogenes was off. I found the reverse on Genesis/LDNA.
    The more I learn about this DNA stuff the less I know.

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