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    Mycenaean and Crete Armenoi (Dorian) on GEDMatch!

    Mycenaean

    They are similar to Sicilians, yes, but Sardinian shifted on most calculators, have higher "Atlanto Med" and lack the Levant/North African input into Sicilians. It is obvious this way that they are NOT in fact identical to Sicilians and Ashkenazim, but more European.

    Dodecad K12b:
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 40.33
    2 Caucasus 40
    3 Southwest_Asian 9.37
    4 North_European 8.38
    5 Gedrosia 1.82
    6 Northwest_African 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.77
    2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 11.83
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.29
    4 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.34
    5 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.72
    6 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.47
    7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.81
    8 Greek (Dodecad) 16.06
    9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.16
    10 O_Italian (Dodecad) 17.76
    11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 18.17
    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.37
    13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 21.35
    14 Cypriots (Behar) 22.41
    15 Baleares (1000Genomes) 28.39
    16 Turkish (Dodecad) 28.44
    17 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 29.42
    18 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 29.63
    19 Murcia (1000Genomes) 30.01
    20 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 30.25

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61% Cypriots (Behar) + 39% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.92
    2 70.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 29.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.99
    3 78.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.29
    4 78.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.5% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.43
    5 71.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 28.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.53
    6 54.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 45.2% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8
    7 51.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 48.5% Armenians (Behar) @ 8.06
    8 69.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 8.36
    9 59.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 40.6% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.43
    10 56.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.2% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 8.46
    11 56.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Adygei (HGDP) @ 8.57
    12 57.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 42.7% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.61
    13 70.8% Greek (Dodecad) + 29.2% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 8.61
    14 60.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 39.6% Georgians (Behar) @ 8.91
    15 50.6% Sardinian (HGDP) + 49.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 8.91
    16 52.1% Turks (Behar) + 47.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 9.04
    17 51.7% Sardinian (HGDP) + 48.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 9.13
    18 69.1% Cypriots (Behar) + 30.9% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 9.3
    19 71.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 28.5% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 9.56
    20 52% Sardinian (HGDP) + 48% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 9.6


    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 31.38
    2 West_Med 28.12
    3 Atlantic 22.29
    4 West_Asian 9.7
    5 North_Sea 7.39
    6 Red_Sea 1.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Sicilian 12.79
    2 South_Italian 13.99
    3 Algerian_Jewish 14.6
    4 Italian_Jewish 14.85
    5 Tuscan 14.98
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.67
    7 East_Sicilian 15.98
    8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.1
    9 Central_Greek 16.34
    10 Greek 18.07
    11 North_Italian 18.29
    12 Tunisian_Jewish 19.11
    13 Ashkenazi 19.35
    14 Greek_Thessaly 20.04
    15 Libyan_Jewish 21.32
    16 Spanish_Andalucia 21.81
    17 Cyprian 22.21
    18 Sardinian 23.14
    19 Spanish_Murcia 23.34
    20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.5

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64% Italian_Jewish + 36% Sardinian @ 8.61
    2 61.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 38.8% Sardinian @ 8.64
    3 66.3% South_Italian + 33.7% Sardinian @ 8.81
    4 64.9% Algerian_Jewish + 35.1% Sardinian @ 8.94
    5 70.1% West_Sicilian + 29.9% Sardinian @ 9.01
    6 58.4% Sardinian + 41.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.32
    7 56% Tunisian_Jewish + 44% Sardinian @ 9.45
    8 63.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.6% Sardinian @ 10.05
    9 51.3% Cyprian + 48.7% Sardinian @ 10.06
    10 55.2% Sardinian + 44.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 10.25
    11 75.7% Algerian_Jewish + 24.3% French_Basque @ 10.42
    12 62.3% Central_Greek + 37.7% Sardinian @ 10.57
    13 63.2% East_Sicilian + 36.8% Sardinian @ 10.57
    14 61.2% Sardinian + 38.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 10.69
    15 60.9% Sardinian + 39.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 10.71
    16 60.4% Sardinian + 39.6% Assyrian @ 10.82
    17 57.8% Sardinian + 42.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 10.91
    18 66.1% Algerian_Jewish + 33.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.92
    19 70.4% Algerian_Jewish + 29.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 10.94
    20 62.2% Cyprian + 37.8% French_Basque @ 10.97


    MDLP K23:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 41.30
    2 European_Early_Farmers 36.93
    3 Near_East 10.41
    4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 6.83
    5 North_African 1.40
    6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.00


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 11.591602
    2 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 14.374571
    3 Sicilian_Center_ @ 14.440105
    4 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 14.867946
    5 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 15.375524
    6 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 15.490746
    7 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 15.933818
    8 Sicilian_East_ @ 16.094414
    9 Greek_Islands_ @ 16.368547
    10 French_Jew_ @ 16.456194
    11 Maltese_ @ 16.591105
    12 Italian_South_ @ 16.945026
    13 Sicilian_West_ @ 17.337957
    14 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 17.406309
    15 Ashkenazi_ @ 17.425911
    16 Romanian_Jew_ @ 17.591333
    17 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 17.798391
    18 Italian_Jew_ @ 17.801155
    19 Greek_Athens_ @ 18.017862
    20 Greek_Phokaia_ @ 18.150244

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Sardinian_ +50% Turk_Trabzon_ @ 9.172322


    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 49.88
    2 West_Asia 20.72
    3 NE_Europe 15.71
    4 SW_Asia 13.69

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Abruzzo 10.48
    2 Italian_Sicilian 10.94
    3 Ashkenazy_Jew 11.93
    4 Sephardic_Jew 13.5
    5 Italian_Tuscan 14.01
    6 Greek_Central 14.24
    7 Greek_Thessaly 15.08
    8 Albanian 15.36
    9 Kosovar 16.42
    10 Italian_Bergamo 16.73
    11 Cypriot 20.39
    12 Macedonian 21.06
    13 Spaniard 21.24
    14 Bulgarian 21.34
    15 Montenegrin 24.34
    16 Romanian 24.49
    17 Turkish 25.04
    18 Serbian 26.29
    19 French_Basque 26.77
    20 Puerto_Rican 26.83

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.3% Cypriot + 42.7% French_Basque @ 6.17
    2 54.6% French_Basque + 45.4% Samaritan_Jew @ 8.02
    3 77.5% Italian_Sicilian + 22.5% French_Basque @ 8.04
    4 70.2% Sephardic_Jew + 29.8% French_Basque @ 8.08
    5 50.2% French_Basque + 49.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.21
    6 53.6% French_Basque + 46.4% Turkish_Trabzon @ 8.64
    7 51.1% French_Basque + 48.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 8.7
    8 52.1% French_Basque + 47.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 8.96
    9 51.2% Cypriot + 48.8% Spaniard @ 8.98
    10 55.2% French_Basque + 44.8% Assyrian @ 9.03
    11 76.6% Ashkenazy_Jew + 23.4% French_Basque @ 9.14
    12 54.6% French_Basque + 45.4% Armenian @ 9.24
    13 76.9% Italian_Sicilian + 23.1% Spaniard @ 9.32
    14 50.9% French_Basque + 49.1% Syrian @ 9.41
    15 56.7% Italian_Bergamo + 43.3% Cypriot @ 9.41
    16 71.6% Italian_Sicilian + 28.4% Italian_Bergamo @ 9.48
    17 59.3% Sephardic_Jew + 40.7% Italian_Bergamo @ 9.78
    18 67.1% Sephardic_Jew + 32.9% Spaniard @ 9.86
    19 88.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 11.2% French_Basque @ 10
    20 52.2% French_Basque + 47.8% Jordanian @ 10.06


    Near East Neolithic K13:

    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 37.36
    2 CHG_EEF 29.52
    3 NATUFIAN 13.73
    4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 10.07
    5 EHG 6.29
    6 SHG_WHG 2.41
    7 PAPUAN 0.49
    8 SE_ASIAN 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 16.17
    2 Sardinian 16.3
    3 Albanian 17.92
    4 Greek 18.36
    5 Italian_South 19.33
    6 Jew_Ashkenazi 19.91
    7 Jew_Moroccan 20.15
    8 Cypriot 21.74
    9 Jew_Tunisian 22.67
    10 Jew_Libyan 22.86
    11 Bulgarian 22.88
    12 Stuttgart 24.6
    13 Turkish 25.41
    14 Turkish_Istanbul 25.74
    15 Romanian 26
    16 Turkish_Balekesir 26.91
    17 Lebanese 27.89
    18 Turkish_Aydin 28.15
    19 Turkish_Adana 28.31
    20 Turkish_Kayseri 28.41

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.6% Sicilian + 20.4% Anatolia_N @ 3.92
    2 76% Jew_Ashkenazi + 24% Anatolia_N @ 4.7
    3 77.2% Sicilian + 22.8% Europe_EN @ 4.85
    4 76.6% Italian_South + 23.4% Anatolia_N @ 4.97
    5 61% Sicilian + 39% Stuttgart @ 5
    6 60.7% Stuttgart + 39.3% Chechen @ 5.18
    7 51.2% Stuttgart + 48.8% Turkish_Istanbul @ 5.35
    8 58.9% Stuttgart + 41.1% Kumyk @ 5.41
    9 73.2% Jew_Ashkenazi + 26.8% Europe_EN @ 5.42
    10 62% Stuttgart + 38% Lezgin @ 5.42
    11 55.6% Jew_Ashkenazi + 44.4% Stuttgart @ 5.63
    12 77.8% Greek + 22.2% Anatolia_N @ 5.76
    13 73.9% Italian_South + 26.1% Europe_EN @ 5.84
    14 59.4% Stuttgart + 40.6% Adygei @ 5.99
    15 53.7% Stuttgart + 46.3% Turkish_Adana @ 6.07
    16 50.9% Stuttgart + 49.1% Turkish @ 6.12
    17 53.8% Stuttgart + 46.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 6.55
    18 58.1% Greek + 41.9% Stuttgart @ 6.67
    19 78.6% Albanian + 21.4% Anatolia_N @ 6.69
    20 58% Stuttgart + 42% Balkar @ 6.7



    Crete_Armenoi (Dorian):

    This person is blatantly shifted toward Central Europe and even Spain.

    Dodecad K12b:
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 39.46
    2 North_European 30.59
    3 Caucasus 12.73
    4 Southwest_Asian 12.47
    5 Northwest_African 4.76

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Galicia (1000Genomes) 13.46
    2 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.29
    3 Portuguese (Dodecad) 14.51
    4 French (Dodecad) 14.92
    5 French (HGDP) 15
    6 Baleares (1000Genomes) 15.08
    7 North_Italian (HGDP) 15.24
    8 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 15.27
    9 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 16.56
    10 Murcia (1000Genomes) 16.65
    11 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 17.17
    12 Spanish (Dodecad) 17.61
    13 Spaniards (Behar) 17.87
    14 Canarias (1000Genomes) 18.19
    15 O_Italian (Dodecad) 18.84
    16 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.08
    17 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 19.2
    18 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 19.42
    19 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 20.04
    20 Valencia (1000Genomes) 20.49

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.4% French (HGDP) + 17.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 7.45
    2 71.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 28.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.11
    3 80.5% French (HGDP) + 19.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 8.14
    4 84.5% French (HGDP) + 15.5% Saudis (Behar) @ 8.2
    5 77.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 22.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.45
    6 72.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 27.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 8.5
    7 74.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 25.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 8.54
    8 71.2% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 28.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 8.68
    9 74.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 25.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 8.68
    10 79.7% French (HGDP) + 20.3% Egyptans (Behar) @ 8.75
    11 78.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 21.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 8.77
    12 76.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 23.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 8.78
    13 74.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 25.5% Russian (Dodecad) @ 8.79
    14 80.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 19.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 8.82
    15 60% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 40% Hungarians (Behar) @ 8.85
    16 75% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 25% Russian (HGDP) @ 8.87
    17 80.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 19.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 8.89
    18 77.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 22.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 8.93
    19 76.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 23.8% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.94
    20 67.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 32.2% Hungarians (Behar) @ 8.97


    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 37.39
    2 West_Med 26.65
    3 Red_Sea 15.32
    4 Baltic 12.89
    5 East_Med 4.03
    6 West_Asian 3.72

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Andalucia 21.19
    2 Southwest_French 21.41
    3 Spanish_Aragon 21.49
    4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 21.73
    5 Spanish_Valencia 22.33
    6 French_Basque 22.56
    7 Spanish_Cantabria 22.73
    8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.5
    9 Spanish_Extremadura 23.74
    10 Spanish_Murcia 24.31
    11 Spanish_Cataluna 25.32
    12 North_Italian 25.44
    13 Portuguese 25.53
    14 Spanish_Galicia 26.35
    15 Tuscan 27.76
    16 Sardinian 30.74
    17 West_Sicilian 30.84
    18 French 31.06
    19 Bulgarian 31.22
    20 Greek 31.37

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79% French_Basque + 21% Saudi @ 17.89
    2 69.5% French_Basque + 30.5% Moroccan @ 18.07
    3 69.2% French_Basque + 30.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 18.24
    4 70.1% French_Basque + 29.9% Tunisian @ 18.33
    5 77.5% French_Basque + 22.5% Bedouin @ 18.63
    6 71.9% French_Basque + 28.1% Algerian @ 18.78
    7 82.2% French_Basque + 17.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 19.06
    8 78.6% French_Basque + 21.4% Egyptian @ 19.11
    9 78.8% French_Basque + 21.2% Syrian @ 19.38
    10 79.9% French_Basque + 20.1% Samaritan @ 19.44
    11 80.2% French_Basque + 19.8% Palestinian @ 19.53
    12 80% French_Basque + 20% Jordanian @ 19.54
    13 75.4% French_Basque + 24.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 19.54
    14 73.2% French_Basque + 26.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 19.56
    15 78.6% French_Basque + 21.4% Cyprian @ 19.73
    16 74.1% French_Basque + 25.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 19.74
    17 80% French_Basque + 20% Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.8
    18 81.7% French_Basque + 18.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 19.82
    19 78.2% Southwest_French + 21.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 19.84
    20 71.6% French_Basque + 28.4% East_Sicilian @ 19.85


    MDLP K23:
    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 62.78
    2 Caucasian 28.35
    3 Subsaharian 3.90
    4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.27
    5 South_Indian 1.70


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sardinian_ @ 12.913033
    2 French_South_ @ 25.509447
    3 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 25.616949
    4 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 25.803423
    5 Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 25.818460
    6 Spanish_Aragon_IBS_ @ 25.851233
    7 Spanish_Cantabria_IBS_ @ 26.338671
    8 Spanish_Murcia_IBS_ @ 27.284054
    9 Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS_ @ 27.653255
    10 Spanish_Baleares_IBS_ @ 28.700075
    11 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS_ @ 28.804966
    12 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 29.473316
    13 Spaniard_ @ 29.611275
    14 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS_ @ 29.777987
    15 Basque_Spanish_ @ 30.079611
    16 Spanish_Galicia_IBS_ @ 30.143637
    17 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 30.658312
    18 Basque_French_ @ 31.080996
    19 Portugese_ @ 33.509251
    20 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 33.590324

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Sardinian_ +50% Sardinian_ @ 12.913033


    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 39.86
    2 SW_Europe 34.41
    3 SW_Asia 20.58
    4 West_Asia 5.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 French 15.97
    2 Bosnian 16.11
    3 Croatian 16.13
    4 Serbian 16.47
    5 Moldavian 16.74
    6 Belgian 16.84
    7 Montenegrin 16.92
    8 Slovene 16.94
    9 Spaniard 17.01
    10 Macedonian 17.11
    11 Romanian 17.15
    12 Hungarian 17.23
    13 Slovak 18.12
    14 Bulgarian 18.17
    15 German_South 18.35
    16 English 18.61
    17 Utahn_European 19.12
    18 Italian_Bergamo 19.15
    19 Orcadian 20.02
    20 Italian_Tuscan 20.07

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.7% Belgian + 20.3% Bedouin @ 9.35
    2 76.9% Utahn_European + 23.1% Bedouin @ 9.64
    3 63.1% Swedish + 36.9% Saharawi @ 9.66
    4 67.6% German_North + 32.4% Saharawi @ 9.88
    5 61.9% Belarusian + 38.1% Saharawi @ 9.96
    6 66.1% Ukrainian + 33.9% Saharawi @ 10.07
    7 81.6% French + 18.4% Bedouin @ 10.08
    8 64.1% Norwegian + 35.9% Saharawi @ 10.11
    9 73.5% Slovene + 26.5% Saharawi @ 10.22
    10 63.4% Swedish + 36.6% Mozabite @ 10.22
    11 62.2% Belarusian + 37.8% Mozabite @ 10.24
    12 69.9% Utahn_European + 30.1% Saharawi @ 10.27
    13 78% English + 22% Bedouin @ 10.28
    14 79.4% Belgian + 20.6% Saudi @ 10.29
    15 58.2% Polish + 41.8% Saharawi @ 10.29
    16 71.5% Slovak + 28.5% Saharawi @ 10.3
    17 58.4% Polish + 41.6% Mozabite @ 10.4
    18 76.3% Utahn_European + 23.7% Saudi @ 10.45
    19 68.1% German_North + 31.9% Mozabite @ 10.5
    20 76.3% Orcadian + 23.7% Bedouin @ 10.5


    Near East Neolithic K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 36.93
    2 EHG 31.58
    3 CHG_EEF 28.13
    4 SHG_WHG 3.35

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Europe_LNBA 23.89
    2 Bulgarian 30.45
    3 Albanian 30.8
    4 French 31.57
    5 Romanian 31.98
    6 Steppe_MLBA 32.7
    7 Sardinian 32.91
    8 Greek 33.38
    9 Croatian 33.68
    10 Hungarian 34.49
    11 Sicilian 34.57
    12 English 34.84
    13 Czech 36.58
    14 Scottish 37.11
    15 Norwegian 37.34
    16 Ukrainian 37.36
    17 Stuttgart 37.59
    18 Steppe_IA 37.6
    19 Icelandic 37.75
    20 Italian_South 37.97

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.3% Steppe_MLBA + 32.7% Anatolia_N @ 7.14
    2 64.1% Steppe_MLBA + 35.9% Europe_EN @ 8.14
    3 75.2% Europe_LNBA + 24.8% Anatolia_N @ 10.51
    4 53.9% Steppe_MLBA + 46.1% Stuttgart @ 10.89
    5 71.1% Sardinian + 28.9% EHG @ 11.54
    6 70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Steppe_EMBA @ 11.86
    7 73% Europe_LNBA + 27% Europe_EN @ 12
    8 68.1% Stuttgart + 31.9% EHG @ 12.2
    9 67.1% Stuttgart + 32.9% Steppe_EMBA @ 12.24
    10 65.2% Stuttgart + 34.8% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 13.23
    11 65.3% Europe_LNBA + 34.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 13.82
    12 64.7% Europe_LNBA + 35.3% Stuttgart @ 14.55
    13 69% Sardinian + 31% Steppe_Eneolithic @ 14.79
    14 62.4% Steppe_MLBA + 37.6% Europe_MNChL @ 14.84
    15 60.9% Stuttgart + 39.1% MA1 @ 16.28
    16 55.7% Steppe_MLBA + 44.3% Anatolia_ChL @ 16.6
    17 73.8% Europe_LNBA + 26.2% Europe_MNChL @ 16.91
    18 65.3% Sardinian + 34.7% MA1 @ 17.68
    19 51.5% Norwegian + 48.5% Anatolia_ChL @ 17.89
    20 51.1% Icelandic + 48.9% Anatolia_ChL @ 18.12

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    Mycenaean #2:

    Also like a Sardinian-shifted Sicilian with no Levantine affinity.

    Dodecad K12b:

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic_Med 50.74
    2 Caucasus 35.44
    3 Southwest_Asian 9.73
    4 North_European 4.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.18
    2 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.56
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.9
    4 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.49
    5 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.52
    6 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.61
    7 Sardinian (HGDP) 23.27
    8 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.9
    9 O_Italian (Dodecad) 24.43
    10 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.88
    11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.1
    12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 25.48
    13 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 25.89
    14 Greek (Dodecad) 26.09
    15 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 26.15
    16 Baleares (1000Genomes) 26.51
    17 Murcia (1000Genomes) 27.07
    18 Canarias (1000Genomes) 28.46
    19 Galicia (1000Genomes) 29.06
    20 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 29.27

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 41.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.63
    2 67.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.9% Armenians (Behar) @ 6.27
    3 66.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 33.5% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 6.69
    4 53.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 46.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 6.78
    5 64.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 35.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 6.84
    6 52.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 47.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 6.95
    7 67.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 6.97
    8 52.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.08
    9 73.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 26.7% Georgians (Behar) @ 7.09
    10 72.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 27.2% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 7.14
    11 67.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.5% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 7.17
    12 52.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 7.22
    13 63.4% Sardinian (HGDP) + 36.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 7.25
    14 51.9% Sardinian (HGDP) + 48.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 7.56
    15 67.1% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.9% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 7.7
    16 67.3% Sardinian (HGDP) + 32.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 7.84
    17 65.2% Sardinian (HGDP) + 34.8% Turks (Behar) @ 7.87
    18 71.5% Sardinian (HGDP) + 28.5% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 8.16
    19 67% Sardinian (HGDP) + 33% Samaritians (Behar) @ 8.17
    20 71.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 28.2% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 8.25


    Eurogenes K15:
    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 37.54
    2 East_Med 34.16
    3 Atlantic 15.99
    4 North_Sea 6.05
    5 West_Asian 4.28
    6 Red_Sea 1.98

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sardinian 18.08
    2 Algerian_Jewish 19.47
    3 Italian_Jewish 20.47
    4 West_Sicilian 20.98
    5 South_Italian 21.09
    6 Sephardic_Jewish 22.34
    7 Tuscan 22.68
    8 East_Sicilian 22.78
    9 Central_Greek 23.3
    10 Tunisian_Jewish 24.07
    11 Italian_Abruzzo 24.12
    12 Libyan_Jewish 24.21
    13 Greek 24.86
    14 North_Italian 25.15
    15 Ashkenazi 25.33
    16 Greek_Thessaly 25.68
    17 Cyprian 26.3
    18 Tunisian 27.59
    19 Algerian 28.17
    20 Spanish_Andalucia 28.53

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 67.3% Sardinian + 32.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 7.08
    2 66.3% Sardinian + 33.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.91
    3 64.9% Sardinian + 35.1% Samaritan @ 8.27
    4 61% Sardinian + 39% Cyprian @ 8.74
    5 58.9% Sardinian + 41.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 9
    6 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% Palestinian @ 9.04
    7 52.4% Sardinian + 47.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 9.04
    8 58.9% Sardinian + 41.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 9.27
    9 70.5% Sardinian + 29.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 9.37
    10 54.1% Sardinian + 45.9% Italian_Jewish @ 9.46
    11 67.1% Sardinian + 32.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.71
    12 71.2% Sardinian + 28.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 9.76
    13 74.1% Sardinian + 25.9% Yemenite_Jewish @ 9.76
    14 68.5% Sardinian + 31.5% Jordanian @ 9.83
    15 57% Sardinian + 43% Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.99
    16 67.9% Sardinian + 32.1% Syrian @ 10.3
    17 71.4% Sardinian + 28.6% Assyrian @ 10.42
    18 55.6% Sardinian + 44.4% South_Italian @ 11.06
    19 71% Sardinian + 29% Bedouin @ 11.27
    20 70.6% Sardinian + 29.4% Egyptian @ 11.46


    MDLP K23:

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Early_Farmers 50.14
    2 Caucasian 33.82
    3 Near_East 10.56
    4 North_African 4.27
    5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 1.21


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sardinian_ @ 23.124319
    2 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 23.392080
    3 Italian_Bergamo_ @ 23.789343
    4 Italian_Piedmont_ @ 23.827660
    5 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 24.052965
    6 Spanish_Baleares_IBS_ @ 24.142870
    7 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 24.774170
    8 Spanish_Murcia_IBS_ @ 24.793669
    9 Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 26.318392
    10 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 26.354795
    11 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 26.784592
    12 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS_ @ 26.920662
    13 Spaniard_ @ 27.251116
    14 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 27.331871
    15 Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 27.408665
    16 Maltese_ @ 27.509588
    17 Spanish_Aragon_IBS_ @ 27.524635
    18 Spanish_Cataluna_IBS_ @ 27.809519
    19 Spanish_Galicia_IBS_ @ 28.011581
    20 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 28.085047

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek_Islands_ +50% Sardinian_ @ 7.550715


    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 63.32
    2 West_Asia 12.82
    3 NE_Europe 12.4
    4 SW_Asia 11.46

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Bergamo 24.65
    2 Italian_Abruzzo 24.83
    3 Italian_Tuscan 25.47
    4 Italian_Sicilian 25.57
    5 Spaniard 25.97
    6 French_Basque 26.05
    7 Ashkenazy_Jew 26.73
    8 Sephardic_Jew 27.44
    9 Albanian 27.97
    10 Greek_Thessaly 28.01
    11 Greek_Central 28.73
    12 Kosovar 28.79
    13 Macedonian 31.97
    14 Bulgarian 32.65
    15 Puerto_Rican 32.72
    16 Cypriot 33.15
    17 Montenegrin 35.2
    18 French 35.31
    19 Tunisian 35.86
    20 Romanian 35.87

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 60.2% French_Basque + 39.8% Cypriot @ 18.71
    2 68.5% French_Basque + 31.5% Samaritan_Jew @ 19.12
    3 52.8% French_Basque + 47.2% Sephardic_Jew @ 19.62
    4 51.1% Italian_Sicilian + 48.9% French_Basque @ 19.86
    5 67.1% French_Basque + 32.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 19.9
    6 69.2% French_Basque + 30.8% Turkish_Trabzon @ 19.93
    7 70.9% French_Basque + 29.1% Egyptian_Copts @ 20.22
    8 68.4% French_Basque + 31.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 20.28
    9 69.2% French_Basque + 30.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 20.41
    10 69% French_Basque + 31% Jordanian @ 20.49
    11 68.7% French_Basque + 31.3% Syrian @ 20.59
    12 71.7% French_Basque + 28.3% Assyrian @ 20.64
    13 51.7% French_Basque + 48.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 20.66
    14 71.5% French_Basque + 28.5% Armenian @ 20.72
    15 71% French_Basque + 29% Palestinian @ 20.76
    16 66.5% French_Basque + 33.5% Mozabite @ 20.82
    17 65.3% French_Basque + 34.7% Tunisian @ 20.98
    18 68% French_Basque + 32% Moroccan @ 20.99
    19 72.4% French_Basque + 27.6% Egyptian @ 21.06
    20 54% Italian_Abruzzo + 46% French_Basque @ 21.23


    Near East Neolithic K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 50.88
    2 CHG_EEF 23.18
    3 NATUFIAN 10.01
    4 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 8.08
    5 SHG_WHG 4.76
    6 EHG 3.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Stuttgart 11.8
    2 Sardinian 18.17
    3 Anatolia_ChL 29.07
    4 Sicilian 30.21
    5 Albanian 31.16
    6 Europe_MNChL 31.43
    7 Greek 31.84
    8 Jew_Moroccan 32.74
    9 Italian_South 33.08
    10 Jew_Ashkenazi 33.89
    11 Cypriot 34.03
    12 Jew_Libyan 34.52
    13 Jew_Tunisian 34.68
    14 Bulgarian 35.3
    15 Europe_EN 37.68
    16 Turkish 38.08
    17 Romanian 38.17
    18 Armenia_ChL 38.27
    19 Turkish_Istanbul 38.86
    20 Turkish_Balekesir 38.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.3% Italian_South + 46.7% Europe_EN @ 2.46
    2 58.7% Italian_South + 41.3% Anatolia_N @ 2.57
    3 55.5% Sicilian + 44.5% Europe_EN @ 2.65
    4 52.7% Jew_Ashkenazi + 47.3% Europe_EN @ 2.71
    5 60.9% Sicilian + 39.1% Anatolia_N @ 2.86
    6 81.4% Stuttgart + 18.6% Iranian_Lori @ 2.94
    7 81.7% Stuttgart + 18.3% Kurd_C @ 2.97
    8 59.6% Greek + 40.4% Anatolia_N @ 3.07
    9 81.1% Stuttgart + 18.9% Iranian @ 3.14
    10 83.2% Stuttgart + 16.8% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 3.21
    11 80.3% Stuttgart + 19.7% Armenia_MLBA @ 3.24
    12 81.8% Stuttgart + 18.2% Iranian_Shirazi @ 3.33
    13 83.6% Stuttgart + 16.4% Iranian_Bandari @ 3.34
    14 58.1% Jew_Ashkenazi + 41.9% Anatolia_N @ 3.37
    15 80.1% Stuttgart + 19.9% Azeri @ 3.55
    16 79.8% Stuttgart + 20.2% Assyrian @ 3.73
    17 85.3% Stuttgart + 14.7% Makrani @ 3.74
    18 82.8% Stuttgart + 17.2% Iran_recent @ 3.83
    19 80.1% Stuttgart + 19.9% Jew_Iranian @ 3.98
    20 85.7% Stuttgart + 14.3% Brahui @ 3.99

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    Crete Armenoi isn't a Dorian sample but a low quality result and suffer from calculator effect. Even the authors cited it's origins are uncertain and can't be representative due it's low quality.

    Better quality Mycenaean sample posted by user Lukas. Eurogenes Eutest

    Kit Num: M209270
    Threshold of components set to 1.000
    Threshold of method set to 0.25%
    Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 49.72
    2 Atlantic_Med 36.41
    3 Southwest_Asian 8.35
    4 North_European 5.44


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.493803
    2 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 17.641636
    3 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 18.691545
    4 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 18.877573
    5 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.157095
    6 Cypriots_Behar @ 19.453815
    7 Greek_Dodecad @ 21.314806
    8 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 21.817043
    9 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 22.931799
    10 Tuscan_HGDP @ 23.919847
    11 TSI30_Metspalu @ 25.855457
    12 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 27.667242
    13 Turkish_Dodecad @ 27.710814
    14 Druze_HGDP @ 29.966885
    15 Turks_Behar @ 31.036406
    16 Armenian_Dodecad @ 32.201988
    17 Lebanese_Behar @ 32.453705
    18 Armenians_Behar @ 32.558994
    19 North_Italian_HGDP @ 32.832134
    20 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 33.481945

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Georgians_Behar +50% Sardinian_HGDP @ 10.433455


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Georgians_Behar +25% Sardinian_HGDP +25% Sardinian_HGDP @ 10.433455
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    looks really Sicilian /western jewish ))))))))))))

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    the Mycenaean i9014
    looks really Sicilian /western jewish ))))))))))))
    It doesn't when you look at its components. Yes, it is closer to them than to anyone else BUT they have a significant shift toward Sardinia/Basques and the West Med. Sicilians and Ashkenazim have a much greater Levantine affinity than the Mycenaeans did.

    Here is the sample posted above, for another one:

    Dodecad:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 49.72
    2 Atlantic_Med 36.41
    3 Southwest_Asian 8.35
    4 North_European 5.44
    5 Gedrosia 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.8
    2 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.94
    3 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 17.11
    4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.25
    5 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.54
    6 Cypriots (Behar) 18.17
    7 Greek (Dodecad) 19.38
    8 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.57
    9 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 20.89
    10 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.45
    11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 23.18
    12 O_Italian (Dodecad) 24.88
    13 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.8
    14 Druze (HGDP) 28
    15 Turks (Behar) 28.89
    16 North_Italian (HGDP) 29.46
    17 Armenian (Dodecad) 29.84
    18 N_Italian (Dodecad) 30.04
    19 Armenians (Behar) 30.1
    20 Lebanese (Behar) 30.24

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 51.6% Sardinian (HGDP) + 48.4% Georgians (Behar) @ 9.53
    2 50.8% Sardinian (HGDP) + 49.2% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 10.2
    3 58.6% Armenians (Behar) + 41.4% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 10.41
    4 73% Cypriots (Behar) + 27% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 10.59
    5 59.2% Armenian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 12.34
    6 57.7% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 42.3% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 12.86
    7 82% Cypriots (Behar) + 18% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 13.27
    8 58% Cypriots (Behar) + 42% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 13.66
    9 82.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 17.8% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 13.88
    10 69% Cypriots (Behar) + 31% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 13.92
    11 61.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 38.6% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 13.95
    12 50.9% Balkars (Yunusbayev) + 49.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 14
    13 78% Cypriots (Behar) + 22% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 14.02
    14 75.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 24.1% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 14.03
    15 78.4% Cypriots (Behar) + 21.6% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 14.07
    16 64.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 14.09
    17 50.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) + 49.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 14.16
    18 54.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 45.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 14.17
    19 78.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 21.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 14.22
    20 51.1% Adygei (HGDP) + 48.9% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 14.24


    Eurogenes:
    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 31.52
    2 East_Med 29.71
    3 West_Asian 17.19
    4 Atlantic 12.83
    5 North_Sea 7.5
    6 Red_Sea 1.26
    7 Baltic 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 South_Italian 13.61
    2 Italian_Jewish 15.48
    3 Central_Greek 15.49
    4 East_Sicilian 15.62
    5 Algerian_Jewish 15.68
    6 West_Sicilian 16.16
    7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.86
    8 Sephardic_Jewish 17.06
    9 Tuscan 18.08
    10 Ashkenazi 18.86
    11 Greek 18.94
    12 Cyprian 19.49
    13 Greek_Thessaly 19.52
    14 Tunisian_Jewish 19.81
    15 Libyan_Jewish 20.41
    16 North_Italian 22.27
    17 Sardinian 24.25
    18 Lebanese_Muslim 25.11
    19 Turkish 25.95
    20 Samaritan 26.24

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.8% Sardinian + 45.2% Armenian @ 5.57
    2 54.6% Sardinian + 45.4% Assyrian @ 6.23
    3 55.8% Sardinian + 44.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.42
    4 55.9% Sardinian + 44.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 7.15
    5 56.6% Sardinian + 43.4% Iranian_Jewish @ 7.8
    6 56.3% Cyprian + 43.7% Sardinian @ 8.03
    7 58.3% Sardinian + 41.7% Kurdish @ 8.31
    8 51% Sardinian + 49% Lebanese_Muslim @ 8.51
    9 51.9% Sardinian + 48.1% Turkish @ 8.8
    10 55.8% Sardinian + 44.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.02
    11 56.6% Sardinian + 43.4% Azeri @ 9.11
    12 53.6% Sardinian + 46.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 9.29
    13 59.9% Sardinian + 40.1% Iranian @ 9.3
    14 69.3% South_Italian + 30.7% Sardinian @ 9.35
    15 52.4% Sardinian + 47.6% Syrian @ 10.03
    16 65.5% Italian_Jewish + 34.5% Sardinian @ 10.25
    17 52.4% Sardinian + 47.6% Samaritan @ 10.56
    18 65.9% Central_Greek + 34.1% Sardinian @ 10.65
    19 62.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 37.9% Sardinian @ 10.7
    20 65% Sardinian + 35% Georgian @ 10.92


    MDLP K23b:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 42.82
    2 European_Early_Farmers 34.67
    3 Near_East 10.33
    4 South_Central_Asian 4.72
    5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 3.15
    6 North_African 2.79


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Italian_Abruzzo_ @ 12.733258
    2 Greek_Islands_ @ 13.449302
    3 Sicilian_Center_ @ 14.057055
    4 French_Jew_ @ 14.155670
    5 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 14.247169
    6 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 14.669058
    7 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 14.670536
    8 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 15.012328
    9 Sicilian_East_ @ 15.038549
    10 Italian_Jew_ @ 15.360608
    11 Maltese_ @ 15.728017
    12 Italian_South_ @ 15.999681
    13 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 16.017542
    14 Turk_Jew_ @ 16.444818
    15 Sicilian_West_ @ 16.628698
    16 Romanian_Jew_ @ 16.907684
    17 Italian_Tuscan_ @ 16.935463
    18 Cretan_ @ 17.204229
    19 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 17.277605
    20 Ashkenazi_ @ 17.347597

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Sardinian_ +50% Turk_Trabzon_ @ 6.301075


    PuntDNA-L K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 54.15
    2 West_Asia 23.2
    3 SW_Asia 12.07
    4 NE_Europe 9.74
    5 Americas 0.7
    6 Oceania 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Sicilian 15.61
    2 Italian_Abruzzo 16.84
    3 Ashkenazy_Jew 16.93
    4 Sephardic_Jew 17.46
    5 Greek_Central 19.98
    6 Italian_Tuscan 20.82
    7 Cypriot 21.16
    8 Greek_Thessaly 21.56
    9 Albanian 21.97
    10 Kosovar 22.97
    11 Italian_Bergamo 23.14
    12 Spaniard 27.44
    13 Turkish 27.61
    14 Macedonian 27.78
    15 Bulgarian 27.94
    16 Lebanese_Christian 28.04
    17 Turkish_Kayseri 28.79
    18 Lebanese_Druze 28.97
    19 Syrian 29.09
    20 Turkish_Trabzon 29.76

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63% Cypriot + 37% French_Basque @ 12.82
    2 51.7% Turkish_Trabzon + 48.3% French_Basque @ 13.79
    3 84.1% Italian_Sicilian + 15.9% French_Basque @ 14.71
    4 50.9% French_Basque + 49.1% Samaritan_Jew @ 14.98
    5 75.8% Sephardic_Jew + 24.2% French_Basque @ 15.08
    6 53.8% Lebanese_Christian + 46.2% French_Basque @ 15.12
    7 60.8% Cypriot + 39.2% Spaniard @ 15.2
    8 54.3% Cypriot + 45.7% Italian_Bergamo @ 15.33
    9 50.6% French_Basque + 49.4% Armenian @ 15.37
    10 51.4% French_Basque + 48.6% Assyrian @ 15.41
    11 91.3% Italian_Sicilian + 8.7% Spaniard @ 15.46
    12 89.4% Italian_Sicilian + 10.6% Italian_Bergamo @ 15.48
    13 52.7% Lebanese_Druze + 47.3% French_Basque @ 15.51
    14 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Abkhasian @ 15.61
    15 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Adygei @ 15.61
    16 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 15.61
    17 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 15.61
    18 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 15.61
    19 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% African_American @ 15.61
    20 100% Italian_Sicilian + 0% Albanian @ 15.61


    Near East Neolithic K13:
    # Population Percent
    1 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 35.58
    2 CHG_EEF 26.99
    3 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 16.77
    4 NATUFIAN 11.53
    5 EHG 6.01
    6 SHG_WHG 1.82
    7 KARITIANA 1.25
    8 POLAR 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sicilian 16.31
    2 Greek 18.39
    3 Cypriot 18.72
    4 Albanian 18.94
    5 Jew_Moroccan 18.96
    6 Italian_South 19.4
    7 Jew_Ashkenazi 19.75
    8 Sardinian 21.62
    9 Turkish 22.1
    10 Jew_Tunisian 22.18
    11 Turkish_Istanbul 22.54
    12 Jew_Libyan 22.57
    13 Turkish_Balekesir 23.42
    14 Bulgarian 24.02
    15 Turkish_Kayseri 24.04
    16 Turkish_Adana 24.27
    17 Turkish_Aydin 24.59
    18 Lebanese 24.77
    19 Turkish_Trabzon 24.95
    20 Armenian 27.51

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.2% Italian_South + 36.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.58
    2 53.6% Stuttgart + 46.4% Abkhasian @ 4.82
    3 50.4% Stuttgart + 49.6% Azeri @ 4.83
    4 55.5% Stuttgart + 44.5% Lezgin @ 4.89
    5 54.2% Stuttgart + 45.8% Chechen @ 4.98
    6 52% Stuttgart + 48% Kumyk @ 5.02
    7 52.4% Stuttgart + 47.6% Georgian @ 5.15
    8 52.4% Stuttgart + 47.6% Adygei @ 5.32
    9 54.4% Turkish_Kayseri + 45.6% Stuttgart @ 5.53
    10 50.9% Armenian + 49.1% Stuttgart @ 5.55
    11 74% Turkish_Istanbul + 26% Anatolia_N @ 5.61
    12 54.6% Stuttgart + 45.4% Iranian_Lori @ 5.66
    13 53.7% Stuttgart + 46.3% Iranian @ 5.69
    14 54.2% Turkish_Adana + 45.8% Stuttgart @ 5.76
    15 53.5% Turkish_Trabzon + 46.5% Stuttgart @ 5.78
    16 50.6% Stuttgart + 49.4% Balkar @ 5.89
    17 58.8% Stuttgart + 41.2% Iranian_Mazandarani @ 6.11
    18 71.2% Turkish_Istanbul + 28.8% Europe_EN @ 6.23
    19 55.4% Stuttgart + 44.6% Iranian_Shirazi @ 6.23
    20 68.2% Sicilian + 31.8% Anatolia_ChL @ 6.51

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    ok it is logical to assume they would have more west- med elments ,
    still there Ehg and whg values in near east k13 is very much a like sicilians and western jews
    in eurogenes k13 the i0914 individual
    in 2 populations oracle mixture in eurogenes k13
    70% overlapp with sicilian and aschenazi
    the "white civilization " it is a good day in populations genetics ......


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    ok i was wrong they have west med elment that west jews lack{ but there stepp admixture value is like me in mdlpk16 for example and they whg and ehg are the same like western jews and sicilians }
    Using 4 populations approximation:
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    1 French_Basque + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 8.293722
    2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 8.329458
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    I believe at some point the Proto Greek and Armenian brach shared a common origin as both modern Greeks and Armenians carry high amounts of R1b L23 that likely came from the same Indo-European groups that once conquered both regions. The L23 also seems common in modern Assyrians and some other regions of ME as well as the Southern Balkan and parts of Southern Italy that once been called Magna Graecia.
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    My guess is Sicilians could have once been Mycenaean-like, but then when they acquired more Levantine admixture from Phoenicians, Carthaginians, and then the Arab conquest, it reduced their West Med elements. What do others think of this idea?

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