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Thread: Compare your Livingdna YDNA haplogroup with 23andme, Ftdna, and Geno 2.0.

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    23andme as the fairly basic I-M253 on v4.
    LivingDNA I-Z2535. Not wrong, but a little short of what they told me their coverage was to at I-L338. They said that there was an inconclusive call for I-L338 when running my DNA through their chip.

    Is there a list of what new SNPs are covered under 23andme v5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    Is there a list of what new SNPs are covered under 23andme v5?
    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...-v5-Y-DNA-SNPs

    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    23andme as the fairly basic I-M253 on v4.
    LivingDNA I-Z2535. Not wrong, but a little short of what they told me their coverage was to at I-L338. They said that there was an inconclusive call for I-L338 when running my DNA through their chip.
    23andme v5 also has I-Z2535. The only SNP downstream from I-Z2535 in 23andme v5 is S1954/YSC0000261. Since LivingDNA uses the same chip that is probably also the case with LivingDNA.
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 08-22-2017 at 11:31 PM.

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    FTDNA P312 SNP Pack: R-Z17112
    FTDNA Big Y: Subclade below Z17112; FTDNA DF19 volunteer Group Admins analyzed for free. There are three families on our branch. 2 have MDKA within ~10 miles of each other NW of Wiesbaden and Frankfurt; one has MDKA down (up?) the Rhine in Strasbourg. None of us match the others in FTDNA's STR tests at any level out to Y111, so it's been probably at least 1,000 years since the last family reunion.

    Living DNA: DF19 plus a misleading map
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    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    23andme v5 has DF88. It's i706061. It also has DF19 rs753249165

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    E1b1b, E1b1a, J1, and J2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    The differences between each will depend a lot on the haplogroup and subclade that each person is in. 23andme v2-v4 used an extremely limited list of SNPs in their test. Geno 2.0 used a larger number of SNPs but still a limited list and when the results are transferred to FTDNA there isn't a list of negative SNPs. There is a csv file with results that can then be compared with databases of SNPs but you have to know how to do that. LivingDNA in some cases includes more SNPs than 23andme v2-v4 and Geno 2.0 but not always ant they do not provide a list of all positive and all negative SNPs. You can email them then get a list of negative SNPs below your subclade but that is it. 23andme v5 is similar to Geno 2.0 and LivingDNA in the SNPs included but still differs in certain SNPs. 23andme v5 includes a list of positive and negatives SNPs in the raw data.

    FTDNA has SNP packs which are cheaper than BigY and in most cases include a lot more SNPs than LivingDNA, Geno 2.0, and any of the versions of 23andme. So although LivingDNA, Geno 2.0, or 23andme v5 are similar and less expensive than an STR test + SNP packs at FTDNA they aren't anywhere as good as FTDNA SNP packs.

    FTDNA BigY is a lot more expensive than a couple of FTDNA packs but BigY tests for novel and private SNPs. None of the other tests mentioned can do that.

    Maybe if you told us which haplogroup and subclade you are interested in we can give you a more informative list of possible results from each of the tests that you are inquiring about.
    E1b1b, E1b1a, J1, and J2.

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    So when will I get the option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlazedNugguts View Post
    So when will I get the option?
    23andme said that they do not know.
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 08-24-2017 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedBlazedNugguts View Post
    E1b1b, E1b1a, J1, and J2.
    The cheapest and fastest option for those with better coverage than Livingdna, 23andme, Ftdna, and Geno 2.0 are the $99 Yseq Panel tests at https://www.yseq.net/index.php?cPath=27

    For E1b1b and E1b1a the E Superclade Panel

    For J1 the J1-M267 Superclade Panel

    For J2 the J2-M172 Superclade Panel

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    FTDNA gave me I-M253 after a 67 marker test.
    LDNA gave me I-S2169 aka I-F2642
    My Big Y results split the I-L234 branch forming a new branch that FTDNA calls I-Y7198 and YFull calls I-Y3647

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3649/

    So LDNA's call was pretty far up stream from where I actually am but it was about what I was expecting from them.

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