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    Quote Originally Posted by FaerieQueene View Post
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    Middle Eastern 69%
    West Middle East 48% (Levant)
    Asia Minor 17% (Turkey/Armenia)
    East Middle East 4% (Arabia)
    Jewish Diaspora 27%
    Sephardic 27% (how?)
    European 3%
    Southeast Europe 3% (Italy/Greece/Balkans)
    Undetermined Region 1%
    I feel like I've seen this a number of times, and even a Palestinian getting 7% Ashkenazi with AncestryDNA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqv8S8yZuk8

    I think that the algorithms might just get confused by the Jewish ancestry being a mix of Levantine and Mediterranean European, especially since "Sephardi" is more difficult to pinpoint than Ashkenazi. Without it, I'm guessing he would get more "Southeast Europe."
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaerieQueene View Post
    My Dad's Eurogenes K36 Similarity Maps: Palestinian-Christian

    Lebanese-Christian: 80%
    Lebanese-Muslim: 75%
    Egyptian: 74%
    Cypriot: 73%
    Assyrian: 71%



    Mine. also I don't think the 80 and 75 are Lebanese Christian and Muslim, but Lebanese and Palestinian or North and South Levant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonahst View Post
    I feel like I've seen this a number of times, and even a Palestinian getting 7% Ashkenazi with AncestryDNA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqv8S8yZuk8

    I think that the algorithms might just get confused by the Jewish ancestry being a mix of Levantine and Mediterranean European, especially since "Sephardi" is more difficult to pinpoint than Ashkenazi. Without it, I'm guessing he would get more "Southeast Europe."
    I figured it was a common Levant affinity, but just wanted to make sure.

    Knowing the actual ethnic background of Ashkenazi and Sephardic people (not full Euro, but not full Levant), I don't think DNA tests should have AJ and SJ categories. It seems as useless as having 'mestizo' and 'mulatto' categories.

    My mix for example shows me as 'Ashkenazi' in Single Population Sharing on GEDmatch. Therefore my 23andme Ancestry Composition is a lot closer to the reality of AJ folks minus the AJ dna category.

    About some of the SJ in my Dad actually being Southeast European.....That would make a lot of sense, he shows a lot of Cypriot on GEDmatch, and even in Doug McDonald results years ago, (Cypriot being a mix of Greek/Levant).
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    mother's paternal grandmother's mtdna: U5b1b1
    paternal grandmother's mtdna: H13a2c1
    father's ydna: E-BY63615

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaerieQueene View Post
    I figured it was a common Levant affinity, but just wanted to make sure.

    Knowing the actual ethnic background of Ashkenazi and Sephardic people (not full Euro, but not full Levant), I don't think DNA tests should have AJ and SJ categories. It seems as useless as having 'mestizo' and 'mulatto' categories.

    My mix for example shows me as 'Ashkenazi' in Single Population Sharing on GEDmatch. Therefore my 23andme Ancestry Composition is a lot closer to the reality of AJ folks minus the AJ dna category.

    About some of the SJ in my Dad actually being Southeast European.....That would make a lot of sense, he shows a lot of Cypriot on GEDmatch, and even in Doug McDonald results years ago, (Cypriot being a mix of Greek/Levant).
    Couldn't agree more. I mean it would be nice if it were a sorta add-on, at least for Ashkenazi since it's so easy to detect. It's frustrating that we can't see what our breakdown is from the big companies. The only major company that offers it is Living DNA, which gives the most ridiculous results for most non-Western Europeans.

    I did regrettably test with TeloYears, which gave a regional breakdown plus detected if any grandparents were (Ashkenazi) Jewish. The results were decent enough, though not perfect, and included detailed Y and mtDNA analyses, but they basically just sent me a PDF and never provided login info for their online portal. All this for like $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingofPhoenicia001 View Post
    Mine. also I don't think the 80 and 75 are Lebanese Christian and Muslim, but Lebanese and Palestinian or North and South Levant.
    Interesting. That is just what I was told. Are you speculating that the Lebanese Christian and Lebanese Muslim population samples on K36 have Palestinian Christian and Palestinian Muslim mixed in, respectively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaerieQueene View Post
    Interesting. That is just what I was told. Are you speculating that the Lebanese Christian and Lebanese Muslim population samples on K36 have Palestinian Christian and Palestinian Muslim mixed in, respectively?
    No, I would hope not haha. Just confusing how it’s laid out. I think they would have more populations than Lebanese.
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    Just got back my FTDNA Origins:

    Middle Eastern 78%
    Asia Minor 53%
    East Middle East 7%
    North Africa 6%
    West Middle East 12%

    European 11%
    Southeast Europe < 2%
    West and Central Europe 11%

    Jewish Diaspora 8%
    Ashkenazi < 1%
    Sephardic

    Don't understand why I received Asia Minor instead of West ME but I guess it is common.
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    My Origins of Half Lebanese Christian and half Iraqi Christian.

    Middle Eastern 97%
    Asia Minor 72%
    West Middle East 22%
    East Middle East 3%

    Central Asia/South Asia
    Central Asia 2%

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    I think Asia Minor take Druze cluster, Center Syria to north, North Bekaa Lebanese and Assyrians.

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    My Dad half Lebanese Christian from Baalbek and Half Iraqi Christian from Mosul, here his EUROGENES k36 results. The results is compatible to half Iraqi Christian and Half Lebanese Christian ?


    Amerindian -
    Arabian 7.90
    Armenian 8.54
    Basque 0.43
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 3.18
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 20.03
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 0.56
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 26.90
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 0.14
    North_Caucasian 13.50
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 9.02
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 6.28
    West_Med 3.48

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