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    As for L238, let's not forget that there are 9 other SNPs that all L238 samples share, so any one of them might be between L238 and P312. The key is to get more samples.
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543, Pietro della Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard A. Rocca View Post
    The answer is yes, DF99 is on a separate branch from both L238 and DF19.
    Thanks. I just removed the cloud from behind DF99 and L238. DF99 now stands alone as a peer to the Big Three, DF19 and L238.
    http://tinyurl.com/R1b-P312-Tree

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    According to Rich Rocca's post today on the P312 in the Netherlands thread, DF99 was found in .8% of 500 samples in a study there. This works out to be just four. However that more than doubles the amount we knew about yesterday, which was only three. So now we know it is found in Britain, Italy, Peru (presumably from Spain?) and Holland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenHind View Post
    According to Rich Rocca's post today on the P312 in the Netherlands thread, DF99 was found in .8% of 500 samples in a study there. This works out to be just four. However that more than doubles the amount we knew about yesterday, which was only three. So now we know it is found in Britain, Italy, Peru (presumably from Spain?) and Holland.
    I know it is too early to call, but that distribution is similar to many of the DF27 clades.

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    I am hoping FTDNA offers DF99 soon, if not then I will be more than willing to give my money to whatever other company has the test for this SNP. Been a four year wait so far to be assigned beyond R-P312.
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    Primers for DF99 are now on order and should be available for order soon.
    Paternal: R1b-U152 >> L2 >> FGC10543, Pietro della Rocca, b. 1559, Agira, Sicily, Italy
    Maternal: H4a1-T152C!, Maria Coto, b. ~1864, Galicia, Spain
    Mother's Paternal: J1+ FGC4745/FGC4766+ PF5019+, Gerardo Caprio, b. 1879, Caposele, Avellino, Campania, Italy
    Father's Maternal: T2b-C150T, Francisca Santa Cruz, b.1916, Garganchon, Burgos, Spain
    Paternal Great (x3) Grandfather: R1b-U106 >> L48 >> CTS2509, Filippo Ensabella, b.~1836, Agira, Sicily, Italy

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    Great news : )_

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    I'm really hoping my upgrade to Y-67 is done by the time DF99 is finally released (results have already been delayed by 3 months). Not sure if having my sample tied up in that battery of tests would interfere with a DF99 order. Does anyone have any information about the origin of the Peruvian DF99+ individual? (whether or not they're paternal line is Spanish, Italian, German or other)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Telfermagne View Post
    Does anyone have any information about the origin of the Peruvian DF99+ individual? (whether or not they're paternal line is Spanish, Italian, German or other)
    "All four grandparents were born in Peru".

    http://ccr.coriell.org/Sections/Sear...02008&PgId=166


    47% of Peruvians are Mestizo, having a mixed native South American Indian and Colonial Spanish ancestry.
    http://internacional.universia.net/l.../poblacion.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestizo#Peru

    This is not to say that the paternal line of the Peruvan sample was ultimately Spanish, but I would say it's a good guess.

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    Seems like a safe guess, but exposes some problems with the 4 grandparent birthplace questions (something that has plagued resources like 23andMe). Doesn't do much help in trying to pinpoint MRCA's origin when the Old World components of New World populations are not identified.
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